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Images of buildings

I am currently working on the Wikipedia article List of Liverpool John Moores University halls of residence[1]. I have searched numerous sites such as Flickr for images of these halls of residence but to no prevail. With the buildings being owned by certain companies, is there any way a photo of a building could be uploaded to Wikipedia just for use on that article to simply portray the subject (in a similar way to non free-use logos) - e.g. using a photo of Prospect Point from the website [2]. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 17:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

By default, everything is copyrighted and unfree unless the copyright holder explicitly declares otherwise. You can upload a copyrighted image to Commons if the copyright holder will agree in writing to release it under a free content license. See COM:EIC#Permreq for instructions on requesting copyright permission. If you can get permission, follow COM:OTRS. You probably cannot upload a non-free picture of an existing building to the English Wikipedia user a fair use rationale because as long as the building exists it is possible to obtain a free image. "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose."

Another option is to search for related photos with {{Flickr free}}:

• Search Flickr for images with the keywords: John Moores University under these licenses: cc-by or cc-by-sa

There are some freely licensed photos of student accommodations such as Bull Ring - Top Floor. You can upload that particular photo manually with {{Flinfo}}:

• Run the Flinfo tool on Flickr ID: 3878729112, then upload with the simple Commons upload form

or use one of the Flickr upload bots under COM:EIC#Flickr.

Check the rest of that photographer's Flickr photostream. Sometimes a Flickr user will not put the right keywords on all his or her photos to make them easy to find with search, so you may have to scroll through the whole photostream to find unlabeled photos. If someone is already taking photos of buildings in a certain area, you might ask that person to photograph some more buildings. And see:

• Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Photographers - English Wikipedia users who will take photographs of various locations

--Teratornis (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

User:RuthAS

User:RuthAS has had a number of images marked as having no source and lacking copyright information when they clearly sourced as own work and licensed accordingly. RuthAS is a respected member of the en:wikipedia aircraft project and she has uploaded many rare aviation images she has taken herself in the 1940s and 1950s (some I believe did not have a licence declared but I understand members of the project are helping with that. Can we just remove these deletion notices if they are clearly wrong or does it need a process to rescue them. Withdrawn - has been sorted out by somebody else, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 19:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Help me

I cannot upload images because I forget my password of this page. Please help me get my password. This is my Userpage. Thanks.

Did you try E-mail new password in log in form? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

exif geotags

Hi! Is the loader reads the data files of the properties geotags in EXIF?

User:DschwenBot handle coordinates from EXIF. Basically it converted to {{Location}}. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Commons:EXIF might provide additional background information. --Teratornis (talk) 03:13, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

How to delete pictures

i want to delete several pictures i have uploaded to commons.

how is this done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stackjones (talk • contribs) 16:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

COM:D. --Teratornis (talk) 18:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Colour blindness

I have left a note at File talk:Form of government parliamentary.png about the unfortunate choice of colours used in the map, insofar as those colours are difficult for colour blind people (well, me at least) to distinguish. Is there some guidance or policy on the appropriate coulours to use in charts to improve accessibility for colour-blind people that I could link to from the talk page, for the information of the file creator? -- 05:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Accessibility#Color. --Teratornis (talk) 09:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

AC Cobra (Shelby Cobra) - new files on en:wp transferable to Commons?

In de:wp I would like to create / rework articles about the AC Cobra 260/289/427. On en:wp there are several new files from the Shelby American Museum and the Canadian International Autoshow here. All new files are not from Commons, just only on the en:wp. Is there a reason for this (concerning the licenses), I haven´t seen yet (or am I just the first to ask)? Are they transferable to Commons? If yes, it would be nice, if somebody could do this (sorry, my skills are rather writing articles than handling files and licenses). The right categories are: "Shelby vehicles" and "AC Cobra". You can answer in english or german as you like. Thanks. --Roland Rattfink (talk) 08:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

A file such as File:Shelby AC Cobra 289 FIA Roadster.JPG appears suitable for moving to Commons. See WP:MITC and WP:EIW#MoveToCommons. The original uploader should have uploaded the file to Commons instead of to the English Wikipedia. Many Wikipedia users upload files to their local Wikipedia even if the files are freely licensed or public domain. This is usually because they are not aware that they should upload to Commons. These projects are so complicated that hardly anyone knows everything about them. Maybe no single person knows every last trick. --Teratornis (talk) 09:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I have some notes about this in User:Teratornis/Notes#Move some images to Commons if you want to read about my adventures. --Teratornis (talk) 09:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the answers and the links. Up to now I have just categorized files and transferred some new files from Flickr. I´ve just tried to transfer File:Shelby AC Cobra, CSX2000.JPG, but it didn´t work right now. I seems that I had to read the instructions a little more detailed when I have time to. Maybe there is the opportunity to test it the next days. --Roland Rattfink (talk) 09:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Your talk page does not show that you have created a TUSC account which you will need to run CommonsHelper. My notes are detailed about all the steps. The first image you move is the hardest; further image moves will be easy. If you will move many images, you may want to create a template as a user subpage on the English Wikipedia to save typing by constructing the CommonsHelper URL with input fields prefilled, as I did with User:Teratornis/Notes/CommonsHelper. See for example my wikitext in User:Teratornis/Notes#Move more files, from Category:Wind turbines. --Teratornis (talk) 16:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

A small step for men, a great step to mankind ... . I think I´ve made it (five files right now). It seems rather simple, if you take the time, just to follow the instruction step by step. Thanks for your help. --Roland Rattfink (talk) 18:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

A good forum on Commons?

Hi. :) We've received a release via OTRS (Ticket:2010031410022872) from Frederick Noronha permitting the importing to Commons of any images placed at [3] on or before 31 March 2010 under the license Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported. He does not wish to place this release on the images themselves or the website, but is pleased to permit Commons users to import what they please. (Though the images at the site are all tagged non-com, he understands that commercial reuse is possible.) I've placed notice of this at Free media resources, but I suspect it will not receive much attention there. Is there a good forum on Commons to publicize this kind of generous release so that contributors will have a chance to make use of these images? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Commons:Batch uploading ? -- User:Docu at 14:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

That's a tough question. The inconsistent licensing on Flickr will defeat Flickr search via {{Flickr free}} which cannot know that the photographer has circumvented the noncommercial restriction elsewhere. It is hard to insure that everyone who might like to use one of the images on a Wikimedia Foundation project will be aware of them - this is hard for image search generally. If you or anyone else uploaded some of these images to Commons, you might create a category and a template on Commons to document where they originated. See for example Category:Images from PLoS Genetics and the corresponding {{PLoS}}. That would slightly increase the chance that someone who stumbled across one of the images already here might know where to find related images. Also consider mentioning them on the talk pages of any related WikiProjects. There is an added difficulty that (probably) only a small fraction of Wikipedia users know how to upload images from Flickr to Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Cartesian Theater.jpg

File:Cartesian Theater.jpg should be replaced by File:Cartesian Theater.svg in all projects. Please add this request to the proper bot page. -- Marawe (talk) 07:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Replacing one filetype with another filetype is not possible for User:CommonsDelinker/commands. (also it is not Commons duty to assure, that projects reuse the best files ;) ). Replace must be done by hand. --Martin H. (talk) 13:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

You can add {{Vector version available}} to the bitmap version. Currently the bitmap version has a link to the vector version, but it does not explicitly say to use the vector version. Adding the template will tell Wikipedia users who click through to the bitmap version to put the vector version in their local projects. --Teratornis (talk) 18:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I added the template. --Teratornis (talk) 02:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Fehler in deutscher Benutzeroberfläche

Auf der Seite Benutzerbeiträge (Special:Contributions) steht ganz unten ein Link Bearbeitungszähler (Edit count). Wenn ich als Sprache Deutsch eingestellt habe führt der Link zu:

http://stable.toolserver.org/editcount/result?username=...

Dort gibt es nur eine Fehlermeldung "The content you are looking for was hosted on the old stable Toolserver, which no longer exists. Sorry." Mit englischer Spracheinstellung funktioniert es:

http://toolserver.org/~vvv/yaec.php?user=

-- 92.230.101.211 07:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hallo, danke für den Hinweis; habe den Link im deutschen Interface entsprechend angepasst. Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 08:09, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

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создал статью и записал её в Черновик(?). Хочу дальше ее редактировать, но никак не могу ее найти в своем Личном кабинете. Подскажите, плиз! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deyanov Ramil' (talk • contribs) 13:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Your contributions show that you have uploaded several files to Wikimedia Commons, but the draft you mention in your question is not here. Did you edit something on the Russian Wikipedia? The file usage on some of your uploaded files shows a link to:

• ru:Википедия:Проект:Инкубатор/Статьи/Линия фона экспериментальных данных

I don't read Russian, but Google translates it to English as Wikipedia: Project: Incubator / Articles / Line of the background of experimental data. Is that the page you are talking about? If you have a question about the Russian Wikipedia, you should ask on the Help desk there. Which oddly I don't see an obvious link to. Also:

• You uploaded a mathematical equation to Commons as an image file - you should rather format it with math markup; see WP:MATH.
• You uploaded several plots of functions or data as bitmap files; they would be much better as SVG files. Plotting software such as gnuplot can generate SVG files.

--Teratornis (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Promotion

Where can I promote an image? And which possibilities are given in Commons-wiki?--A.Ceta (talk) 14:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I think you may be interested in Commons:Quality images, Commons:Valued images, Commons:Featured pictures. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! I must firstly figure out which evaluation system is appropriate. --A.Ceta (talk) 11:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Video

I've uploaded a video File:Steinway piano - Duo-Art.ogg to use it at Wikipedia. When the video is not playing there is no picture, just a red cross and the text "File:Steinway piano - Duo-Art.ogg". Do somebody know what is wrong? Rerumirf (talk) 21:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

That appears to be the default behavior - but I'm not sure on that. --J.smith (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

It is not the default behavior. For some reason MediaWiki is not making a thumbnail for this video. --Yarnalgo (talk) 23:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The file format should be ogv, as ogg is used for audio. Try reuploading under the ogv extension, which should give you a nice thumbnail. ZooFari 02:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Could someone turn a picture around for me please?

Hi, I uploaded a picture which I took with the camera sideways. Apparently some apps will ruin the picture if you turn it around with them. Maybe this is a myth I don't know. Could someone who does know turn this picture the right way up for me and tell me what the likelyhood is of ruining the detail in a picture by doing that? File:Vincent Wallace bust outside Theatre Royal Waterford.jpg Note:It's not the best compression anyway but I am just interested to know if anyone does. Many thanks ~ R.T.G 16:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Just mark images like this with {{Rotate}} with 90 or 270 degree depending on the side to turn to. Rotatebot will rotate image with lossless rotate-tools jpegtran --Justass (talk) 17:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

That's great thank you. ~ R.T.G 17:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

{{En}} messed up by URL

For some reason, external links such as http://www.westohioumc.org/church_detail.asp?pkvalue=1617 appear to be mangling the {{En}} template. See the description at this version of a file and compare it to the current version, which has no differences except the change in the street address and the removal of {{En}}. Any idea why this external link messes up the template? I know that many external links don't cause problems — File:Belle Center Church of Christ.jpg has an external link and everything displays properly, but a change of the URL to the westohioumc.org site displays improperly in preview — so I doubt that I'm doing something wrongly. Any ideas about what could be wrong here? Nyttend (talk) 21:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

= in the url. Use {{en|1=URL}}. --Martin H. (talk) 21:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. What in the URL causes this problem? Nyttend (talk) 23:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Like Martin H. said, the = in the URL. This causes the part of the URL before the = to be interpreted as a parameter name and the part after it as a parameter value. --rimshot^talk 23:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see; I thought Martin meant "the problem equals the URL", rather than "the problem is the equals sign in the URL". Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Literal translation from German thinking to english words, Lol :) Sorry for the bad explanation. --Martin H. (talk) 00:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

See Help:Template#URL problems. --Teratornis (talk) 05:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

arkham horror

Is this "Arkham Horror" logo (just the words) within the threshold of originality? Thanks. chanchicto 08:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

If it is just the text, and only the text, then it is ineligible for copyright (even if it is a really fancy font). However, if you include the background banner or any of the surrounding illustrations/images, then it would be eligible for copyright protection in the US. See template:pd-textlogo.-Andrew c (talk) 14:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Categories

Hello!

I´ve got an e-mail with the request to categorize my pictures. The problem is that I did not find where or how to do that. Please help me!

Best regards,

Caroline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bucab (talk • contribs) 08:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Please review the message left on your talk page, User talk:Bucab. It explains how to categorize images. You can check out an existing image as an example. See File:Zack Greinke on July 29, 2009.jpg. Click on the "edit" or "view source" link. Scroll down to the bottom, and you will see 5 categories. You just need to locate a category or two or three that fit your image, and add them to the bottom of the page, using that syntax (i.e. [[Category:XXX]] where XXX represents the category name). You can start browsing categories here: Category:Categories, or locate images similar to yours and use those categories. If you have specific questions, I'd be glad to assist further. Good luck! -Andrew c (talk) 14:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Read the manuals linked from COM:EIC#Cat. Categories are typically one of the more confusing features for the new user of the MediaWiki software that powers Wikimedia Commons. I categorized the three photos you uploaded; see my diffs for example this one. On Commons we have categories for most named locations in the world, so a photo which is of a fixed location will almost always have a corresponding category (or a more general containing category, such as a category for a state, province, county, country, etc.). We also have categories for all major industries and many minor ones. As well as for styles of architecture, etc. A single image can potentially be in several categories depending on how many independent objects or attributes the image illustrates. Often you can find appropriate categories by typing keywords from the image description into the search box on the left. --Teratornis (talk) 02:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Also, is the logo in File:Prefa logo.jpg really licensed under {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}? If so, that is unusual for a corporate logo, the vast majority of which would be copyrighted if they contain copyrightable artistic elements as this one does. See COM:CB#Trademarks. If the PREFA company really has freely licensed its logo, you should document that fact by following the procedure in COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 02:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Are highway markers I created based on real ones considered free/legal?

Because there are none whatsoever, I am creating route markers based on the real signs for Yukon Highway 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 11. Even though I'm making them, I want to know if they should still be considered free or legal since I've seen copyright tags on many other route markers, even if they were made by the uploader. Cody⁵⁷⁴ 02:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Looks like we have a bunch for New Brunswick, so there's precedence I suppose. Wknight94 ^talk 03:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

So I can release mine into the public domain then? Cody⁵⁷⁴ 03:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Is this image OK to upload?

I took this photo[4] a while ago, probably last month, is it OK to upload? I am worried it might not be allowed for some reason like copyright. Matthew Paul Argall (talk) 05:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

EDIT, I forgot to mention it's a photo of a local store. It's not a chain-store to my knowledge, I think it's a local one owned privately. Would that mean nobody would have use for it? Matthew Paul Argall (talk) 05:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It looks ok to me. The only parts of the image I see that are copyrighted are the "Pauls" logo or the Coke cans but I think they can be safely considered De minimis. --Yarnalgo (talk) 18:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

When you upload it, try to specify the location as accurately as possible in the image description. If you know the coordinates, put them into a {{Location}} template. Unfortunately it appears that your camera does not automatically geocode images, if we may correctly interpret the EXIF data from the File:Bridge in Victoria 11.JPG that you also uploaded. See COM:GEO and the links under COM:EIC#Geo. --Teratornis (talk) 19:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe {{location dec|-37.848|145.3611|heading:SW}} could work. -- User:Docu at 20:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll upload it later today, if it helps I'll include the location in the descrition (Olinda which is in Mt Danendong Victoria, Australia, to be exact). Matthew Paul Argall (talk) 02:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Can these image be posted using PD-OLD ?

Hello, I was wondering if it was OK to post on Commons either [5] (from this site or [6]. Both are faithful reproductions of a 13th century map, thus I'm tempted to think it's OK per BRIDGEMAN ART LIBRARY, LTD. v. COREL CORP.. Yet I am not 100% sure, so I thought I'd ask here. Additionally, the map is currently owned by the Bibliothèque Nationale de France and a reproduction (not sure which one exactly) was apparently published in a 1984 book, Les Portulans: cartes marines du XIIIe siècle (ref here). Thanks in advance for your help... --Alþykkr (talk) 02:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Commons does not give legal advice; for that you must consult an attorney. For a cautionary tale see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-07-13/Copyright threat - the mere fact that a legal precedent exists in one country does not stop someone in another country from bringing suit. A conservative approach would be to ask the publisher for permission and follow the steps in COM:OTRS. --Teratornis (talk) 20:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'd say it's okay to post on Commons, though the first one I cut out the logo first. Whether or not it's legal in your home country I can't say, but it's rather unlikely to rebound upon you.--Prosfilaes (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

im completely new

How do I create a page which is a biography of myself? I have everything typed out in word already, but I don't know what to do from here. I basically want to create a page like the ones you see of other people in the public eye, and I'd also like to ad my picture. Please help MJ Bernstein (talk) 04:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Autobiography. --Teratornis (talk) 08:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Maps made from www.openstreetmap.org

Hi, I made maps of bounderies of natural parks in the netherlands with openstreetmap as background. How should I upload these files (License: OpenStreetMap allows you to view, edit and use geographical data in a collaborative way from anywhere on Earth.) => It is entirely my own work, or another upload possibility. --Black Orchid (talk) 10:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

No. Open streetmap is licensed, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/ - {{Cc-by-sa-2.0}}. The share alike requires, that you license your derivative work also under a cc-by-sa license and that you attribute the original authors. For that purpose we have {{Openstreetmap}}, that template is very simple, too simple I think, because more information is possible: It is possible to link to the open streetmap view directly (example: File:London OpenStreetMap.png) and it is possible to give a little more information about the authors with linking to the projects, see File:Spoorlijn26A.png for example. --Martin H. (talk) 12:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, at first I uploaded the files with the simple info. Will adjust the info later. Thanx for the help. I put the links of the files at my page. --Black Orchid (talk) 06:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Trần Ngọc Châu hp cần giúp đỡ

Tôi muốn tải hình ảnh,clip của mình lên nhưng trên thanh công cụ bên trái không xuất hiện tải lên tập tin. vậy tôi phải làm thế nào đẻ tải lên được xin được giúp đỡ. xin chân thành cám ơn; 123.26.210.133 13:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Log in or create an account. Only logged-in users can upload files here. Lupo 07:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Picture of map clubdistretti.org

I have a question. I'm writing a special topic about the Italian Industrial Districts (distretti industriali) on the Dutch Wikipedia and would like to add an educational map to the topic. The source of the map is this website: http://www.clubdistretti.it/Distretti/Mappe-dei-distretti.htm.

I would love to add this map to my article but I am unsure if a can upload it on Wikimedia commons due to the licensing restriction. I would like to know if this is possible and if the answer is yes how I can get it on Wikimedia commons.

With regards, UU-ITA-NiKl (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I didn't find any information about copyright. By default, we must assume that all rights are reserved, so you may not use the map. You can contact them, though, and ask them whether they would be willing to publish the map under a free license. --rimshot^talk 16:07, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

A finished map drawn by someone else has copyrightable design elements, but you are free to draw your own map by starting with a freely licenced or public domain blank map of Italy. See Idea-expression divide and this tutorial from the French Wikipedia graphic lab:

• fr:Wikipédia:Atelier graphique/Didacticiels cartographiques/Didacticiel pour calquer une carte - translate to English with Google - Trace a pre-existing raster map onto a vector map

For example, if you find a map that shows political boundaries, and some symbols to mark various locations, you can get a free map with the same political boundaries, and draw your own symbols on it. The location of a symbol is probably not copyrightable, but the style of the symbol (its color, shape, etc.) is copyrightable. However, exactly what is copyrightable depends on the country of publication, so you would need to check your local laws. --Teratornis (talk) 17:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

adding category to newly uploaded pictures

Hi,

New to wikipedia edits & add-ons. Trying to work my way up to start my own contributions.

For now, I'm trying to categorize my pictures to place into relevent page as well.

The page i'm hoping to add these within: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Hill,_Mississippi

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:18760_100723619962630_100000749775279_20984_2527503_n.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:18760_100723613295964_100000749775279_20982_3012363_n.jpg

So, I went to image above (ending in .....3012363_n.jpg) followed to summary, "hit" edit, then entered:

|Category= within the code page. This was the best category I could come up with as the page discusses this particular churches architectural style, etc....

but when saved the category did not show up within summary outline (i.e. description, source, etc...)

is there a delay for approval/ for editing because I am new or ???

Thanks for any help!

tatecraft

upload new file over old one

Hi. I am trying to upload a new file over an old one ( [File:Winnnipesaukee Ice Out.JPG] if it matters) because when i first added it i did not realize there was a little pup up that i accidently saved in the file. When i try to upload the file without this, i get the normal "A file with this name already exists..." warning, but when i click "Submit Modified File Description," it just loops me right back to the Upload File page with the same warning. Help?--Found5dollar (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

You are doing right, there seems to be a temporary technical problem with reupload, COM:VP#Ugh.2C_what.27s_the_problem_now.3F. --Martin H. (talk) 14:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok good. how will i know when it is fixed?--Found5dollar (talk) 14:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

It will work. :) --J.smith (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)