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:::And indeed it is relevant: during the whole bikini wax thing, she was using both names (Jon and Jess) - the judges wrote multiple paragraphs on Yaniv's usage of both names (here, for ex: <ref>https://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bchrt/doc/2019/2019bchrt222/2019bchrt222.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAOam9uYXRoYW4geWFuaXYAAAAAAQ&resultIndex=1</ref>
:::Thus, the birth name can and should be included. Unless [[User:Thivierr|Rob]] has some other reason we've not considered. [[User:Wisefroggy|Wisefroggy]] ([[User talk:Wisefroggy|talk]]) 21:28, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
::::The lead is part of article space. You're quoting from two different parts of the policy: there's one standard for general name changes, and a different one for transgender birth names. If you look at the leads for other articles on trans people who transitioned before becoming famous, you'll see that birth names aren't included ([[Laverne_Cox|Lavergne Cox]], for instance) [[User:Nblund |<span style="background-color: #CC79A7; color:white;">'''Nblund'''</span>]]<sup> [[User talk:Nblund|talk]]</sup> 21:37, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
:I apologize for missing this section. [[WP:BLPPRIVACY]] says it makes sense to bring up full names when they've been widely covered, but I don't really think this fits the bill based on the two sources that reference it. I don't think this is a huge issue, but it seems to add very little and runs a risk of needlessly publicizing information that the subject wants to keep private. [[User:Nblund |<span style="background-color: #CC79A7; color:white;">'''Nblund'''</span>]]<sup> [[User talk:Nblund|talk]]</sup> 21:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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