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==GA Review==
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: Many thanks. I'll aim to get to any issues you find promptly. There are plenty of alternative sources available if you note any source issues. I've checked extensively but if any have got through the net we can fix them straightforwardly. [[User:Chiswick Chap|Chiswick Chap]] ([[User talk:Chiswick Chap|talk]]) 19:45, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
=== Spot check on sources ===
Based on the way the previous review was concluded, I'm going to be looking at a lot of the sources, especially because of the visibility of this article. List items were initially checked from [[Special:PermanentLink/1214881804|this version]] of the article, those in ''italics'' are from [[Special:PermanentLink/1214984769|this version]].
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* [4] {{Tick}} Links directly to meaning, not etymology, but the information is found quickly and easily.
* [5] {{Tick}}
* ''[14]'' {{Tick}} This one says "age of fish" in the text; does Benson state the Devonian is the "age of fishes"?
* [20] Is this just the diversity of [[Amiiformes]] specifically?
** It's the usual if somewhat archaic phrase, and even zoologists are switching to the more modern form.
* ''[18]'' {{Tick}} "96% of fish species" isn't specifically in the online preview, but this fact is cited enough in other works that I believe it ([16] on [[Teleost]] for example).
* <s>[20] Is this just the diversity of [[Amiiformes]] specifically?</s>
** Yes, removed.
*** I missed that there's a trailing ")" after the spot where this reference was. "tetrapods)" needs correcting.
**** Fixed. You're welcome to fix any minor glitches like that, it's quicker than listing it here.
***** {{Tick}} I wasn't sure if it was meant to be (and the tetrapods).
* [23] {{Tick}} '''Note:''' The preceding (and following) sentence could clarify that the measurement is of the fish's length.
** Added.
* <s>[28] {{Cross}} I can't find any archived version of this that works. If restored, should probably note language is Portuguese.</s>
** Yes, all versions retracted from archive, remarkable. Replaced ref, added a couple of numbers.
*** ''[29]'' {{Tick}}
* [29] {{Tick}}
* ''[33]'' {{Tick}}
* ''[34]'' {{Tick}}
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* ''[50]'' {{Tick}}
* [52] {{Tick}} The reliability of a course page from a single professor at UTK is debatable but it conveys the information pretty clearly.
* [68] {{Tick}} This is a great find.
* [71] {{Tick}} '''Note:''' The Scientific American homepage is also in this reference and is archived for some reason.
** Cited conventionally.
* ''[75]'' {{Tick}}
* ''[77]'' {{Tick}} The formatting on this particular article is... ''shocking''.
* ''[78]'' {{Tick}}
* ''[79]'' {{Tick}}
* ''[82]'' {{Tick}} '''Note:''' Is it useful to include that "the reproductive organs may be fused", or is this a level of depth reserved for further reading?
** Surely it is. Fish reproduction has a mass of exceptions and special cases including hermaphroditism and changing sex; the section is already rather long, too.
* ''[87]'' {{Tick}} This section is difficult to read, but the jargon in the source is even worse to get through (out of necessity for the subject, I guess). Great effort on the translation.
* ''[91]'' {{Tick}} Preview doesn't go as far as when spawning is described, but other sources corroborate facultative schooling to spawn. Most of these other sources indicate that specifically short-term schooling is used to spawn; does it say this in the full text? [[Shoaling and schooling]] has a lot to say about the behavior being linked to traveling to spawning ''locations'', though it also has a lot of citation needed tags.
** Added mention of capelin's annual migration to and from spawning; this is not short-distance.
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* ''[109]'' {{Tick}}
* (3 further checks to be done)
* ''[113], [114]'' {{Tick}} Could be backed up by non-EU sources.
** It could. I'm loth to add yet more sources; the point is adequately supported here.
* ''[119]'' {{Tick}}
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* ''[134]'' {{Tick}}
* <s>''[140]'' {{Cross}} Source looks self-published; may be reliable based on constellation standards, there could be better sources in the article [[Piscis Austrinus]] but I can't access them.</s>
** Not ideal. I've replaced it with a simple statement about the constellation and the Roman myth.
*** {{Tick}} Replacement checks out.
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=== Comments ===
* Two of the citations under <u>Sources</u> are used in the text, but "Nelson, Joseph S. (2006). Fishes of the World" is not. I notice that the 2006 edition is included in this section and the 2016 edition is cited 5 times. Maybe the latter could be changed to sfn citations and the former changed to the later edition? 19:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC) {{Tick}}
** Done.
* It's mentioned that fish at higher trophic levels predate on other fish, which makes sense. Also referred to ("prey") under <u>Digestion</u>. Is there space to point out herbivorous behaviors of fish? {{Tick}}
** Done. Added an image, too.
* I'm about finished with this. Any major statements that aren't in the spot check are sourced to reputable publications or were confirmed at GA1. Otherwise, I feel confident in the overall quality of the sources, not to mention the article as a whole. Just the last source on the constellation is of some concern. There are also a couple researchgate links that look bad, but I think they're fine since the publisher's website doesn't provide the full text. [[User:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#6BAD2D">Recon</span>]][[User talk:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#2F3833">rabbit</span>]] 16:11, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
** Researchgate is just where authors can choose to release a copy of their already-published work so people can easily access it. [[User:Chiswick Chap|Chiswick Chap]] ([[User talk:Chiswick Chap|talk]]) 16:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 
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