File talk:Emblem of Vietnam.svg

 

Wrong

This image is still wrong like I talked in Image talk:Coat of arms of Vietnam.png, the cogwheel has 10 cogs, not 7 cogs like this, Vietnam is not China. Please consider changing it, otherwise vi.wikipedia will never use Vietnam COA images from Commons, and consult the source URL carefully. vi.wiki's members are using low-resolution jpg but correct version. Vinhtantran 00:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

As far as I can see, http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Việt_Nam is using the .png version from commons.--Avala 15:17, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The article was changed by IP in the end of 2007[1], since then, no one note that the logo has been changed. But Wikipedia is not the standard for a country, just take a look at:

• The National Assembly
• The Ministry of Foreign Affair

Please consider correcting it. Repaint must be the same, not simplify. Vinhtantran 07:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

The texts in the coat of arms are wrong also. The "hòa", "xã" and "nghĩa" are correct. But the "Công", "hôi "chu" and "VIET NAM" are wrong. --Củ Hành Tôn (talk) 08:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

How narrow-minded the creator of this picture is. He even didn't care about other users', especially Vietnamese, comments about his work. I wish I were expert in creating SVG to create a new CORRECT one. Vinhtantran (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

3-D star

I think User:Fry1989 needs to read this in English:

• Source: Drew based on "Q&A law documents on ceremonies, protocols, uniforms applied to national authority and company", Lao dong va xa hoi Publisher 2003, p. 12

Can you give another source for your reverting to non 3D star? Tân (talk) 02:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Request for Update

I request an update of this file. My updated version is this file(first uploaded version). I changed the colors a little bit. I used this image from the vietnamese government website as color reference. Furthermore i changed the code of the file and it's now SVG 1.1 compliant.--MS05L (talk) 16:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm going to  decline this request. The proposed new version appears to be identical to the current one, except for the shade of the yellow color. Given that this image was protected precisely to stop a prolonged edit war about the colors, I don't really feel like continuing the edit was by proxy. If other projects wish to use the version with a brighter shade of yellow, it should be uploaded under a different name so that both will remain available. (In any case, it seems to me that both shades are used even in official sources, as e.g. on this page, so there would seem to be no intrinsic reason to prefer one over the other.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:54, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed change

The file should be updated to this version, with a shadow/gradient to make it look less like a pencil sketch and more like a modern insignia.

 Oppose. We have several 3D effects files, but if the Government doesn't use it like that, we shouldn't make it look like that. Fry1989 ^eh? 06:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

More emblem proposals vectorization needed

It's time to vectorize rejected proposed emblem in Vietnam like these
https://img.nhandan.com.vn/Files/Images/2020/08/27/121bs-1598530598416.jpg
https://i1-vnexpress.vnecdn.net/2020/08/25/L1190400-1598331570.jpg?w=1200&h=0&q=100&dpr=1&fit=crop&s=zcDtEI01wxRv8mgrBRY08g
https://i1-vnexpress.vnecdn.net/2020/08/25/L1190399-1598331570.jpg?w=1200&h=0&q=100&dpr=1&fit=crop&s=7XgTv0vZUvriLfh-UqzaDg
https://i1-vnexpress.vnecdn.net/2020/08/25/L1190412-JPG.jpg?w=1200&h=0&q=100&dpr=1&fit=crop&s=MIy0RniiWJo1DuXqIisqAQ
https://i1-vnexpress.vnecdn.net/2020/08/25/L1190366-1598331568.jpg?w=1200&h=0&q=100&dpr=1&fit=crop&s=awVpP8qDlpdgen5Lkm9qlg
https://i1-vnexpress.vnecdn.net/2020/08/25/L1190365-1598332977.jpg?w=1200&h=0&q=100&dpr=1&fit=crop&s=l-9ZCUm3W9wMo-6oqJoc1Q
https://i2.wp.com/maskonline.vn/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/ae332cd0e25a157844f0cb07d62e6b022a36c34fb1737c994f94043ba6701e68.jpeg?resize=640%2C704
https://i0.wp.com/maskonline.vn/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Untitled-2.jpg?w=640 Baokhang48812002 (talk) 15:04, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Baokhang48812002: Họa sĩ Bùi Trang Chước mới qua đời năm 1992 thôi, bạn phải chờ đến hết năm 2042 thì các hình ảnh này mới thuộc PVCC Việt Nam, chứ đừng nói đến PVCC Hoa Kỳ. —  Băng Tỏa  15:33, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

cảm ơn, sao không upload lên với giấy phép Sử dụng hợp lý? Baokhang48812002 (talk) 01:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Nếu up lên theo license Fair Use thì việc sử dụng các bản mẫu quốc huy đó sẽ bị hạn chế kinh hoàng. Ở 1 khía cạnh nào đó, các mẫu quốc huy đấy chỉ được sử dụng ở đúng 1 bài viết thôi và nó sẽ không thích hợp để làm tư liệu rộng rãi, không bõ công để ngồi vẽ rồi sau đó không làm được gì. Nếu bạn có thời gian rảnh để tự vectorise hết đống đó rồi vứt lên Fair Use thì cũng chẳng ai nói gì, nhưng bạn cũng nên chú ý rằng bản thân một bài viết cũng không thể sử dụng quá nhiều ảnh Fair Use nhé. Fair Use không phải là cái chỗ để bạn biến nó thành cái kho ảnh không bản quyền chốn công cộng đâu nhé. Hwi.padam (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hwi.padam À vậy đó là lý do bạn ủng hộ hình này tồn tại ở Commons, để bạn được sử dụng tẹt ga, dù biết rõ nó không thuộc PVCC theo đúng quy định?  Băng Tỏa  23:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

File này được quyền tồn tại trên đây ở cái chỗ "không được ngăn chặn, cản trở việc phổ biến, sử dụng Quốc kỳ, Quốc huy, Quốc ca". Các bản của cụ Chước ở trên chưa bao giờ được duyệt là Quốc huy Việt Nam, nên nó không thuộc phạm vi được bảo vệ bởi điều trên. Ngoài ra, Bộ VH-TT-DL từng đề cập "Mẫu Quốc huy là một cống hiến chung của giới Mỹ thuật Cách mạng Việt Nam, trong đó phải kể đến công lao của họa sĩ Bùi Trang Chước - người đã vẽ những mẫu Quốc huy để làm cơ sở lựa chọn, hoàn thiện và họa sĩ Trần Văn Cẩn - người đã chỉnh sửa hoàn thiện mẫu Quốc huy theo ý kiến chỉ đạo của lãnh đạo để trình Quốc hội phê duyệt.", chưa có diễn giải nào theo hướng "bản quyền" của mẫu quốc huy trực tiếp thuộc về tác giả Chước. Đồng thời, Luật SHTT VN không có định nghĩa trực tiếp cho "miền công cộng", thực sự để khó để trả lời. Hwi.padam (talk) 00:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Monochrome version needed

Why don’t you upload the stamp version of the emblem of Vietnam, please, {{replyto|Sodacan}}?

Baokhang48812002 (talk) 06:02, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Colors should be brighter and matching with the National Flag of Vietnam?! (as well as some other minor changes requests)

Hi, according to the Emblem pictures used by the Vietnamese Governmental Agencies, I notice that the color is much brighter (than the current artwork) and much corresponds to the color used on the Flag of Vietnam

• The Vietnam Government Portal
• The Website of the Prime Minister of Vietnam
• Twitter of the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs
• Emblem extracted from the Vietnamese National Assembly website
  

I agree that some of the "physical" copies of the Emblem seem darker in real life but I believe that they are actually a result of the material used and/or weathering, and in theory, as well as when it is digitalized, the Emblem images should be in the same color with the State flag.

Besides that, I just find a detail that I believe that was illustrated inaccurately in the current version of Emblem used on the Commons.

The Emblem of Vietnam used on the National Assembly of Vietnam headquarter

Firstly, noting the lowest part of the emblem that is right below the ribbon and the formal name of Vietnam. In most of the images that I attached above (including the National Assembly HQ's "physical" Emblem), the right-wing of that part (from the viewer's P.O.V.) is somehow "above" the left-wing and covering the central parts of the left-wing, and that "coverage" is not illustrated in the current version. Besides that, the Formal name of Vietnam is also written too big in the current version, meanwhile, it is supposed to be slightly smaller and not supposed to touch the lowest edge of the ribbon.

Opinions and contributions from User:Fry1989 are the most important, as he is the author of the current version and engaged in a debate related to the color of this Emblem 12 years ago.

--Hwi.padam (talk) 18:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Revectorization effort

{{Edit request}} Requesting that the revectorized version present at File:Emblem of Vietnam (fixed for revision).svg or the one below be uploaded under this file name per the request at w:Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Illustration_workshop#High_priority_(?!):_Fixing_the_Emblem_of_Vietnam and the above discussion. HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 16:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

This seems to be already done --Jarekt (talk) 03:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Request update: fixed version of the emblem

I propose to change the current file with a more accurate and fixed version.

• 
  Current version
• Fixed version
  Fixed version

The current file has many small errors:

• The shadows of the stars shouldn't be symmetrical
• The strokes are inconsistent, sometimes too small and sometime too big
• The wheat design is higly different from the original version used by government
• The glyph "Ệ" overflows from its container
• The bottom part of the emblem is inaccurate and doesn't correspond to the original version used by government

Sources to check the correct version of the emblem used by the government:

• Official documents of the design of the emblem by Bùi Trang Chước
• Emblem used in government webistes [2] [3]
• History of the emblem with image of it
• Video of the exhibition dedicated to the emblem history
• Emblem used in a passport
• Discussion at the Grapics Lab

MingoBerlingo (talk) 21:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done by User:Sreejithk2000 --Jarekt (talk) 00:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)