Talk:FAMAS: Difference between revisions

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:AFAIK, there's no plan to make a 7.62mm version of the FAMAS. Current improvement plans are the FÉLIN system. However, Kel-Tec has recently (Q1 2007) introduced their 7.62x51mm RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup) semi-auto rifle. [[User:Breversa|breversa]] 15:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

 

== Object ==

:You'll have to make quite the case that somebody typing FAMAS in the English version of Wikipedia is really looking for an obscure Filipino organization. --[[User:Asams10|Asams10]] ([[User talk:Asams10|talk]]) 22:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

 

:::(Chuckles) As Asams eloquently put it, you'd have to make one hell of a case. [[User:Koalorka|Koalorka]] ([[User talk:Koalorka|talk]]) 22:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

 

::::Asams - let's review the situation: (1) Wikipedia now has ''another'' article about something that is sometimes referred to as "FAMAS"; (2) it's possible that some readers will type "FAMAS" into the search engine looking for that other entity; (3) those other readers will arrive at this article, and should be sent elsewhere; (4) the otheruses1 template does exactly that; (5) the template is NOT an advertisement for that other article (the otheruses4 template arguably was, and I support its removal); (6) if readers coming to the article who are in fact looking for info on the assault rifle decide to check out the disambiguation page, so be it. That's one of the neat things about Wikipedia - that readers learn about other things.

 

 

:::::John, please read [[WP:HAT]] first. Now, FAMAS is a French language acronym that is the only term used to describe a noteable rifle and has worldwide notability. FAMAS is also a Tagalog language acronym that has reigonal notoriety and is not commonly used in the English language nor is it notable in the English language. The example of [[War]] having a disambiguation link at the top for [[War (band)]] is excellent, but a more appropriate example might be [[AK-47]] having an inappropriate disambiguation link to some basketball player. The person that added it in the first place roams Wikipedia creating links from English WP articles to Tagalog articles and that is the appropriate way of doing things. This is inappropriate. --[[User:Asams10|Asams10]] ([[User talk:Asams10|talk]]) 00:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

 

::It is perfectly plausible that someone comes to Wikipedia looking for the film awards and end up on the rifle article, why must we make it so difficult for these users and exclude them??? IMDB has an entire section titled "FAMAS Awards" ([http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/FAMAS_Awards/]). Google search results can't always be used as evidence, but since it's been mentioned already, "FAMAS Awards" yields twice as many results (349k) as "FAMAS Rifle" (118k) and a case could very well be made that the rifle term is in fact the more obscure of the two! — [[User:Deon Steyn|Deon Steyn]] ([[User talk:Deon Steyn|talk]]) 06:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

 

:IMDB also has an article on [[Howard the Duck]] but does that justify a disambig comment under the [[Duck]] article? --[[Special:Contributions/132.22.254.237|132.22.254.237]] ([[User talk:132.22.254.237|talk]]) 13:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:::To summarize again: (a) a number of experienced editors have now commented that "FAMAS" is in fact a common acronym for the movie awards; (b) the otheruses1 template at the top of the article is not the "advertisement" that was originally in place (otheruses4); rather, it's a simple pointer to a disambiguation page; (c) what the editor who posted the otheruses template does or doesn't do with regard to other articles is irrelevant to this one; in any case, what is here ''isn't'' what the editor started out with (an otheruses4 template that specifically mentioned the other article); (d) even if the otheruses template only helps a few editors, it doesn't interfere with readers of this article, so the downside of having it is minimal; this really shouldn't be a big deal, and we've probably spent enough time debating it. Much more, and this starts being a candidate for [[WP:LAME]].

 

 

BonesBrigade, you clearly did not read my full post: "FAMAS Awards" yields twice as many google results as "FAMAS Rifle". Anonymous user, the cartoon character is unlikely to be confused with the animal, the FAMAS articles however share an '''identical''' acronym. Your argument is a type of [[informal fallacy]] known as [[false analogy]]: you propose a relationship between the two sets articles and falsely conclude that they must share other properties. — [[User:Deon Steyn|Deon Steyn]] ([[User talk:Deon Steyn|talk]]) 22:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== unsourced statements ==

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