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Please see the source here with the statement from DODMA [1]. The English is much better here and not easily confused. Noah^Talk 00:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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List of off-season South-West Indian Ocean tropical cyclones

You need to tread very very carefully with this article as according to the tropical cyclone operational plan for the region, the World Meteorological Organization currently defines the tropical cyclone season for the SWIO, as running between July 1 and June 30 of the following year for the SWIO. In other words there is no tropical cyclone season for the SWIO, however, it is worth noting that some members such as Mauritus have defined a shorter specific season for their domestic needs. This is also why I have never published this sandbox despite wanting too so many times.Jason Rees (talk) 20:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

So why does the article for the 2022–23 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone say "officially began on 15 November 2022, and ended on 30 April 2023, with the exception for Mauritius and the Seychelles, for which it ended on 15 May 2023."? Very confusing...so delete the article? Undescribed (talk) 22:25, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I do not know why the article says that the season started on November 15, but if I had to guess Meteo France Reunion considers the season to start on November 15 and ends on April 30th but others like the South Africa Weather Servivce don't. In order to be fair here, I am going to send an email to MFR and check, as it could be that the plan is completely outdated and that the season now starts on November 15.Jason Rees (talk) 23:52, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I had no idea that the SWIO season went year round. I thought it was just the WPAC that did that since it is the most favorable basin for TCG worldwide. I would never have created such a long detailed article if I knew that. Wouldnt we go by whatever La Reunion says since its the basins RSMC? Undescribed (talk) 04:17, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Every season is technically year round even when there are listed start and end dates. IIRC NHEM seasons are Jan 1–Dec 31 and SHEM seasons are Jul 1–Jun 30. Noah^Talk 15:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Right Undescribed (talk) 16:18, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the late response - its been a mad day, but I have emailed RSMC La Reunion asking for clarification. I would personaly presume that we would use the WMO RA I TCC over RSMC La Reunion, since the latter operates as an RSMC on behalf of the former, like NHC operates on behalf of the hurricane committee, JMA on behalf of the typhoon committee etc. I also took a brief look at earlier copies of the Tropical Cyclone Operational Plan for the SWIO in case it helps and found out the following:

TCOP Edition	Season Start	Season End
1983	November 15	April 15
2006	November 1	April 30
2008	November 1	April 30
2010	November 1	April 30
2012	July 1	June 30
2016	July 1	June 30
2021	July 1	June 30

Jason Rees (talk) 01:20, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Very interesting how many times they have changed the dates of the official season. They have yet the change the Atlantic hurricane season dates even once. So should the off season list include storms prior to 2012 only? Or should the article just be deleted entirely? Undescribed (talk) 05:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

I would have to look it up but I believe that the dates of the Atlantic hurricane season have changed before now as it used to start on June 15 or something. Anyway, my gut is telling me to keep the list for now and wait until Meteo France come back to me about the season dates - you never know what might happen :) Jason Rees (talk) 12:07, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh wow I didnt kmow that either. I know there was talk about changing the official start of the ATL season to May 15 because of all the pre-season storms lately but I didnt know about the June 15th part. I didnt know that you had a sandbox on this article either, although I noticed that you created the AUS and SPAC basin lists for off season, and was rather perplexed that you didnt publish one for the SWIO but now I know why. I also noticed that you have quite a few storms on your list that arent on the published list. Maybe something to incorporate? Undescribed (talk) 13:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Sorry again for the late response, blame real life. :) Anyway I am happy for you to incorporate the systems from my sandbox in to your list or if i get some time/motivation I will. :) Jason Rees (talk) 19:45, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh trust me I completely understand. Back when I started editing wiki in 2009 I was just a kid and had all the time in the world. Now that I'm pushing 30 I find myself on here much less. At the moment I happen to have slightly more time, which is why I was able to make this article. But my primary concern with making any more changes right now is if we end up having to delete this article altogether, depending on what Meteo France tells you. Whats the point of doing anything right now until we know for sure if there even is a season in the SWIO? The WPAC and NIO are the only offical basins that I know of that have no defined season. Undescribed (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Damage

The link for the Storm Daniel damage isn't working just an FYI. Noah, AA^Talk 16:41, 21 September 2023 (UTC)