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:'''[[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes|Dispute resolution clause]]:''' By posting on my user talk page, you agree to resolve all disputes that may arise from your interactions with me through the dispute resolution processes offered within the Wikipedia Community. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</font>]]
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:Cheers! '''''[[User:BD2412|<font style="background: gold">BD2412</font>]]'''''
 
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:'''Talk page archives'''
I have divided my archived pages by topic, rather than by date:
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - Law]] the law, or articles on law-related topics (cases, doctrines, judges, professors, etc).
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - Articles]] all other Wikipedia articles.
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - Deletion]] AfD votes, policies, and mechanics.
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - RfA]] Requests for Administration and Requests for Comment.
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - Tools]] Wikitools (templates, categories, disambigs, etc.) and Wikiprojects (Disambiguation repair, Red link repair, Duplicated section repair, etc.).
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - Vandalism]] vandalism-related discussions, particularly requests to deal with vandals.
*[[User:BD2412/Archive - Miscellaneous]] everything else (thank you's, screw you's, my signature, jokes, comments, etc).
 
*'''I archive frequently - if you post a comment here, do not be surprised if it has been put away by the next day. I reserve the right to delete frivolous posts.'''
 
*'''My archiving is done primarly by the cut and paste method, although I occasionally archive long pages by page move. If you're looking for the edit history of a comment in my archives, it will likely be in the edit history of a page to which I moved a long archive.'''
 
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==AfD nomination of [[Phillip E. Baucus]]==
[[Phillip E. Baucus]], an article you created, has been nominated for [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|deletion]]. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that [[Phillip E. Baucus]] satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "[[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]]" and the [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|Wikipedia deletion policy]]). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip E. Baucus{{{order|}}}]] and please be sure to [[WP:SIG|sign your comments]] with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). You are free to edit the content of [[Phillip E. Baucus]] during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.<!-- Template:AFDWarning --> [[User:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#008000">Jmlk</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmlk17|<span style="color:#000080">1</span>]][[User_talk:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#800000">7</span>]] 12:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 
== I hate to ask this ==
 
I would appreciate your input at [[WP:AN#Choosing to vanish]], if you feel you have anything of worth to add. Thanks for your time, [[User:Hiding|Hiding]] <small>[[User talk:Hiding|T]] </small> 23:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 
==Congratulations==
While [[User:BD2412/My sad good news|it]] will be sad for us to lose your participation for a while, in the end we will benefit greatly from your new expertise - just don't start charging for it ;-). And for you personally, this will surely be a very good thing. So congratulations. [[User:NoSeptember/Signature14|<font color = "green">'''NoSeptember'''</font>]] 16:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, I'll try to stick around if I can do that without interfering with the program. But the more immediate concern is that I am moving - tomorrow morning, in fact - and will have ''no'' internet for at least four days. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 16:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm, how did I not see this first? My stalking skills have clearly waned during your first break. <tt>:)</tt>. Congrats BD, we will see you soon enough. Good luck, and of course: Cheers! <span>[[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup></span> 21:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 
== A totally random barnstar ==
 
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== Hi! :D ==
 
Sorry to bother you, but does [[:Image:Extremesportsbears.jpg]] meet the criteria for non-free image use? If not, why doesn't it? [[User:Maser Fletcher|<font color="blue">Maser</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Maser Fletcher|<font color="scarlet">Talk!</font>]])</sup> 06:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:Seems like the classic example of [[fair use]] - a low-quality version of an image designated for use in an article for which the image illustrates the subject of the article. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 07:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
==Orphaned non-free media (Image:BogdanosBookJacket.jpg)==
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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "[[Special:Contributions/{{PAGENAME}}|my contributions]]" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any '''articles''' will be deleted after seven days, as described on [[wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images.2FMedia|criteria for speedy deletion]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Orphaned --> [[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] ([[User talk:BetacommandBot|talk]]) 14:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:Addressed. Thanks. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 16:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 
==Questioning minor 1st paragraph edits?==
Re: [[John Roberts]], [[John Paul Stevens]], [[Antonin Scalia]], [[Anthony Kennedy]], [[David Souter]], [[Clarence Thomas]], [[Ruth Bader Ginsburg]], [[Stephen Breyer]], [[Samuel Alito]], [[Sandra Day O'Connor]]<br>
This is a small matter. I don't understand the reasons for [[User:Sjrplscjnky|Sjrplscjnky]]'s recent minor edits of articles about each of the Justices of the Supreme Court. After some time, there has been no response to inquiries posted on this editor's talk page nor has there been feedback from similar postings on the talk pages of each of the nine articles about a sitting Justice and the one about retired Justice O'Connor. Rather than simply reverting this "improvement," I thought it best to solicit comment from others who might be interested. I found your name amongst others at [[Talk:Supreme Court of the United States]].
 
I'm persuaded that [[User:Sjrplscjnky|Sjrplscjnky]]'s strategy of introducing academic honors in the first paragraph is unhelpful in this narrow set of articles -- that is, in Wikipedia articles about Justices of the Supreme Court. I think my reasoning might well extend as well to others on the Federal bench. In each instance, I would question adding this information only in the first paragraph -- not elsewhere in the article.
 
In support of my view that this edit should be reverted, please consider re-visiting articles written about the following pairs of jurists.
:* A1. [[Benjamin Cardozo]]
:* A2. [[Learned Hand]]
::* B1. [[John Marshall Harlan]]
::* B2. [[John Marshall Harlan II]]
The question becomes: Would the current version of the Wikipedia article about any one of them -- or either pair -- be improved by academic credentials in the introductory paragraph? I think not.
 
Perhaps it helps to repeat a wry argument Kathleen Sullivan of Stanford Law makes when she suggests that some on the Harvard Law faculty do wonder how [[Antonin Scalia]] avoided learning what others have managed to grasp about the processes of judging? I would hope this anecdote gently illustrates the point.
 
Less humorous, but an even stronger argument is the one [[Clarence Thomas]] makes when he mentions wanting to return his law degree to Yale.
 
As you can see, I'm questioning relatively trivial edit; but I hope you agree that this otherwise plausible "improvement" should be removed from introductory paragraphs of ten articles. If not, why not?
 
Would you care to offer a comment or observation? --[[User:Ooperhoofd|Ooperhoofd]] ([[User talk:Ooperhoofd|talk]]) 19:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 
== DEFAULTSORT ==
 
Hi, I see you have been doing good work adding the defaultsort magic word to lots of articles.
 
However, please may I draw your attention to some issues regarding the indexing of peers? The peerage categories should be indexed by the title:
*Hereditary peerages and categories relating to those peerages should be indexed as ''title, firstname surname, nth Earl of X''
*life peerages should be indexed solely by their title, e.g ''Jones of Borchester''
 
It's also important to note that different categories need to be indexed differently. e.g. [[E. F. L. Wood, 1st Earl of Halifax]] had a notable career in the [[British House of Commons|House of Commons]] before his ennoblement, and the categories relating to that period of his life should be indexed as ''Wood, E. F. L.'' (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=E._F._L._Wood%2C_1st_Earl_of_Halifax&diff=180263585&oldid=180225029 this edit] for an example)
 
Hope this helps. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 16:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for letting me know - I assumed that the differences were just inconsistency! Is is possible to have two different DEFAULTSORT templates on the page? [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::Update - I tested that theory on my userpage, and everything went to the ''last'' defaultsort header I entered. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:16, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 
== My steward election ==
Thank you for supporting [[m:Stewards/elections 2007/statements/Jusjih|my steward election]] having passed with 72-1-4-99%.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|talk]]) 23:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 
 
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== [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Miami 2]] ==
 
Here is a meetup that is being planned in the next few weeks. Thanks [[User:Secret|Secret]] <sup>[[User talk:Secret|account]]</sup> 22:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== New templates with redlinks dump ==
 
[[User:RussBot/Templates with red links]] and its subpages have been updated from the [[2008-01-03]] database dump. --[[User:R'n'B|Russ]] [[User talk:R'n'B|(talk)]] 15:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
*Thanks - I will take care of it <s>this weekend</s> <u>this Thursday</u>. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 15:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== If you are interested ==
 
Don't know if you might be interested in this or not, but: [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Releasing IP addresses of registered users: the Video Professor incident]]. <span>[[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup></span> 23:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== Airline code templates ==
 
Actually another user came up with the idea to use templates. The data is transcluded into two articles. One for the codes by first letter of the airline name and the other for a list of all codes. This was split up to reduce the load time for editing. Having the data in one article, as it was to start was very slow to edit and load. This was a solution to allow quicker editing and loading for most user who only want to look at the list by letter. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian|talk]]) 01:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
*Ok, I see how that works - but is it necessary to have an article containing all of the codes (that is one huge article, after all)? Compare the division used for [[IATA airport codes]]. If there is no second holistic article, the template becomes unnecessary, and all can be on one page for each letter. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 01:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== Templates with red links ==
 
Those pages are ready for your review. --[[User:R'n'B|Russ]] [[User talk:R'n'B|(talk)]] 18:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 
==Other articles of interest to tax protesters==
 
Regarding the current discussion about how to treat tax protesters, I would suggest that the following articles are possible candidates for additions to the list, should the Wikipedia community consensus support your proposal:
 
[[Commissioner of Internal Revenue]]
 
[[Direct tax]]
 
[[Indirect tax]]
 
[[Excise]]
 
[[Excise tax in the United States]]
 
[[Tax avoidance and tax evasion]]
 
[[Taxing and spending clause]]
 
[[Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co.]]
 
[[Flint v. Stone Tracy Co.]]
 
[[Springer v. United States]]
 
[[Cheek v. United States]]
 
[[The Law that Never Was]]
 
[[Joe Banister|Joseph Banister]]
 
[[Wayne Bentson]]
 
[[Edward and Elaine Brown]]
 
[[Dave Champion]]
 
[[Robert Clarkson]]
 
[[Arthur Farnsworth]]
 
[[Eddie Ray Kahn]]
 
[[Vivien Kellems]]
 
[[Devvy Kidd]]
 
[[Irwin Schiff]]
 
[[Bob Schulz]]
 
[[Richard Michael Simkanin]]
 
[[We the People Foundation]]
 
I wanted to list these here with you on your talk page for your input before formally proposing that these articles be added. I figure trying to propose this on the comment page might needlessly complicate the discussion. Your thoughts? [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 19:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
*Schiff is there already; otherwise, please do add these - have they all been the subject of previous tax protester rhetoric edits? I don't want to extend this to cover articles where we haven't had a real problem (although I think they will be covered in principle). Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 19:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 
OK. Tonight, I will try to go through the edit histories for these articles and see which articles have been the more serious problems in terms of being bombarded by tax protesters. I know that some articles have been only sporadic targets. Other articles just happen to be about tax protesters, but for whatever reason have not presented too many problems (like the Farnsworth article, I think). Stay tuned, and thanks! [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 20:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 
::Dear BD2412: Well, I've gone through some of the edit histories for the articles I cited above, and just made a quick general, non-scientific review. Based on that -- and to my surprise -- I am withdrawing my suggestion that these articles be added to the list now under discussion. Aside from the Schiff article which, as you said, is already in the subject list, I didn't see as many attacks by tax protesters on these articles as I expected or "remembered" there to have been. Even the ''Pollock'' article, which I expected to have had a rough history, has fared pretty well. Instead, the bulk of time by Wikipedia editors seems to have been spent in the articles you listed! Thanks, [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 05:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== Feedback ==
 
Hi there! As suggested by another user who named several wikipedians well instructed in law, we would like any feedback you could give us at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#BusinessWeek's Terms of Use]]. Basically, BusinessWeek's User Agreement explicitly forbids to deep link (link to any page that is not their home page), and have apparently asked a CEO who was recently interviewed by them not to link to the interview itself since it is considered a breach of their terms of use (according to this CEO's blog, that is). Since we have over 8,000 deep links to their site, we would like to know if you know any precedent about this kind of claim and whether it is enforceable or not according to your own knowledge. Thanks in advance. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] ([[User talk:ReyBrujo|talk]]) 04:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 
== Block lengths ==
 
A one second block can be used to make a note in someone's block log. While agree that it isn't used very often, I've sure seen it used more than a 15 minute or 1 hour block, both of which are fairly useless in term of vandalism and unlikely to be constructive if used for other purposes. [[User talk:John Reaves|John Reaves]] 18:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
*I frequently use a 15 minute block to investigate vandalism that may be just ignorant experimentation. Why put a 1 second block in the log at all? If an editor is doing enough to merit a block at all, they almost certainly need to be blocked for a long enough time to know that they've been blocked! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 18:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
::The note idea is for things like indicating previous block logs after a rename or account switch or for amending a previous message. How about we revert to my version but replace 1 second with 15 minutes. [[User talk:John Reaves|John Reaves]] 19:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
:::The only difference then would be having a 12 hour option instead of a 1 hour option, right? Why not just add the 12 hour option? [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 19:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Good point, will do. [[User talk:John Reaves|John Reaves]] 20:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well done. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 
==[[Real property use tax]]==
 
Dear BD2412: Can you take a look at this article, which I just discovered? Editor Morphh has raised copyright concerns about it on my talk page, and I have some separate concerns as I've just expressed on the talk page for that article. Yours, [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 20:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 
Post script: For what it's worth, the article was created by a new user "Walter Hemmings," who has also created some other tax articles. [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 20:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into it, but not until the weekend! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 
::While your looking at copyright issues on tax articles.. ;-) [[Tax rates around the world]] uses a source (www.worldwide-tax.com), which is on our [[WP:BLACKLIST|spam blacklist]]. The table in the article is very similar to the one on their website. [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>20:35, 06 February 2008 (UTC)</i></small>
 
==RFC==
As I understand it you (as creator) close the RFC by removing the RFC template from the page. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 16:01 [[6 February]] [[2008]] (GMT).
:ON the "relief required"
:# Any tax protester rhetoric added to these articles should be reverted on sight;
:#:Certainly any rhetoric should be reverted on sight.
:# Addition of POV tags to any of these should be reverted on sight unless the editor provides on the talk page specific examples of article content which constitute a bias.
:#:I suggest you add an html comment to the effect that "POV tags will be removed unless they refer to a talk page section showing specific examples of bias"
:''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 16:12 [[6 February]] [[2008]] (GMT).
::I'd really rather someone else "close" the discussion though, just to avoid the appearance of me as an involved party proposing a policy and then declaring its passage. I will add the recommended message, however. Thanks. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 18:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 
== [[Margaret Fishback]] ==
 
Thank you for creating this article! I'd been wanting to do it for ages, but never had time. I always felt she deserved her own article. [[User:Miss Dark|Miss Dark]] ([[User talk:Miss Dark|talk]]) 00:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 
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Hi - You reinstated text on the Obama talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABarack_Obama&diff=191299884&oldid=191299841 here] with the edit summary "revert defamatory smear" - perhaps there was an edit conflict, but did you intend to reinstate that text? It seems to me to be obviously inappropriate for an article talk page, so I removed it, but wanted to check with you about the edit. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 00:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:Oops - no, I meant to erase another diatribe about Obama being a "secret Muslim" - thanks for catching that! [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 00:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I figured that was it. The attacks are getting worse, unsurprisingly. Glad we have a lot of eyes watching. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 00:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)