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The terrible documents written by murderous Germans who acted in Babi Yar can be written in the book “The good old days” by Ernst Klee and others.
 
== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 September 2024 ==
== bullet archaeology ==
 
I read that a Christian priest started a project of searching for bullets, since the Germans had a policy of 1 bullet per Jew, and so was able to determine in various small and unrecorded locations throughout Poland where and how many Jews were murdered. Has anything like this been done or planned in Babi Yar? [[User:Pashute|פשוט pashute ♫]] ([[User talk:Pashute|talk]]) 19:29, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 
== Requested move 29 September 2023 ==
 
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[[:Babi Yar]] → {{no redirect|Babyn Yar}} – Babyn Yar is located in Ukraine, a country which in recent years and for obvious reasons has consistently sought to prioritize the use of Ukrainian for place names, rather than Russian. I note that Babyn Yar is located near [[Kyiv]], and that Kyiv is the primary name for that page, not Kiev, which is a redirect. I therefore respectfully ask that this page be renamed to Babyn Yar, and Babi Yar be turned into a redirect. [[User:TallNapoleon|TallNapoleon]] ([[User talk:TallNapoleon|talk]]) 23:56, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. The Russian transliteration would be "Baby Yar" or "Babiy Yar". [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk|talk]]) 00:11, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 
<s>:Why do we have to acquiesce to the revisionism of Ukrainian nationalists - especially on articles such as this?!
:Kiev is the long established English spelling; using it is no more partisan than calling Moscow Moscow.
:The traditional English spelling and pronunciation sound nothing like the Russian or Ukrainian pronunciations.
:Ironically, the new, affected pronunciation of "Keev" is more similar to the Russian than the Ukrainian anyway!
:Pathetic and dishonourable. [[Special:Contributions/2.29.203.33|2.29.203.33]] ([[User talk:2.29.203.33|talk]]) 11:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</s> Strike as off topic (Kiev is a different article). [[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 00:02, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' ''Babi Yar'' is how contemporary Kyiv Jews said it. Stop trying to erase the Holocaust! [[Special:Contributions/142.126.146.27|142.126.146.27]] ([[User talk:142.126.146.27|talk]]) 17:32, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
*: Must be disregarded per [[WP:RUSUKR]]--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 08:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 
:'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Babi+Yar%2CBabyn+Yar&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019 Ngram data] shows that "Babi Yar" is more widely used in sources. Looking at the references listed in the article, it seems the majority of them use this transliteration. — [[User talk:MaterialWorks|<span style="color:#00008b">Material</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MaterialWorks|<span style="color:darkslategray">Works</span>]] 17:42, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' per COMMONNAME.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 16:50, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': [[WP:COMMONNAME]]; Google Ngrams shows that usage of the current name far exceeds that of the proposed alternative. —[[User:CurryTime7-24|CurryTime7-24]] ([[User talk:CurryTime7-24|talk]]) 18:14, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Don't acquiesce to Nazis, especially when talking about their crimes<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:82.21.187.17|82.21.187.17]] ([[User talk:82.21.187.17#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.21.187.17|contribs]]) </small>
*: Must be disregarded as invalid and per [[WP:RUSUKR]]--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 08:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 12:48, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 
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== Samchuk ==
Add oxorror comma. [[Special:Contributions/64.189.18.39|64.189.18.39]] ([[User talk:64.189.18.39|talk]]) 05:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{notdone}} Your request is unclear. If you mean "Oxford comma", please specify where (and why). [[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 14:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
 
== Babi Yar Park in Denver, Colorado ==
I added this part in the article[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Babi_Yar&diff=1178269899&oldid=1178205642] but I think a new section is needed. Maybe "Legacy" or "Controversies"? [[User:Mhorg|Mhorg]] ([[User talk:Mhorg|talk]]) 16:21, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 
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::You are right. I'm moving the text to the Samchuk article for now. [[User:Mhorg|Mhorg]] ([[User talk:Mhorg|talk]]) 17:18, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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