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This is a user-made reproduction of a copyrighted image (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FFVII_Map.jpg) which the original author has not released to the public domain. Thus, the reproducer does not have the right to release it under GFDL. --69.138.161.186 23:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if re-drawing a fake map counts as a copyvio, really. -Nard 17:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- How is it fake? 69.138.161.186 22:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's a fantasy map I mean -Nard 01:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - What about that makes it not copyvio? The original author, Square Enix, came up with this idea and created an image, en:Image:FFVII Map.jpg, so the copyright still belongs to them. No matter how many times I redraw it, it doesn't change the fact that the original idea belongs to them and thus I don't have the right to release their work under GFDL. 70.108.29.215 13:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Information is not a subject of copyrights... Elektron 08:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- How is it not? It belongs to Square Enix who created the game which this image is from. 205.222.248.136 18:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I mean there are no copyrigths of information. You can only patented some technical information how to do sth. But it is a different matter... But afer that you still can write haw to do sth - you have no rigth only to produce it. The copyrigths are only for arts, books, films, etc. If there be copyrigths for information we wont't write for example Wikipedia because the most information didin't dicover or invent by wikipedists... Elektron 13:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes, but this is a trace of the original. It's like copy-and-pasting someone else's writing and changing a few words. It's still plagiarism. 69.138.161.186 19:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - The is no copyrights for information. We have our rights to be informed well. So, how do you imagin yourself be informed well about a very large place witout a real map? A map is naturally similar to other map. If is not it is only a false and disinfomative thing. You can't draw Europa in the shape of Asia... And there is no matter if it is a real land or not. Elektron 08:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        Yes, it does matter. The author created this information and thus he owns the copyright for it (a completely different concept from a patent). It didn't exist before he created it. All forms of creative expression, including maps of fictional places, belong to their authors unless they release it to public domain. 69.138.161.186 15:34, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We can do something like that for real maps, if the new map loose significant precision. Maybe it the same for fictional map? ~ bayo or talk 16:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- With a real map, no one invented the land mass it is depicting; it was there before. With a fictional map, it was conceived by the author so the copyright belongs to him. 69.138.161.186 19:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete According to Commons:Fan art, it is not allowed - "but you cannot "redraw" the map illustrations depicted in copies of The Lord of the Rings." --88.134.141.133 21:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not a policy. -Nard 01:52, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's not a policy; it's called copyright law. 69.138.161.186 15:30, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative of a copyright work, deleting. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]