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The result was '''delete'''. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 14:16, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
===[[Siopepa Tailolo]]===
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:<small>Note: This discussion has been included in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football#Nominations for deletion and page moves|WikiProject Football]]'s list of association football-related deletions. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 16:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)</small>
*'''Delete''' - fails [[WP:GNG]] (no significant coverage) and [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] (has not played at senior international level or in a [[WP:FPL|fully-pro league]]). [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 16:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
**'''Keep''' Article satisfies to [[WP:FOOTYN]]. (3. Have played FIFA recognised senior international football or football at the Olympic games.) He participated at the [[Oceanian Futsal Championship]], a football tournament recognised by the FIFA. The winner of this tournament participates at the [[FIFA Futsal World Cup]]. Tuvalu is part of the OFC, the football association from Oceania and therefore recognised by FIFA. Article is already a half year on wikipedia if it will not be to the criteria satisfy Article already rather removes. --[[User:Klant01|Klant01]] ([[User talk:Klant01|talk]]) 12:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
***'''Comment'''. Your claims that futsal caps satisfy [[WP:FOOTYN]] are incorrect. As was established [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Onusemu Neemia|here]] consensus (and on reflection common sense) says they do not (I even argued your case!!) and that WP:FOOTYN refers solely to 11-a-side football, hence why it is an essay from Wikiproject football, not wikiproject futsal, so the fact that it is a FIFA recognised tournament is not relevant as it is in a sport that is different from the one the guideline you quote in support of your argument was intended for. The only fallback then is [[WP:GNG]], which as GiantSnowman has pointed out it also fails as there is no significant reliable third party coverage. Thirdly, please try to avoid using the "It's been here for ages so should stay argument". This is completely irrelevant and is specifically one argument that editors are asked to avoid [[WP:LONGTIME|here]]. [[User:Fenix down|Fenix down]] ([[User talk:Fenix down|talk]]) 17:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - hasn't actually played for his country's national team. Fails [[WP:NFOOTY]] and [[WP:GNG]]. <span>– [[User:Kosm1fent|<span style="color:#191970">'''Kosm'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kosm1fent|<span style="color:#36454F">'''1'''</span>]][[User Talk:Kosm1fent|<span style="color:#00416A">'''fent'''</span>]]</span> 19:32, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sportspeople|list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)</small>
*'''Delete''' - per nom. He fails [[WP:NSPORT]], since it does not cover futsal national teams as playing for them does not necessarily generate significant coverage, and since hasn't played in a fully pro league or the 11-a side national team. In the absence of significant coverage also fails [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 19:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - as a footballer he fails [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] as he hasn't played in a [[WP:FPL|fully pro league]] or represented his country at senior level. As a futsal-player he fails [[WP:NSPORTS]] as he hasn't participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level such as the Olympics. Also fails [[WP:GNG]] due to lack of coverage in reliable sources. [[User:Mentoz86|Mentoz86]] ([[User talk:Mentoz86|talk]]) 17:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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