Talk:David Archuleta

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Sources?

Where are the sources implying his notability before American Idol came around? I doubt any Star Search or mySpace success would count (unless of course independantly covered) Gwynand (talk) 15:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

No idea. That's what I've been wondering. :) --Woohookitty^Woohoo! ]]) 18:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Here's a source then. Is this acceptable? Shapiros10 (talk) 21:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Google news has 40+ here Benjiboi 10:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

From the article page: "On 5 March 2008, Archuleta's single "Imagine" reached #1 on iTunes' album chart, while "Shop Around" charted at #8." There is no source listed for this. Where did this information come from? Abinidi (talk) 03:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Beats me, it was added by an anonymous user about a day ago. See revision. I can only assume it came from somewhere as here, but the iTunes Store Top 10 Albums doesn't keep track of dates, so it's not reliable. - Io Katai (talk) 03:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

It's from the Itunes' rankings page. I'm unsure how to see it without being in Itunes itself so if anyone is able to do that it would be helpful. Also even though they are actually singles they are called albums within the iTunes universe. Benjiboi 03:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

He probably is, but...

Resolved. Reliable reference putting his religion in context of his singing found and added. Benjiboi 19:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Being from Utah, their is a more than even chance that he's LDS (Mormon). But is there a reliable resource that verifies this? I couldn't find that info on the American Idol website, but I notice he's LDS according to one of his categories. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 20:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• See here or any other Utah news source. -Lөvөl 21:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually had a source in the article but it disappeared. Yes he's a member of LDS. In fact, there's a link out there that lists celebrity LDS members and he's in it. And it isn't a random list. It's from the church itself. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 22:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

As we want to be careful to label anyone's religion let's make sure we have a reliable source that states this. I would hate for him to lose favor with folks over religious issues so we should also be clear if this is important to his notability. If he talks about it then fine. Otherwise the article should focus on his singing and items related to his notability. Benjiboi 02:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I've removed this one - <ref name="BCSD">{{cite web | title=BCSD - David Archuleta | publisher=The Boy Choir & Soloist Directory | date=January 1, 2004 | url =http://www.boysoloist.com/artist.asp?VID=743 | accessdate=2008-02-27}}</ref>. Anyone can add nearly anything to the website and it seems like it was copied from someone else's bio. The LDS site is better but I'd feel more comfortable removing it until we have a more neutral source. Arguably LDS benefits by promoting successful members as would any group. We don't have, as of yet, statements from the subject, his family or reliable sources that they are religious or even go to the church. Any thoughts?

I readded it because it sourced information that was not mentioned in the first. It's a biography webpage that takes its source from David Archuleta's old website, davidarchuleta.net. If you wish to contest the information, then cite the Internet Archive Wayback instead. - Io Katai (talk) 03:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry but unreliable sources simply don't cut it. I've left the content, it really doesn't seem that controversial. The wayback machine for David's website is the way to go. But the boy choir directory isn't up to the standard of reliability. Benjiboi 23:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Good call, I've added the wayback links to his bio from several years ago. Benjiboi 00:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Now I'm confused. I checked the ref provided by Lөvel above (Deseret News) and it checks out. It is a newspaper and says he's LDS. That's not verifiable or reliable? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I would caution about using it as it has little or nothing to do with his singing which is what he is notable for. If he mentions it in an interview or talks about how his faith or church-going is important then fine. Otherwise I would leave it for now. Benjiboi 00:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Benji. His faith is somewhat arbitrary in regards to his celebrity status as a singer. While we may have a source stating he is (and it appears to be a obscure Mormon blog), we should not be cherrypicking little pieces of info to include. If it's the kind of thing that is getting covered repeatedly my different news sources, or is the major topic of a reliable source, then maybe then we include it. Without that, it look's like we are researching ourselves. Gwynand (talk) 12:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

• How about famousmormons.net or Buddy TV or TV Guide. It is mentioned that Brooke White is, on her page. David has also said he that is, in interviews on KSTU Fox 13 (there is currently no statement on My Fox Utah though) while Brooke hasn't -Lөvөl 16:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Cha-ching! Ok, famousmormons.net is pretty useless as is Buddy TV which only reffed someone else...but TV Guide reffered to a LA Times article which refers to why he likely didn't sing the first verse of "Imagine" thus we can now add this as critical commentary. Benjiboi 19:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Honduran American?

Just because his mother is from Honduras, that means we label him as an Honduran American? I say that unless some third party source identifies him as such, or he clearly states somewhere he is an "Honduran American", then his inclusion in this category should be removed. Gwynand (talk) 19:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, if there is a category "people with Honduran ancestry" I could be swayed to include that instead. Benjiboi 21:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Archies

Hey, I just wanted to know if this page can have something mentioning the Archies (the way that the fans of David Archuleta call themselves). You can see this reference mostly at Americanidol.com. It's because I want to make an userbox that redirects here, but it needs to mention the Archies. --Arthur Benthos (talk) 17:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)