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| caption = Joe as he appeared in 2005
| creator = Ray Kolle
| introducer = [[Don Battye]] (1988)<br>Ric Pellizzeri (2005)<br>[[Jason Herbison]] (2022)
| first = 8 August{{start date|1988|08|08|df=y}}
| last = 23{{end November 2005date|2022|07|28|df=y}}
| years = 1988–1991, 2005, 2022
| classification = [[List of former Neighbours characters#M|Former; regular]]
| born = 1963
| occupation = Gardener<br>Construction worker<br>Handyman
| home = [[Port Douglas]]
| father = [[Len Mangel]]
| mother = [[Nell Mangel]]
| sisters = [[Amanda Harris (Neighbours)|Amanda Harris]]
| wife = [[Noeline Mangel]] (backstory)<br />[[Kerry Bishop]] (1989–1990)<br />{{nowrap|[[Melanie Pearson]] (1991–19941991–; divorced)}}
| born alias = 1963Walter Joseph Mangel
| sons = [[Toby Mangel]]
| adoptivedaughters = [[Sky Mangel]]
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| aunts = Isabelle
| image2 = File:Joe Mangel.jpg
| imagesize2 = 200px200
| caption2 = Joe as he appeared in his early years (1989)
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''' Walter Joseph "Joe" Mangel''' <!-- Joe's birthname was revealed as Walter Joseph Mangel in episode 784 --> is a fictional character from the Australian [[Network Ten]] soap opera ''[[Neighbours]]'', played by [[Mark Little (Australian actor)|Mark Little]]. He debuted on-screen in the episode airing on 8 August 1988. LittleJoe laterleft departedin the1991 serialwhen andLittle Joedeparted leftthe in 1991serial. In 2005 Little agreed to reprise the role as part of ''Neighbours''<nowiki>'</nowiki> twentieth anniversary celebrations and remained for four months. Joe's storylines included his bad relationship with his mother, being widowed, life as a single parent and a custody battle to keep his child. Joe is deemed a stereotype Australian man and a likable rogue character. Little returned to ''Neighbours'' in 2022 to celebrate the show's [[Episode 8903|final episode]].
 
==Casting==
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On Joe's arrival it became apparent that he was nothing like his mother [[Nell Mangel]] ([[Vivean Gray]]).<ref name="book">{{cite book|last=Monroe|first=Josephine|title=Neighbours: the first 10 years|year=1996|publisher=[[Penguin Group|Michael Joseph LTD (Penguin Group)]]|isbn=0-7181-4212-8|pages=[https://archive.org/details/neighboursfirst10000monr/page/79 79, 80]|url=https://archive.org/details/neighboursfirst10000monr/page/79|access-date=27 June 2010}}</ref> Joe has been described as an "unreconstructed oaf who likes drinking beer", he is green fingered and loves gardening and also acts brutish.<ref name="book"/> He also has a love for betting and likes to keep up with the [[status quo]].<ref name="book"/> Many of Joe's traits annoyed other residents, with Nell and [[Dorothy Burke]] ([[Maggie Dence]]) constantly trying to make Joe behave himself and change his ways. He would often clash with his niece [[Jane Harris (Neighbours)|Jane Harris]] ([[Annie Jones (actress)|Annie Jones]]) who also hated Joe's love for loud music, football and beer drinking.<ref name="book"/> When his son [[Toby Mangel|Toby]] ([[Ben Guerens]]) came to live with him he had a hard time adjusting to fatherhood and saw it as a chore at first, later he began to realise Toby's clever potential, he became proud and transformed into a good father.<ref name="book"/> Through his relationship with [[Kerry Bishop]] ([[Linda Hartley-Clark]]), Joe was portrayed as being the complete opposite of her, he remained acting out his blunt and sometimes selfish ways, however, he truly loved her.<ref name="book"/>
 
Little has branded Joe as a "massive character" within the serial, also stating that viewers still have enormous affection for him due to his storylines.<ref name="scots"/> In an interview with the newspaper ''[[Derby Telegraph]]'', Little described his persona and links to the British public stating: "He was a single dad, struggling to get along, a bit of a battler. He appealed to the English psyche and became a bit of a folk hero".<ref name="derby"/> He also spoke about Joe still representing the old Australian archetype when he returned in 2005.<ref name="derby"/> Little described this change stating: "Joe is like one of a dying breed – I don't know if there are really too many Joe Mangels left. He was a genuine, easy bloke that is dying out. He knew the language. He could have been one of the last Australians!"<ref name="old">{{cite web|title=Joe Mangel will never leave me|url=http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/lifestyle/culture_2_1843/joe_mangel_will_never_leave_me_1_69881|work=[[Peterborough Evening Telegraph]]|publisher=([[Johnston Press]])|access-date=27 June 2010|date=27 June 2010 |archive-url=https://wwwweb.webcitationarchive.org/5vwXDyGPk?url=web/20120523183316/http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/lifestyle/culture_2_1843/joe_mangel_will_never_leave_me_1_69881|url-status=live|archive-date=23 JanuaryMay 20112012}}</ref>
 
===Departure and returnreturns===
In 1991, Little decided to quit the serial when his contract came up for renewal. Network Ten told ''[[TV Week]]'' that "Mark has been with the show since June 1988 and I think he feels it's time to move on. As with any ongoing drama, it's the nature of the production."<ref>{{cite journal|title=It's time to move on|journal=[[TV Week]]|date=4–10 May 1991|publisher=[[ACP Magazines]]}}</ref> Little suffered with [[typecasting (acting)|typecasting]] after his departure from the show. He commented, "Joe Mangel was my creation and he rather ungallantly went about stealing my identity in a bizarre case of metaphysical identity theft."<ref name="Identity"/>
 
In 2005, Little agreed to reprise his role as Joe in a four-month guest capacity, as part of ''Neighbours<nowiki>'</nowiki>'' twentieth anniversary celebrations.<ref name="derby">{{cite web|title='Joe Mangel' now true Brit|url=http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Joe-Mangel-true-Brit/article-1963772-detail/article.html|work=[[Derby Telegraph]]|publisher=([[Northcliffe Media]])|access-date=27 June 2010|date=2 April 2010 |archive-url=https://wwwweb.webcitationarchive.org/5vwXKlZOT?url=web/20120616050705/http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Joe-Mangel-true-Brit/article-1963772-detail/article.html|url-status=dead|archive-date=2316 JanuaryJune 20112012}}</ref> Little said that he was not sure if it was a mistake as he felt that Joe no longer fitted in because of Australia's change in culture.<ref name="derby"/> The character had changed and Little believed Joe living in the countryside contributed to this. Once "a very suburban" character Joe returns as a "bushie" after living on a cattle station. He added that his character does not blend back into his former lifestyle.<ref>{{cite journal|title=A little different|journal=[[Inside Soap]]|date=21–27 May 2005|issue=20|pages=13|publisher=[[Hachette Filipacchi UK]]}}</ref> In 2008, Little said it was unlikely he would ever return to the show again, describing Joe as "just a fond memory".<ref>{{cite web|last=Kilkelly|first=Daniel|title=Little rules out Ramsay Street return|url=http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s14/neighbours/news/a133687/little-rules-out-ramsay-street-return.html|work=[[Digital Spy]]|publisher=([[Hachette Filipacchi Médias|Hachette Filipacchi UK]])|access-date=26 June 2010|date=25 October 2008}}</ref> In 2010, former co-star [[Janet Andrewartha]] (who plays [[Lyn Scully]]) called for Joe to return for Lyn, also wanting to work with Little again.<ref>{{cite web|last=Kilkelly|first=Daniel|title='Neighbours' Lyn 'wants Joe Mangel back'|url=http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s14/neighbours/news/a204760/neighbours-lyn-wants-joe-mangel-back.html|work=[[Digital Spy]]|publisher=([[Hachette Filipacchi Médias|Hachette Filipacchi UK]])|access-date=26 June 2010|date=23 February 2010}}</ref> However, Little gave confirmation that he would not return again because he felt that Joe has "had his time".<ref name="scots">{{cite web|last=Flockhart|first=Gary|title=Interview: Mark Little, former Neighbours star|url=http://living.scotsman.com/comedy/Interview-Mark-Little-former-Neighbours.6150129.jp|work=[[The Scotsman]]|publisher=([[Johnston Press]])|access-date=27 June 2010|date=12 March 2010 |archive-url=https://wwwweb.webcitationarchive.org/5vwXI7ZWj?url=web/20100325120746/http://living.scotsman.com/comedy/Interview-Mark-Little-former-Neighbours.6150129.jp|url-status=live|archive-date=2325 JanuaryMarch 20112010}}</ref>
 
On 7 May 2022, Dan Seddon of Digital Spy announced Little had reprised the role for the final episodes of ''Neighbours'' following its cancellation.<ref name="Seddon">{{cite web|url=https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/neighbours/a39933926/neighbours-final-episodes-23-returnees/|title=Neighbours officially announces 23 returnees for final ever episodes|last=Seddon|first=Dan|date=7 May 2022|publisher=[[Digital Spy]]|access-date=7 May 2022}}</ref> Joe was one of numerous characters reintroduced for the show's end. The "most memorable characters" from each decade were chosen to return and [[executive producer]] [[Jason Herbison]] explained that it ensured there was "something for everyone as Neighbours draws to a close."<ref name="Seddon"/> The character's return scene airs on 15 July in the UK and 21 July 2022 in Australia.<ref>{{cite magazine|date=9–15 July 2022|title=What Happens When?|magazine=[[Inside Soap]]|issue=28|page=31}}</ref> Joe's former father-in-law [[Harold Bishop]] ([[Ian Smith (actor)|Ian Smith]]) contacts him via a video call to ask about his relationship with Melanie, who is now engaged to [[Toadfish Rebecchi]] ([[Ryan Moloney]]).<ref name="Julians">{{cite web|url=https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/neighbours/a40496653/neighbours-joe-mangel-return-scenes-melanie-engagement/|title=Neighbours to air Joe Mangel return scenes after Melanie's engagement|last=Julians|first=Joe|date=4 July 2022|publisher=[[Digital Spy]]|access-date=5 July 2022}}</ref> Harold is worried that Melanie will hurt Toadie's children, like he believes she did Toby and Sky when she left. However, Joe admits that he twisted the truth about her behaviour and that he and the children were lucky to have her around.<ref name="Julians"/>
==Storylines==
 
==Storylines==
===Backstory===
Joe was the youngest child of Nell and [[Len Mangel]] ([[John Lee (Australian actor)|John Lee]]). In contrast to his studious sister, [[Amanda Harris (Neighbours)|Amanda]] ([[Briony Behets]]), Joe was laid back and roguish and often disappointed his mother. Joe and Nell's relationship fell apart when Nell found a gun and immediately assumed Joe was involved in a hold-up on a local service station. Joe left home and moved to Darwin and later fell in love with and married [[Noeline Mangel|Noeline]] (Lindy McConchie). They had a son called Toby. Joe could not cope with the financial burden of a family and left when Toby was three.
 
===1988–20051988–2022===
While metal detecting, [[Henry Ramsay (Neighbours)|Henry Ramsay]] ([[Craig McLachlan]]) finds a pistol buried in the back yard of Number 32 Ramsay Street. Joe's niece, Jane, who lives there with her grandmother, Nell, asks about the gun. Nell tells her the gun belongs to Joe. Jane, with the help of Henry goes to track Joe down and they find him in Erinsborough. On their first meeting, Joe initially mistakes Jane and Henry for salespeople and slams the door on them. Jane refuses to give up and eventually Joe agrees to see Nell after years of estrangement once the gun was mentioned. The gun issue is resolved but Nell and Joe's relationship takes a while to develop. Joe eventually moves in with his mother.
 
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Joe returns to Erinsborough on the eve of Sky's (now played by [[Stephanie McIntosh]]) 18th birthday and stays for several months. He has many clashes with [[Janelle Timmins]] ([[Nell Feeney]]) and his former-in-laws, the Bishops. Joe becomes romantically involved with [[Lyn Scully]]. Lyn's eldest daughter, [[Stephanie Scully|Stephanie]] ([[Carla Bonner]]) resents this union, but comes around. Joe proves to be a great support to Harold and Sky after [[David Bishop (Neighbours)|David]] ([[Kevin Harrington (actor)|Kevin Harrington]]), [[Liljana Bishop|Liljana]] ([[Marcella Russo]]) and [[Serena Bishop|Serena]] ([[Lara Sacher]]) die in a plane crash above [[Bass Strait]]. Joe and Lyn announce their engagement but it is cut short when Toby phones from Western Australia needing help on his farm. Joe is reluctant to leave, but Lyn persuades him to go and help his son. Joe then leaves town after saying goodbye to Sky. In 2018, Joe telephones Jane to inform her that Nell has died.
 
17 years later, Joe speaks to Harold on a video call and explains that Melanie, who is marrying Toadie, was a good step mum to Sky and Toby. Joe tells Harold that he and Melanie broke up around his and Kerry's anniversary and he twisted the truth in anger. Joe explains that Sky and Toby stopped talking about Melanie in fear of being yelled at, however at Christmas, they explained how good of a step mum she was. Joe then fist bumps Harold through the screen before hanging up. Joe later sends Toadie and Melanie a video call, congratulating them after their wedding and telling Melanie that he wishes her all the best.
 
==Reception==
In 2010 to celebrate ''Neighbours<nowiki>'</nowiki>'' 25th anniversary ''[[British Sky Broadcasting|Sky]]'', a British [[satellite broadcasting|satellite broadcasting company]] profiled 25 characters who they believed were the most memorable in the series history.<ref name="a">{{cite news|url=http://tv.sky.com/neighbours |title=Neighbours: 25 Top Characters |publisher=[[British Sky Broadcasting|Sky]] |year=2010 |access-date=26 April 2010 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100323092809/http://tv.sky.com/neighbours |archive-date=23 March 2010 }}</ref> Joe is in the list and describing him they brand him as the series' first 'easygoing Aussie' to be featured, stating: "For an Australian soap, Neighbours has surprisingly few blokey blokes. Perhaps that's because few were going to out-bloke Joe Mangel after he left – with a stubby in hand and probably some shrimp on the barbie, Joe was the originally easygoing Aussie. That provided a useful breath of fresh air to all the grown-ups who've tried to make him behave himself over the years, including nan Mrs Mangel, guardian of his son Dorothy, and father-in-law Harold. While not exactly dependable, he stayed on hand to support step-daughter Sky after the plane crash of 2005."<ref name="a"/> Editor of [[MSN|MSN TV]], Lorna Cooper branded Joe as one of the legendary characters of the series, despite his short duration.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://tv.uk.msn.com/photos/photos.aspx?cp-documentid=149729015&page=35|title=TV's Neighbours: where are they now?|publisher=[[MSN]]|author=Cooper, Lorna|date=17 March 2010|access-date=27 June 2010|archive-url=https://wwwweb.webcitationarchive.org/5vwX2EQK1?url=web/20110714131112/http://tv.uk.msn.com/photos/photos.aspx?cp-documentid=149729015&page=35|url-status=dead|archive-date=2314 JanuaryJuly 2011}}</ref> Tony Squires from ''[[The Sydney Morning Herald]]'' believed that producers should have better developed the on-screen partnership between Joe and Des, commenting "still, shove Des and Joe together and you have something."<ref>{{cite web |last1=Squires |first1=Tony |title=Guide preview - Neighbours |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50684934/guide-preview-neighbours/ |website=[[The Sydney Morning Herald]] |access-date=26 May 2020 |date=31 December 1990|via=[[Newspapers.com]]}}{{free access}}</ref>
 
Joe became popular in the UK due to his personality.<ref name="derby"/> The ''[[Peterborough Evening Telegraph]]'' brand Joe as the serial's "likeable rogue".<ref name="old"/> Each of the ''[[Daily Mirror]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s columnists were asked to choose their favourite soap opera character, Polly Hudson chose Joe. She cited his "Funny, sweet and ute-obsessed" personality and the comedy moments he provided as her reasons for choosing him.<ref>{{cite web|last=Hudson|first=Polly|title=Vote for your favourite soap star in the new Mirror Soap Awards|url=https://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/08/03/vote-for-your-favourite-soap-star-in-the-new-mirror-soap-awards-115875-21566830/|work=[[Daily Mirror]]|publisher=([[Trinity Mirror]])|access-date=27 June 2010|date=3 August 2009 |archive-url=https://wwwweb.webcitationarchive.org/5vwWyyyFG?url=web/20110213071224/http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/08/03/vote-for-your-favourite-soap-star-in-the-new-mirror-soap-awards-115875-21566830/|url-status=live|archive-date=2313 JanuaryFebruary 2011}}</ref> [[Orange UK]] agree with Joe's loveable larrikin status adding it was his style and state he is famous for his relationship with Bouncer, referring to it as touching.<ref name=ora>{{cite web|title=Neighbours stars – where are they now?|url=http://www.orange.co.uk/entertainment/television/pics/2345_3.htm|work=[[Orange UK]]|publisher=([[Orange (telecommunications)|Orange]])|access-date=23 January 2011 |archive-url=https://wwwweb.webcitationarchive.org/5vwWHcd3u?url=web/20110930212400/http://www.orange.co.uk/entertainment/television/pics/2345_3.htm|url-status=live|archive-date=2330 JanuarySeptember 2011}}</ref> Sue Heath from ''[[The Northern Echo]]'' said that commented on his return, opining that he "waltzed back into Erinsborough with a cheery 'Good day, chuck' as though he'd never been away"<ref>{{cite web|last=Heath|first=Sue|title=Neighbours (BBC 1)|url=http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/archive/2005/10/19/The+North+East+Archive/7147827.On_TV/|work=[[The Northern Echo]]|publisher=([[Newsquest]])|access-date=5 December 2011|date=19 October 2005}}</ref> Joe was placed at number thirty-three on the ''[[HuffPost|Huffpost's]]'' "35 greatest Neighbours characters of all time" feature.<ref name=huff1>{{cite web |last1=Beresford |first1=Adam |title=The Definitive Ranking Of The 35 Greatest Neighbours Characters Of All Time: #35-21 |url=https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/neighbours-greatest-characters-all-time-35-21_uk_5e6f709ec5b6bd8156fbdc02 |website=[[HuffPost]] |access-date=19 March 2022 |date=16 March 2020}}</ref> Journalist Adam Beresford described him as a "true blue Aussie bloke" who was the "polar opposite of his uptight estranged mother". He added that Joe was a "unreconstructed beer lover" who "ramped up the comedy element" of the show.<ref name=huff1/> A ''[[Herald Sun]]'' reporter included Joe and Kerry's wedding in their "Neighbours' 30 most memorable moments" feature and assessed that they were "were polar opposites but they were married in the butterfly enclosure at Melbourne Zoo."<ref>{{cite news|url=https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/A404194093/STND?u=wikipedia&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=8eb6037c|title=Neighbours' 30 most memorable moments|date=7 March 2015|work=[[Herald Sun]]|access-date=10 May 2024|via=[[Gale (publisher)|Gale]]|url-access=subscription}}</ref>
 
==References==