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Our group is not totally pleased with your deliberate attempt at "hiding" the fact that there is a petition drive going on at a national level by teams in many states and California to keep the offense going for teams like ours, and other teams like ours. It would have been more honest of you Zeng8r to have listed that point, because there is a long way to go, and to purposefully delete that fact is not acknowledging the truth. But, since you are determined to do so, we have no choice but to succumb to your editorial power at this time. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.110.34.116|69.110.34.116]] ([[User talk:69.110.34.116|talk]]) 19:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you have reliable, third-party sources for this petition, please post them and that info can be added to this article.--[[User:2008Olympian|<
::This user/users has/have ignored many helpful wikilinks and suggestions over the past few weeks, which is why he/they have been blocked twice. A request for sources was already made long ago and may still be on this talkpage somewhere if he/they didn't delete it during one of his/their many page wipes. That info would be just fine if cited and written in a non-promotional tone.
::To the members of "group" (who, oddly enough, have only edited this single article out of the millions on this site): again, if you'd like to become helpful and constructive members of this community, please read over the [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|Welcome to Wikipedia]] page, which explains the purpose and guidelines of wikipedia all in one place. [[User:Zeng8r|Zeng8r]] ([[User talk:Zeng8r|talk]]) 23:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Here is the 3rd Party article that also tells about Petition Drive and lists them both.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=weinreb/090302 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.110.37.7|69.110.37.7]] ([[User talk:69.110.37.7|talk]]) 18:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Good link; the info has been added. [[User:Zeng8r|Zeng8r]] ([[User talk:Zeng8r|talk]]) 19:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
* PIEDMONT high school has Petioned the CIF to study the offense for any team in the state wanting to use it for three seasons, not the creators of the offense doing the petitioning. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.110.37.7|69.110.37.7]] ([[User talk:69.110.37.7|talk]]) 17:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
From the link you provided:
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In the meantime, '''Bryan and Humphries''' are not mandating that other schools adopt their methods; all they are asking for is the freedom to continue to develop their experiment in peace. They recently petitioned the CIF...
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They are the creators of the A-11, and that's who the article says is petitioning the CIF. You have to go by the sources. [[User:Zeng8r|Zeng8r]] ([[User talk:Zeng8r|talk]]) 19:07, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Zeng8r, please read the petition at www.A11Offense.com it is signed by the Piedmont High Principal <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.110.37.7|69.110.37.7]] ([[User talk:69.110.37.7|talk]]) 21:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
'''Legality at various levels''' (This is how your edited post should read regarding high schools using the offense)
'''High School'''
As mentioned, the A-11 offense was designed by a high school coach who used a "loophole" in the rules concerning allowable formations to design an every-down offense. As other schools in the States of, CA, OR, WA, FL, AZ, IL, AL, AR, VA, etc, began using the A-11, others called the system "an unsporting act" and "outside of the spirit of the rule code."[6] Consequently, high school associations in North Carolina, West Virginia, Louisiana, and the District of Columbia banned the use of the A-11 for the 2008 season.[7]
In February 2009, the National Federation of State High School Associations rules committee voted 46-2 to close the loophole allowing the linemen-free formations featured in the A-11. The system's creators have petitioned the California Interscholastic Federation to allow use of the offense over the next three seasons on a experimental basis. No decision has yet been made.[6] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.110.8.207|69.110.8.207]] ([[User talk:69.110.8.207|talk]]) 23:19, 29 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Canadian football ==
:the A-11 offense (which would be more appropriately be known as an "A-12") would be practically useless. This is because it is custom in that variant of the sport for wide receivers to move toward the line of scrimmage to gain momentum, making it obvious to point out which receivers are eligible and which ones aren't (the ones standing on the line of scrimmage would clearly be ineligible, spoiling the element of surprise).
This had been tagged for nine months. If someone can find sources that back this assertion, please reinsert the content. [[User:Hbdragon88|hbdragon88]] ([[User talk:Hbdragon88|talk]]) 23:59, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
== How do you tell which are eligible receivers? ==
The article says "The A-11 still must abide by rules which cap the number of eligible receivers at five (maximum six if the quarterback hands the ball off or laterals to an ineligible receiver who then passes the ball). However, it is unclear which players will be eligible until just before the snap, ... "
For those of us who do not know football well, how is it determined which 5 are eligible receivers? [[Special:Contributions/199.86.18.156|199.86.18.156]] ([[User talk:199.86.18.156|talk]]) 05:13, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's mentioned obliquely in the article that the five (interior) linemen are ineligible. All backs (including the quarterback) and the two players on the ends of the line of scrimmage are eligible. I'm not sure if it's worth spelling out who's eligible a little more. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 05:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:: Yes, please do. I still don't get it. [[User:PSzalapski|Locarno]] ([[User talk:PSzalapski|talk]]) 15:32, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
The concept is difficult to explain to non-football fans without getting into some deep jargon, but I tried to clarify that section a bit more. Feel free to streamline it some more. --[[User:Zeng8r|Zeng8r]] ([[User talk:Zeng8r|talk]]) 23:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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== NFL - contradictory statements ==
The article states that the NFL "imposed an additional rule to discourage teams from placing players with eligible numbers at an ineligible position (Bill Belichick had used such a strategy during select games in the 2014 season); as of the 2015 season, players with eligible numbers must line up in a position that makes it obvious that they are ineligible." So the NFL rule is to ''discourage'' placing players with eligible numbers at ineligible positions. Therefore, as of 2015, the rule states that players with eligible numbers ''must line up'' in an ineligible position. This is obviously contradictory. [[User:Jeff in CA|Jeff in CA]] ([[User talk:Jeff in CA|talk]]) 20:52, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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