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== [[Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011_April_2#File:Breznev-Honecker 1979.jpg]] ==
All opinions welcome. Thank you.
== Where is his final resting place ????? ==
Where is his final resting place ????[[User:Cuye|Milton]] ([[User talk:Cuye|talk]]) 02:58, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
:That's a good question, I would want to give flowers. [[User:Proletarian Banner|Proletarian Banner]] ([[User talk:Proletarian Banner|talk]]) 23:18, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
== "Disgusting" kiss? ==
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"According to former Polish Communist leader Wojciech Jaruzelski Honecker kissed many politicians in a disgusting way."
This line comes across as homophobic and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, IMHO. It should be reduced to 1) "...kissed many politicians.", 2) otherwise edited, or 3) removed altogether. I vote for 1). <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Gunnstein|Gunnstein]] ([[User talk:Gunnstein|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gunnstein|contribs]]) 09:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Such kissing was merely the Socialist Fraternal Kiss which is closely related to the cheek kissing which was custom in European nations, with the Socialist Fraternal Kiss being popular within Socialist ones and being exchanged amongst leaders, in rare cases on the mouth if they were especially close. [[User:Proletarian Banner|Proletarian Banner]] ([[User talk:Proletarian Banner|talk]]) 00:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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Yes, the random mention of a son is confusing, and probably incorrect. Is this another illegitimate child? Should be deleted if there is no source for the claim.
::You forgot to sign your comment! [[User:Proletarian Banner|Proletarian Banner]] ([[User talk:Proletarian Banner|talk]]) 23:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
== Biases ==
The article contains various biased, erroneous, and oxymoronic terms and phrasing intended to evoke negative reaction out of readers. Terms such as regime are present when terms such as government, leadership, or country could be substituted in their place. [[User:Proletarian Banner|Proletarian Banner]] ([[User talk:Proletarian Banner|talk]]) 23:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
:Now I have removed most instances of the term regime as it refers to the GDR, the Socialist government, Honecker's leadership, etc. [[User:Proletarian Banner|Proletarian Banner]] ([[User talk:Proletarian Banner|talk]]) 23:54, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
::With a name such as "Proletarian Banner" alone it is laughable to assume you edited in good faith. [[User:Synotia|Synotia]] ([[User talk:Synotia|talk]]) 09:04, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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== NPOV issues ==
This article has issues with presenting a neutral point of view. In the first sentence, it mentions that Honecker was a "dictator". This is not consistent with other articles for heads of state of the GDR or other socialist countries, especially those that had more political influence.
Also concerning is that one editor repeatedly reverts the addition of the NPOV template without having a good reason to do so. [[User:Michael60634|Michael60634]] ([[User talk:Michael60634|talk]]) 16:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
:All that matters is whether reliable sources describe him as such.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 18:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
::The wording also matters. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. And the Wikipedia pages of other people known as dictators do not mention that the person is a dictator in the lead. Consistency is important. [[User:Michael60634|Michael60634]] ([[User talk:Michael60634|talk]]) 18:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
:::"Neutral" means follows reliable sources. If he's referred to as dictator by reliable sources then neutrality requires we do so as well. I have no idea nor care how "other pages" do it. If "other pages" fail to accurately reflect sources then it's those that need to be corrected.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 22:32, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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