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== Semi-protected edit request on 718 AprilJuly 20232024 ==
== Infobox bloat ==
 
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There is a back and forth going on here over some infobox parameters. Blank parameters are being used to add information which was removed: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chicago&diff=1134560181&oldid=1134555117], restored: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chicago&diff=1134565651&oldid=1134560181], removed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chicago&diff=1134580260&oldid=1134565651], restored: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chicago&diff=1134658130&oldid=1134607649], removed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chicago&diff=1134667291&oldid=1134607649], restored: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chicago&diff=1134667291&oldid=1134607649]. So far 3 editors have been involved in removing material, 2 have restored, but there is no talk discussion yet, so I am starting this section.
Replace "Most of Chicago's foreign-born population were born in Mexico, Poland or India." with "Most of Chicago's foreign-born population were born in Mexico, China, Poland, the Philippines or India."<ref>Most of Chicago's foreign-born population were born in Mexico, Poland or India.</ref> [[User:Dimmysum|Dimmysum]] ([[User talk:Dimmysum|talk]]) 03:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Left guide|Left guide]] ([[User talk:Left guide|talk]]) 03:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 
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There is a clear rationale for deleting these parameters, which is [[WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE]] which says of the infobox: {{tq|The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.}} Wikipedia is not a directory, and so the purpose of the infobox is to provide some key facts about the city, especially names, location and such like. These all have parameters coded into the template that can be used. The absence of transit parameters is very good evidence that the community consensus is that transit parameters are not key information about the city that needs to be summarised in the infobox. The argument (made in an edit summary) that these are standard in city articles is incorrect. There is no standard for such information, and although some city articles have these, many do not.
 
== Minimum Wage ==
What happens on this page will depend on the editor consensus here, but it would be very helpful if we could discuss the pros and cons here rather than in revert edit summaries. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 18:32, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 
The article says that Chicago has a high minimum wage at $15 per hour, though the minimum wage is now $16.20 as of July 1st 2024.
:You well know there is an ongoing discussion about these parameters at [[WT:MOSINFOBOX]]. Leave these in place until that discussion plays out. Being they've been in the article for years before the recent removal.
:for what it's worth, I'm of the opinion that anything that has an entire separate
:section in the article is worthy of some sort of summarizing mention in the infobox, being that the purpose of an infobox is to summarize the article. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 22:29, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
::I do know there is a general discussion going on there, and a fairly snowy consensus that this information is undue in infoboxes, but the edit warring is here, which is why there should be a talk discussion here as I have indicated. Infoboxes are for key facts, not for a summary of the whole article. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 08:05, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::And a major city's international airports and rapid transit system are key facts about that city. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 15:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::::Which is an opinion, yet apparently not one that has thus far enjoyed any consensus on wikipedia, because the infobox has no parameter for them. On what basis do you assert these are key facts? Shouldn't we have an RFC requesting infobox parameters for these if they are key facts? [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 23:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 
== Picture of Milwaukee used as picture of Chicago in article ==
 
I'm new to editing on Wikipedia, but there is a night-time image claimed to be of Chicago in this article that is actually of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a pretty terrible error for such an important page.
 
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If you check the satellite view of both Chicago and Milwaukee, it becomes clear that the picture is not of Chicago. I would highly recommend changing this. [[User:Banana Peel Seal|Banana Peel Seal]] ([[User talk:Banana Peel Seal|talk]]) 18:25, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 
:Lmao. Good catch. [[User:Ɱ|<span style="text-shadow:#bbb 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;" class="texhtml">'''ɱ'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ɱ|(talk)]] 18:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 
== Use of ACS Population Data for 2021 ==
 
Noticed that the 2021 estimated population from the American Community surveys is there. ACS data tends to be incredibly inaccurate when it comes to estimating population. I've actually gone ahead and plotted out how the ACS compares to the census from 2010 to 2021 on a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1krCbIU-XflvSudmDcMGZ4iIWvd5RKGCBi9x7BPZg2KY/edit?usp=sharing google sheet] to show off how inaccurate it is. Pretty much without fail for any large city in the US, the ACS either shoots up or down in the mid 2010s. We might want to remove this 2021 population estimate as it ''probably'' isn't accurate. [[User:Piemadd|Piemadd]] ([[User talk:Piemadd|talk]]) 19:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2023 ==
 
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Prominent food companies based in Chicago include the world headquarters of Conagra, Ferrara Candy Company, Kraft Heinz, McDonald's, Mondelez International, Quaker Oats, and US Foods.[citation needed]
 
[https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/bacp/supp_info/minimumwageinformation.html#:~:text=Starting%20July%201%2C%202024%20the,with%204%20or%20more%20workers. https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/bacp/supp_info/minimumwageinformation.html#:~:text=Starting%20July%201%2C%202024%20the,with%204%20or%20more%20workers.]
In the economy section it states that the company US Foods headquarters are located in Chicago. The company US Foods headquarters are actually located in Rosemont Illinois https://www.usfoods.com/locations/headquarters.html therefore US foods should be removed from the list [[User:TemporaryCake|TemporaryCake]] ([[User talk:TemporaryCake|talk]]) 00:42, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 
[https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/29/chicagos-minimum-wage-goes-up/#:~:text=What%20is%20Chicago's%20minimum%20wage,to%20a%20lower%20minimum%20wage. https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/06/29/chicagos-minimum-wage-goes-up/#:~:text=What%20is%20Chicago's%20minimum%20wage,to%20a%20lower%20minimum%20wage.] [[User:Maddux37|Maddux37]] ([[User talk:Maddux37|talk]]) 05:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{done|Removed}} [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 07:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 
== Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2024 ==
== Map of Chicago ==
 
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Does anyone know how to edit the outline of the City of Chicago on the map so that Norridge and Harwood Heights appear as an Enclave of the city? [[User:NintendoTTTEfan2005|NintendoTTTEfan2005]] ([[User talk:NintendoTTTEfan2005|talk]]) 06:28, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{done|Removed}} [[User:TollensSSaleh400|TollensSSaleh400]] ([[User talk:TollensSSaleh400|talk]]) 0722:4806, 727 AprilAugust 20232024 (UTC)
According to a guide published by Level Up Limo, Chicago is depicted as a destination with a diverse array of attractions, ranging from the iconic Millennium Park and Navy Pier to the bustling shopping district of The Magnificent Mile. The guide also highlights the cultural vibrancy of neighborhoods such as Wicker Park and Bucktown, known for their artistic communities and eclectic dining scenes. The publication reflects Chicago’s broad appeal to tourists, catering to a variety of interests and experiences 1.<ref><ref>== References ==
* "Chicago Tour and Vacation Guide," Level Up Limo, [https://leveluplimo.com/chicago-tour-and-vacation-guide/](https://leveluplimo.com/chicago-tour-and-vacation-guide/). Accessed August 27, 2024.
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Per [[WP:NOTPROMO]]. The language is unencyclopedic and the source is basically an advertisement, not a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. [[User:Jamedeus|Jamedeus]] ([[User talk:Jamedeus|talk]]) 23:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
 
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== NASCAR ==
 
WhatHow about the upcoming June 1-2 Nascar steet races? I know my post was deleted, but... Anyhow, I thinkcan it'si notableget enoughpermission to be included in this article? The page is protected, so I can't add it.install [[Special:Contributions/104197.187221.66255.10481|104197.187221.66255.10481]] ([[User talk:104197.187221.66255.10481|talk]]) 21:05:07, 2028 JuneSeptember 20232024 (UTC)
 
:Thank you for contributing, but I believe there's been some confusion about the purpose of this page. This is a "Talk" page, which is specifically intended for discussions related to improving the content of the article. It’s not meant for general commentary, unrelated topics, or personal opinions.
:Well, if you can give citations to reliable sources, then I'd say it should added. But I think it would be better if it is mentioned as something like an annual event that occurs. But I am not completely sure, as I am relatively mediocre when it comes to editing skills. [[User:NintendoTTTEfan2005|NintendoTTTEfan2005]] ([[User talk:NintendoTTTEfan2005|talk]]) 21:17, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
:Please feel free to ask questions if you need assistance. — [[User:Ddxfx|Ddxfx]] ([[User talk:Ddxfx|talk]]) 05:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:I have no idea if anyone can help you with that. You may want to try to explain your situation and what think you need at [[WP:HELPDESK]] or especially if you are new, [[Wikipedia:Teahouse]]. [[User:Alanscottwalker|Alanscottwalker]] ([[User talk:Alanscottwalker|talk]]) 14:07, 28 September 2024 (UTC)