Talk:Keep Sydney Open: Difference between revisions

* '''Oppose.''' (This is on the basis that the formal name change ''does'' in fact get accepted and formalised, as Jm25 notes; if it does not, or while it is still pending, this is a [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] situation in any case.) While in general I agree with renaming parties when formally renamed (and would support, for example, the PEP move when it occurs), this is a complete shift away from the original party's entire reason for existence, is highly unlikely to involve many of the same people or be seen by the public as the same organisation, and I think just gets confusing. I would be inclined to move this back to Keep Sydney Open (as Jm25 said, the name when they were most notable) and create a new article for ESI which acknowledges the link. [[User:The Drover's Wife|The Drover's Wife]] ([[User talk:The Drover's Wife|talk]]) 11:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

** Ideological shift does not indicate that a party is no longer the same entity. The most obvious example of this is the United States Democratic Party, which no longer stands for the values of Jacksonian democracy. What matters is continuity. [https://www.smh.com.au/national/keep-sydney-open-closes-to-be-rebuilt-with-an-architectural-bent-20221211-p5c5f7.html Tyson Koh is still one of the driving forces behind the party]. The Electoral Commission would have rejected the name change if it considered it a completely new party. --[[User:DilatoryRevolution|DilatoryRevolution]] ([[User talk:DilatoryRevolution|talk]]) 07:32, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

'''Comment''': Please note that the [https://elections.nsw.gov.au/funding-and-disclosure/public-register-and-lists/register-of-parties/state-register-of-parties name change has now proceeded].--[[User:DilatoryRevolution|DilatoryRevolution]] ([[User talk:DilatoryRevolution|talk]]) 07:32, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

* '''Oppose'''. KSO was a very different party. Agreed with Drover that this page should be changed back to Keep Sydney Open as they never contested as The Open Party. There should be a section mentioning it's renaming, but disagree with new article for ESI, there should just be a link to [[Elizabeth Farrelly]] rather than a party. Wikipedia generally doesn't make dedicated party pages for independents, even though they often run within "parties" just to get their name on the ballot. [[User:Catiline52|Catiline52]] ([[User talk:Catiline52|talk]]) 08:19, 24 December 2022 (UTC)