Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maia Chiburdanidze 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg
The licenses on this image are completely bunk. For one, the stamps was created after 1966. We also know who created it, R. Bojanic, and they probably died in 2017. Also, stamps aren't laws or anything else that would qualify them for being PD under the laws of Serbia and Montenegro. Although even if that wasn't the case, this still clearly isn't PD in Yugoslavia. The same goes for the following images:
- File:Zsuzsa Polgár 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg
- File:Nona Gaprindashvili 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg
- File:Xie Jun 2001 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg
- File:Stamps of Yugoslavia Chess 2001.jpg
- File:Europa 1986 Yugoslavia 01.jpg
- File:Europa 1986 Yugoslavia 02.jpg
- File:Europa 1986 Yugoslavia Series.jpg
- File:Europa 1986 Yugoslavia Series.jpg
- File:Europa 1991 Yugoslavia 01.jpg
- File:Europa 1991 Yugoslavia 02.jpg
- File:Europa 1991 Yugoslavia series.jpg
Adamant1 (talk) 07:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Keep. When Yugoslavia broke up in the 1990s, Serbia took over all issues related to stamps and their copyright, except for stamps that were clearly marked as belonging to other breakaway republics (Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Macedonia). Radomir Bojanić worked for the postal service of Yugoslavia and then Serbia [1], and his 2001 stamps mentioned above were printed in Serbia, as Yugoslavia did not exist anymore. Thus {{PD-SerbiaGov}} applies, where stamps fall under "2. Official materials of state bodies and bodies performing public functions". Materialscientist (talk) 08:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- That keep rational has never held water. No one considers stamps to be covered by any kind of "official materials of state bodies and bodies performing public functions" clause. Except in extremely rare cases where the government of said country has explicitly said that's the case, which the last time I checked Serbia hasn't. In the meantime whatever the details with Yugoslavia are, the stamps are still supposedly being licensed under PD-Yugoslavia, which clearly isn't valid. Be my guest and remove the PD-Yugoslavia template from the images if you want, but until then you can't both claim that the stamps are copyright free because of PD-Yugoslavia by adding the template to them and then claim after the fact when someone takes issue with their copyright status that the template should be ignored because Yugoslavia didn't exist at the time. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, COM:PCP. This is basically the same case as Commons:Deletion requests/File:Famous personalities 1999 Yugoslavia stamp.jpg, so my rationale will be the same. I can't find anything about Yugoslavian stamps in our guidelines. COM:Stamps has nothing on Yugoslavia or Serbia, COM:Yugoslavia has nothing on stamps, COM:Serbia neither, nor any of the pages of the other successor states. I noticed that Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Serbia#Templates claims that both {{PD-SerbiaGov}} and the similarly worded {{PD-SCGGov}} (for Serbia and Montenegro) can be used for “stamps, money etc.”, but without naming any details. The wording of PD-SerbiaGov (“Official materials of state bodies and bodies performing public functions”) and PD-SCGGov (“Official materials of state authorities or materials published by any other person or institution which do public function”) is rather vague and open to interpretation. That kind of interpretation is the job of courts and legal literature, but I don't see anything here pointing in the direction that courts or legal commentaries consider stamps from Yugoslavia to be official works or in the public domain. In fact, per Template talk:PD-SerbiaGov, the Intellectual Property Office of the Republic of Serbia apparently replied to a query by e-mail that the category official materials covers only “official acts, drawings and blueprints of building and cadaster agencies, diplomas, certificates, official reports of government agencies, statistical reports, drafts of Laws and other documents. They also explicitly state in their answer that we cannot include any photo from government's web sites in the category of official materials, nor anything else from government's web sites not included in the aforementioned categories.” So probably neither stamps nor money are official materials in Serbia, and presumably they weren't in Serbia and Montenegro or Yugoslavia either. In the absence of any evidence that stamps are official materials, I'll take the default position and assume that they are not official materials or in the PD. The author of these stamps is named as R. Bojanić, that is probably the Serbian artist Radomir Bojanić. I couldn't find anything about his death, and since he was apparently born in 1951, he could be alive. I'll go with Serbian copyright law (not that it would make much difference I think), so the files can be restored 70 years after Radomir Bojanić's death. --Rosenzweig τ 19:03, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
