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== RePrecious George Bellanniversary ==
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--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
SorryFour Kingsindian. I had not scrolled down enough to see the "missing" text down at the bottom. Better where it isyears now! though I think.--[[User:CharlesdrakewGerda Arendt|CharlesGerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:CharlesdrakewGerda Arendt|talk]]) 1609:1450, 128 AugustJune 20182020 (UTC)
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: {{re|Charlesdrakew}} No worries. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 17:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, Kingsindian (cc: {{u|Clockback}}). I've closed the AN block appeal discussion, as it's clear there's not going to be any consensus for the unblock you seek. I closed the discussion now to spare the project of more drama than it has already received. However, let me be clear: had that discussion remained open for a sufficient period of time, and the discussion continued to trend in the way it was going, it would have been closed as a community-endorsed block, which, according to [[WP:CBAN|policy]], is the same thing as a community ''ban''. Administrators do not have the authority to overturn a community ban; a later community discussion authorizing an unblock would be '''required''', and the bare minimum "time served" for that to happen would most likely be six months, per [[WP:SO|standard practice]]. I came ''very'' close to closing the discussion in that manner, but ultimately felt that the discussion had not been open long enough for there to have been the required "due consideration" sufficient for a community ban. There is nothing inherently harsh about an indefinite block. It can be as short as a few minutes. It's largely up to the blocked user. All that is required is a [[WP:GAB|GAB]]-compliant unblock request. Blocked users have the right to re-appeal to a new admin, ''as many times as they want'', they have the right to debate, dispute and discuss the block with administrators ''ad infinitum'', they can negotiate unblock conditions, and hammer out what exactly needs to be said or done in order to secure an unblock. When you appeal to the community and the community endorses the block, ''all of that'' goes out the window and the user basically has no recourse but the six month [[WP:SO|standard offer]], though it's ''still'' left up to another community discussion at that point. So, in your good faith effort to cast this indefinite block as "too harsh", you almost got the user indefinitely ''banned'', which is substantially more draconian. I performed the close at this time on the assumption that nobody will have a problem with allowing the user to retain the regular options for an unblock. There is no guarantee that somebody won't insist on reopening the discussion, thus giving the block "due consideration", in order to secure a community-block, and if that happens, there's really nothing I can do. But, this is just a heads-up about the situation. I think the best thing you can do is bow out and let this user quietly negotiate an unblock. Like I said, there is no guarantee that things won't escalate further, but letting the user handle it with admins is going to be their best bet. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, [[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'><big>'''S'''</big><small>'''''warm'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em red'>♠</span>]] 05:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
: {{re|Swarm}} I have communicated with Clockback, and they would like to re-open the block review and let it run its course, even if it means that they might end up in an even bigger hole. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 06:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
::Alright. I've sent Clockback a message giving them one more chance to reconsider, but if they confirm that they fully understand the gravity of the consequences and still wish to reopen the discussion, I will do so. [[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'><big>'''S'''</big><small>'''''warm'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em red'>♠</span>]] 07:18, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
::: {{re|Swarm}} Clockback has now replied on the talkpage, asking for re-opening. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 10:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
::::My sympathy is still with Clockback, as I consider he has been harshly and unfairly treated. But it's hard to help someone who shoots himself in the foot at every opportunity. I'd like to thank you for what you've done on his behalf. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 19:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
== Misc.Arbitration case opened ==
In 2018, you offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has now accepted that request for arbitration, and an arbitration case has been opened at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog]]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Evidence]]. Please add your evidence by March 23, 2020, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For your Herculean effort to raise the standard of debate on administrative noticeboards and throughout the project. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small></sup> 07:16, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
: {{re|Zero0000}} Thanks for the kind words. Btw, I would characterize it as "Sisyphean" rather than "Herculean". [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 08:33, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
All content, links, and diffs from the [[Special:PermanentLink/872120137#Jytdog|original ARC]] and the [[Special:Permalink/944557164#Jytdog - re-opened 2018 case|latest ARC]] are being read into the evidence for this case.
== Hitchens ==
The secondary mailing list is in use for this case: arbcom-en-b@wikimedia.org
I see that you have resigned from the discussion. Kind of a crowded forum. If you would like to talk via google hangouts or skype, i would be willing. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 17:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
: {{re|Jytdog}} I would probably prefer email. In any case, I need a break from this matter for now. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 18:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
::I thought talking would be more swift. (I would do that voice only if the anonymity is your concern).
::I sympathize with your frustration; whatever you like, or nothing. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 18:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
::: {{re|Jytdog}} I usually need time to think through what I'm saying, and I do lots of edits and rewriting. That's why I prefer asynchronous communication like email. There's no hurry about the matter, since the outcome isn't really in the balance now. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 18:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
:::: I appreciate your thoughtfulness. Email is fine. :) And only if you like. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 18:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I hope that I’m not intruding here, but might be of interest to yourself and Jytdog (who I assume has watch listed here) the article Peter Hitchens wrote on his blog: [http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2018/08/goodbye-wikipedia-and-thanks-for-all-the-laughs.html Goodbye Wikipedia and thanks for all the laughs].--[[User:Literaturegeek|<span style="color:blue">Literaturegeek</span>]] | [[User_talk:Literaturegeek|<span style="color:blue">''T@1k?''</span>]] 10:11, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::: {{re|Literaturegeek}} Thanks. I already knew about it though: Hitchens emailed a link to me. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 10:32, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:Cthomas3|'''''<span style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: larger; color: black;"><span style="color: brown;">C</span>Thomas<sup style="font-size: x-small; color: brown;">3</sup></span>''''']] ([[User talk:Cthomas3|talk]]) 17:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry: I all but completely left Wikipedia several months ago after an unpleasant experience on de.wikipedia.org, hence I have only just seen that you mentioned me during the Clocback COI discussion. It's far too late now, but still for what it's worth: your assessment of the situation fits in very nicely with my perceptions from the time when I was active on the Bell article. Clockback was upfront about his RL identity and his agenda was well known. At one point the other user and I were in agreement that the section needed to be pruned back, but I found it difficult to hold a reasoned discussion with them about how to do it. I'm unfamiliar with dispute resolution on en.wikipedia.org, but it looks as if you approached the COI discussion very conscientiously and were given a hard time for your pains: I am very sorry about that. My position: Although I sincerely hope that Bell is innocent of the allegations, I believe strongly in writing the WP article according to the current state of the reliable sources. --[[User:GroupCohomologist|GroupCohomologist]] ([[User talk:GroupCohomologist|talk]]) 18:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
== Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict...please fill out my survey? ==
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[[User:Sarabnas|Sarabnas]] <sup>[[User:Sarabnas|I'm researching Wikipedia]]</sup> <sub>[[User_talk:Sarabnas|Questions?]]</sub> 16:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
== Hi ==
I wondered if you had seen the present [[WP:ARCA]], initiated by Sir Joseph. The arb.com members wants evidence from [[WP:AE]]...I seem to recall that you gave some at an AE? ...but I cannot find it. Please refresh my memory...[[User:Huldra|Huldra]] ([[User talk:Huldra|talk]]) 22:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
== Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard ==
Hi. I saw your comments there. I am sorry we seem to have different views on what standard of sourcing we should use on articles on living people, and that the consensus seems to be totally against you. Can I suggest making any complaints you may have about my actions at a more relevant forum like AN/I? Obviously I don't think there was anything wrong with what I did, but if you do, that would make more sense than (apparently) holding a long-term grudge. Thanks. --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 10:05, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
: {{re|John}} I have no interest in complaining at ANI (the matter is not too important either way). And I don't know you, and don't plan to hold any long-term grudge against you. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 10:13, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
== 1RR ==
"Perhaps I should collect all these absurd cases and open an ARCA request." — That is a very good idea and I'll help as I can. But ArbCom have shown a frustrating lack of interest in clarifying their own rulings. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small></sup> 13:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
*Ghcool it was not his first revert so the rule doesn't apply. --[[user:Shrike|Shrike]] ([[User talk:Shrike|talk]]) 13:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
:: {{re|Zero0000}} I am a bit pressed for time now, but I'll probably open an ARCA request soon. My opinion is that it would be best to simply go back to 1RR, with no frills at all. It's simple and a bright line, which is what it should be. One cannot really handle all the game-playing that goes on in political areas with one rule. So the best thing is to have a simple (and effective) rule. More complicated cases can be handled with discretionary sanctions. What do you think? [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]] [[User Talk: Kingsindian|♝]] [[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|♚]] 07:01, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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