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:Now I have removed most instances of the term regime as it refers to the GDR, the Socialist government, Honecker's leadership, etc. [[User:Proletarian Banner|Proletarian Banner]] ([[User talk:Proletarian Banner|talk]]) 23:54, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
::With a name such as "Proletarian Banner" alone it is laughable to assume you edited in good faith. [[User:Synotia|Synotia]] ([[User talk:Synotia|talk]]) 09:04, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 
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== NPOV issues ==
 
This article has issues with presenting a neutral point of view. In the first sentence, it mentions that Honecker was a "dictator". This is not consistent with other articles for heads of state of the GDR or other socialist countries, especially those that had more political influence.
 
Also concerning is that one editor repeatedly reverts the addition of the NPOV template without having a good reason to do so. [[User:Michael60634|Michael60634]] ([[User talk:Michael60634|talk]]) 16:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
:All that matters is whether reliable sources describe him as such.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 18:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
::The wording also matters. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. And the Wikipedia pages of other people known as dictators do not mention that the person is a dictator in the lead. Consistency is important. [[User:Michael60634|Michael60634]] ([[User talk:Michael60634|talk]]) 18:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
:::"Neutral" means follows reliable sources. If he's referred to as dictator by reliable sources then neutrality requires we do so as well. I have no idea nor care how "other pages" do it. If "other pages" fail to accurately reflect sources then it's those that need to be corrected.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 22:32, 28 December 2022 (UTC)