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May 24

When should we iconify?

{{pp-protected}} and its related templates all feature the |icon parameter. My question is, when should we not use the icon and instead have a bigger template. I usually see the icon on protected templates, but there were one or two instances where I saw the full template displayed rather than the small icon. Thanks! --Michaelzeng7 (talk - contribs) 01:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Latin info

This file is in Latin. Should it be translated, since this is the English wiki? Legolover26 (talk) 01:58, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

A translation would be best. It would require that somebody makes a new file with some external tool and uploads it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Done. It's at File:Hill sphere of the planets.png. I've replaced the image in Hill sphere with it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:12, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

This question completely confused me because I couldn't see any Latin anywhere. I eventually realised that the image was labelled in French. --ColinFine (talk) 21:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

It could be the user actually thought it was Latin, but I have noticed in the past, on occasion, people using "Latin" as a catchall for anything not in English, or "Greek", as in "it's all Greek to me."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was Latin, but I was wrong. It had latin sounding things, like Terre for Earth. But in Latin, Earth is Terra. I was wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legolover26 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Request to perpetuate memory of Dr.Phillipe Pinel,

World Schizophrenia Day is observed on 24th May to pay tributes to this compassionate and courageous psychiatrist who ordered 200 mentally ill persons to be liberated by unchaining them from the government asylum near Paris. Some of them were chained for 30 to 40 years as if they were dangerous wild beasts. So also Dr.Pinel had liberated another 600 women mentally ill from another asylum. He is also known as the Father of Modern Psychiatry not only because of freeing these mentally ill but also because of his research work in the field of mental illness. To pay permanent tribute to this savant, may I suggest you introduce a new verb, TO PINEL, meaning to liberate, to unchain, to be freed from captivity or bondage. English language will be richer by doing this.

I am volunteering for Schizophrenia Awareness Association, Pune, India, for the past 14 years (www.schizophrenia.org.in) and am fully aware that though Dr.Pinel freed the mentally ill from metal chains, even to this day they continue to be bound by ignorance, isolation, discrimination and indignity in all parts of the world.

Thank you in advance for your compliance = Gurudatt Kundapurkar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.52.168 (talk) 02:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tribute website. Cresix (talk) 03:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

We already have an article about Phillipe Pinel. Roger (talk) 09:50, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

If you are suggesting that Wikipedia should mention your word then it is against Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary#Neologisms and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Neologisms and new compounds. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Walhaalla SC

I was just interested in what historial information Wiki had on my hometown of Walhalla SC. I noticed the reference to the current mayor is incorrect. The current mayor is Danny Edwards. Please update if you are able. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.92.1.106 (talk) 03:01, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to edit the article yourself, but be sure to provide a reliable source for your edits. For more information, read WP:HEP. Cresix (talk) 03:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Want to write about my site.

Hello,

I am working for a free classified site, so i want to write an article for my site on Wikipedia to make user aware about my site. So please tell me how can i do so and what things i should keep in mind to make my post approved on wiki.

Note: Please reply me ASAP.

Regards, Simon Jain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonjain223 (talk • contribs) 05:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

You can learn how to write an article by reading WP:YFA. You also need to read the policies on what makes a subject notable and editing when you have a conflict of interest. You can also request an article at WP:RA. RudolfRed (talk) 06:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

You should also be aware that Wikipedia has strict rules against advertising. Making people aware of your website is not a legitimate purpose for Wikipedia articles. We only allow articles about stuff that people are already aware of. Roger (talk) 06:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of page created by me - Hanwen - Pearl Delta International School

I created the page a month back and it was deleted. I requested for accepting the page. So I recreated it now and again it is marked for deletion.

This school is upcoming school and I had added a relevant web link already in the new page that I created last week.

I request you to accept this page for the sake of the community as this is a school started for the sake of public.

Thanks for your attention.

Chitra sivakumar Chitra sivakumar (talk) 06:41, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The place to discuss the deletion is at the AFD. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:47, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedily deleted as a WP:COPYVIO.--ukexpat (talk) 14:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

And if by "upcoming" you meant "up and coming", then I strongly suggest you read WP:UPANDCOMING. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:48, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Someone removed the redirect on the article I was editing

I was editing the article class conflict. I first found the article by searching the term "Class Warfare". Now after editing it, when I do the same thing, search class "class warfare" the it no longer redirects me directly to this article. Is there a way to just change the name of the "Class Conflict" article to "Class Warfare"? Or, how can I change the article back to the way it was before where it was automatically presented when one searched the words "Class Warfare", and how do I found out how did this? It's not in the history.--XB70Valyrie (talk) 08:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

There is also an article at Class struggle, I'm no expert on the topic but it seems to me the subjects have very large overlaps. Roger (talk) 08:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep in mind that titles are case sensitive - Class Warfare and Class warfare are different pages. Roger (talk) 08:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect you typed "Class warefare" or "Class Warefare" (with the "e" in the middle), which unlike those above, do redirect to this article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I've been contemplating combining the two articles. A bold edit I just need to find the time for. I think I might have straightened this out by adding a the words and description to the actual list of redirects that appear when you search "class warfare". Thanks. --XB70Valyrie (talk) 02:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so now I need to know how to delete the Class Struggle article since I've migrated all relevant material from it over to the Class conflict article. Obviously I (with a little help from some friends) need to create a "redirect" to the Class conflict struggle in reference to the Class Struggle article. I'm actually quite proud of the new, bigger, more detailed Class conflict article. I've dolled it up and added photos and everything. I need to find more citations to the Marx sections and intro, but holy cow, my life only moves one minute at a time. --XB70Valyrie (talk) 06:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi XB70Valyrie. Obviously what you did was in sterling good faith, but please note for future reference the actions necessary to comply with mandatory copyright attribution when you merge content and otherwise copy content from one Wikipedia page to another. You must note you are merging content and link where you are merging from in the edit summary, e.g., "Merging content from [[article name]]". You did at least indicate to some extent what you were doing, though the name you used, the unlinked Class Struggle with an uppercase "S", is a disambiguation page, while the page with the content you were merging was at Class struggle. I have fixed this with the copyright attribution note seen here. Regarding deletion of Class struggle, the very fact that you have merged content from there means it must never be deleted—its edit history is now the copyright attribution for all the content you merged. However, what I have done is redirect it to class conflict. Please note the copyright attribution edit summary for this other side of the merge that I used upon the redirection (which is also required). I have also done some other things, such as add a hatnote to the article needed because of the merge, change the disambiguation page to make sense in light of the merge and fixed the double redirects that pointed at class struggle, to point at class conflict. Best regards,--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow. That's both a lot of work that you did and a perfect example that I still have lots to learn about the inner-workings and protocol of wikipedia editing. I'll read up on the wikipedia links you cited and become better and better at this every day. Thanks again, I'll wiki the word "barn-star" and review the recommendation process for that. :) --XB70Valyrie (talk) 06:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Deliberately excessive referencing

An editor added unsourced info to a BLP which someone correctly reverted. The first editor then "retalliated" by returning the material to the page with an excessively large number of cites - with a distinctly peevish edit summary - "sources added - take your pick". Is there a specific guideline about excessive referencing? Roger (talk) 10:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything against it, the edit is very pointy, but nothing actionable. Wikipedia:Citation overkill has some further reading. I've not got the time to read it myself. Яehevkor ✉ 11:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Wikipedia:Citation overkill is exactly what I'm looking for. Roger (talk) 11:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

"Vandalism" needs removed

Hello. I am a teacher at Ohio Connections Academy and to teach my students that Wikipedia is NOT a credible source for Research papers because anyone can edit it I showed them what I mean by adding a few untrue comments onto Wikipedia under the "Ohio Connections Academy" section. I don't ever edit anything on Wikipedia and the only times I have done are for teaching practices. The last time I added an untrue comment onto the "Ohio Connections Academy" section they removed it immediately and I was glad because I didn't mean for it to be left up there for good. I thought that when I put up untrue comments that the Wikipedia staff would find and remove it - in fact, I was counting on it. So I was surprised to learn that my most recent untrue comment is still up. I just tried to edit to remove what I wrote and realize that I must be blocked from editing because of "vandalism." So I just wanted to ask that you remove the comment about "Lisa Hess being an Olympic Gold medalist in Archery" from the "Ohio Connections Academy" section. Also, if there is any way I could have my editing privileges reinstated that would be great, as I promise in the future I will remove my untrue comments as soon as I put them up. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klunt (talk • contribs) 12:52, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

You're totally missing the point that you are not allowed to vandalize WP for any purposes whatsoever. If you are genuinely interested in using WP as a teaching tool there are properly organised programs for doing so - WP:School and university projects. Roger (talk) 13:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I have removed your edit. Claiming that you will "remove my untrue edits as soon as I put them up" is perhaps the worst unblock request I've seen to date; effectively you're asking us to unblock you so that you can continue to vandalise the encyclopedia. The motivation for your vandalism is irrelevant; you are here to deliberately disrupt the work of other editors, and removing your editing privileges is the appropriate response. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually this "editor" is not currently blocked - but probably should be. Roger (talk) 13:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Noted, and agreed. I'm watchlisting their talkpage - if another warning pops up, I shall log an AIV report. In the meantime, Klunt, please either use your account to edit constructively, or don't edit at all. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

While you are watching, you may wish to keep an eye on Katherinel12 (talk · contribs) too. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Klunt, you misunderstand how Wikipedia works at such a fundamental level that I'm disturbed you feel qualified to teach your students about it. "Wikipedia staff" (actually Wikimedia Foundation staff) number 75; articles on the various language Wikipedias number 22 million. So vandalism is not repaired by paid staffers, but by ordinary volunteers around the world who donate their free time to helping maintain Wikipedia. Many such volunteers are educators; I myself teach at university. If you don't want your students citing Wikipedia (as I don't) you need only point them toward Wikipedia's own advice available by clicking "Cite this page" from the toolbox on the left hand side of any article. You might also tell the students about, for example, the Wikipedia biography controversy or the Essjay controversy.

There should be nothing stopping you from editing that article or any other as long as you are logged in; I would guess you were unable to edit before because you weren't logged in and were trying to edit from an IP address with a history of vandalism. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 13:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

How about actually doing something constructive on WP as a class project instead of vandalising? There are a whole universe of articles that need to be written. There is so much that your class (and you) can learn with such a project. Instead of simply bleating on about how vandalism makes WP unreliable - and then making the problem even worse by vandalising it yourself - you can teach your class many useful skills; how to properly research a topic, how to identify reliable sources and then use them to write a good article with a proper structure, references, etc. These are skills they will find very useful as they go further in their academic careers - and even after in their professions. Please see WP:School and university projects for guidance on how to get started. Roger (talk) 14:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia#A caution before citing Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia. Don't vandalize Wikipedia and please don't teach your students how to do it, which is probably how some of them will view your irresponsible lesson. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

How to deal with trolls on wikipedia

Assume that an editor with more than 50000 edits, who's indefinitely blocked due to "trolling" last year, is requesting an unblock. And he claimed that he has contributed a lot so far, and it will be no harm to unblock him; if not, it'll certainly be a loss to wikipedia. However he doesn't admit that he did any thing wrong last year.

So just curious about how admins here would deal with this on enwiki. Or, any similar cases before? Thanks.--Jsjsjs1111 (talk) 13:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

You should probably ask at WP:AN.--ukexpat (talk) 14:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Clear Channel no longer has naming rights to the Lancaster Municipal Stadium.

Please update the header of this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Channel_Stadium

It should now be "Lancaster Municipal Stadium."

Thank you, Recreation Programs Coordinator City of Lancaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by CityLancasterCC (talk • contribs) 16:25, 24 May 2012‎ (UTC+1)

Do you have a source for that? Your own website still has [Clear Channel]. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Can I undo an edit?

I found a broken link to a page that no longer exists. A friend told me those are good to edit and add credible websites (in other words he said link it back to your site)... Without thinking, I did the edit and am now worried that I might get banned in google for spamming... I would like to undo this but do not know how. Is there a way to just undo what I did and put everything back to where it was? Or will Wikipedia just edit this back to how it should be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricci84 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I have undone your edit to an archive. No harm. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:12, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Hughes Hotel

Looking up the History of Fresno, Calif. the file showed so much on key items that Fresno is known for in History. One of the biggest item that was not listed is the "Hughes Hotel" that was on the corner of Tulare and Broadway. It was a very History Labeled Building. It had the first electric lights in Fresno. It was one of the most beautiful buildings that I have ever been in. It was built in the mid to end of 1800's. But in 1953, I believe it was, an arsonist went around Fresno and started fires all over town. Mainly the downtown area and businesses. Why I can not remember but it was a very hot,hot day and the fires were being lit one after another. They did catch him and he was sentenced. That part escapes me but the history is there and many building that were very Historical to Fresno were lost or badly damaged. You should put that down in the history of Fresno. I remember riding the last steam train leaving Fresno going South to LA. and watching it circle around the mountain going over the ridge route and going through the tunnels thru the mountains. Bring those items up. To me Fresno has lost alot of history by the way it is being run. At 65 and not of the computer rules history age, if history has not being written down in real ink, not just posted on computers, the world is going to be lost.

Thank you, Susan Gilstrap — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amber1041 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I added a header to your edit to separate it from the previous edit. Feel free to edit the article yourself, but be sure to cite reliable sources. For more information read WP:HEP. Cresix (talk) 16:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Page Ashraf Al Hajuj

Ashraf Al Hajuj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dear Sir or Madam,

I would want to report the problem with the page "Ashraf Al Hajuj". The page is with false and inadequate content about a living person and should be removed in accordance with Wikipedia regulations. The gossip columns are not a source of the trustful information. All our attempts to make appropriate corrections (i.e. in the date of birth even) are met with aggression and are immediately labeled "vandalism". Also I would want to report the problem with the user "Nadine" who apparently is very incompetent and narrow-minded, allows herself to insult people and believes any other person is wrong if he/she doesn't share her opinion. We contacted the Interpol to advise us on this issue. They advised us to contact you first to see if there is any possibility to resolve the conflict peacefully and just to delete the nonsense that was written. Also we would like to ask you for cooperation in giving the contact details of the persons who are behind creating this page full with false and insulting information. In case we do not receive any response from your side, we wll proceed with legal actions.

I hope to have informed you sufficiently.

Kind regards, Ashraf El-Hagoug — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.168.166.15 (talk) 17:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Making legal threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. An appropriate place to address your concerns (but not legal threats) is Talk:Ashraf Al Hajuj. Cresix (talk) 18:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Can a private business be included in Wikipedia?

I am editor of Tank Transport Trader magazine, a 30-year-old monthly magazine that is the leading trade journal for those in the tank-truck industry. Would a small overview (biography)of our company meet criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.126.233 (talk) 19:10, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The main criteria are notability (more specifically the company notability criteria) and whether you have sufficient independent reliable sources. The size of the company as such is not relevant. So the basic issue is, have other publications written articles about your magazine? Roger (talk) 19:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Also take a look at WP:COI to avoid some of the pitfalls regarding conflict of interest if you or someone closely affiliated with your business writes the article. Cresix (talk) 19:29, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

A quick look at Google came up with only your own website (tanktransport.com) and a multitude of directory listings (which prove nothing more than existence). No in-depth coverage of your company/magazine by independent sources, so unless you can pull the proverbial rabbit out of a hat and find a source that Google can't, it doesn't look like the article would pass the notability requirement. Roger (talk) 19:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations covers all of that and more. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

To put it simply as possible for the OP: It doesn't matter what a thing is, what matters is what information is availible about that thing. If there is a sufficient amount of information in truly independent (i.e. not written by the subject itself) and reliable sources, then there should be an article about that thing. If, however, all that exists is trivial writing (very little depth of content) or all of the writing is by the thing itself (i.e. on the company's own website), then Wikipedia shouldn't have an article about it. --Jayron32 19:48, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Requesting a new article?

Hello there! I was wondering how to REQUEST a new article to be written. I do not yet have all the skills needed to start an article, but I did notice that a page on the third novel in the Airhead series by Meg Cabot, "Runaway" needs a page.

There are some links to the page, but it redirects to Meg Cabot. The first two books in the series have their own pages.

I welcome any help! Thank you! LovelyEdit ^talk 20:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requested articles. --Jayron32 20:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Article: Jim Suhler

I recently completed editing an article for Jim Suhler. I used the "move" button from my sandbox to go "live" with the article but don't see it in a search. Are there any further steps required to make this article appear? Thanks in advance for your assistance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malskl2 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Just a note, you moved the article to Wikipedia space at WP:Jim Suhler, rather then article space. I moved it there, to Jim Suhler for you, and removed the sandbox template. It should now appear in searches. Otherwise, I don't see any other technical issues. I don't see any critical issues, though I'd suggest categorizing the article, looking for places where the article should be wiki linked from, and adding more references for the information contained in it. Monty₈₄₅ 21:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Monty's move means you get the article if you enter the precise title in the search box, but the article text has not been indexed by the search function yet. See Help:Searching#Delay in updating the search index. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

notification of updates on suggested changes

Dear Wikipedia,

I submitted a request to change a line in the article about "Bahrain" on May 20, 2012. My request was as follows:

Please change "Bahrain is a Constitutional monarchy" to "Bahrain is an absolute monarchy which claims to be a constitutional monarchy".

How do I know if anyone is considering this suggestion or has acted on it either affirmatively or negatively?

regards,

csc a.k.a. "Clioveritas" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clioveritas (talk • contribs) 21:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The sources you provided are not reliable. See the reply to your request at Talk:Bahrain. Cresix (talk) 21:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Click "My contributions" at the top of any page to see your edits. The answer to your request is where you posted it: Talk:Bahrain#Edit request on 20 May 2012. If you become more active then see Help:Watching pages for a way to keep track of edits to pages of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Rollback

How do you rollback several contributions at once by an editor, across different pages?Ankh.Morpork 21:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

You could open (in new windows/tabs for expediency) a bunch of the roll back links from the editor's contributions page, if its a particularly large number, there is a mass roll back script discussed at Wikipedia:MASSROLLBACK. Monty₈₄₅ 21:44, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

can i play maplestory on my new latop?

hello i was wondering if anyone knew if i was able to play and enjoy maplestory with very little lag on my new laptop. my new laptop is a Toshiba satellite C675-S7104. it has a 4gb memory and a 320gb hard drive. it also has a 4gb ram. and lastly its runs using Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system.

if anyone could help me its would highly appreciated thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yokikodi (talk • contribs) 22:49, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 22:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

THis page is for questions about how to use Wikipedia. The place to ask this kind of question is at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. GB fan 22:52, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

May 25

Fresh Hell in Wikipedia

What is this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIFF

It shakes annoyingly. Please fix it. I have never seen anything like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.21.220 (talk) 01:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

If you're serious, you failed to make your point. If you're not serious, please consider this a warning that such edits are inappropriate on Wikipedia. Cresix (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I have removed the final line from the MIFF page, since it was not appropriate for a disambiguation page. If that was the problem then (a) you could have removed it yourself, (b) you could have said so more clearly. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

CSD log in Twinkle

Was wondering how to create one, couldn't seem to find it on the Twinkle page. Thanks, Buggie111 (talk) 01:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc says "In your Twinkle preferences, you can turn on the CSD userspace log. This feature keeps a log in your userspace of all pages you nominate for CSD". Does that help? You might want to post your question on the talk page for that article. RudolfRed (talk) 01:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It's a setting in Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences. There is a check box about half way down that says "Keep a log in userspace of all CSD nominations" --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Query Regarding M.E Entrance in PICT college of Pune

Hello, I want to ask that , I want to take admission in Pune Institute of Computer Technology for PG course ( Master of Engineering in IT or CS). So,what is procedure. About Entrance Exam? About Fees Structure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varsha yaduvanshi (talk • contribs) 03:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 03:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

What's different about the "My sandbox" link?

At the top of every page, I have these links: RudoldRed (my user page), My talk, My sandbox, My preferences, My Watchlist, My Contributions, Log out. I've noticed that whenever I open any Wikipedia page, all of the links show up together as the page starts to load, except for My sandbox. The My sandbox shows up a bit later, pushing my userpage link and My talk over to the left as it does. So, what's different about the "My sandbox" link? Why does it not show up at the same time as all of the other links at the top of the page? RudolfRed (talk) 04:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It is a Gadget and gets loaded after the rest of the personal toolbar. See Help:My sandbox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 04:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

link VA 34 to VFA 34

I need to know if someone on this thread can please link USN squarden VA-34 which is in RED to the current Squadrens VFA-34 page. for some reason it thake me to VF 20 and no info.. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.174.58.137 (talk) 07:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

When I type "VA 34" in the search box I end up at VA34, and the first link there takes me to VFA-34. Is that what you are seeing? Can you give the name or URL of the page containing the faulty link? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As far as I can see, there is no page containing a faulty link here. As the History section of the VFA-34 article says, "The third VA-34, established in 1970, was later redesignated VFA-34 and is the subject of this article." Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It was redlinked in List of inactive United States Navy aircraft squadrons, because it was formatted as [[VF-20|VA-34]]. Re-anchored. Dru of Id (talk) 11:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

User name problem

Sir, I want user name Ahmeronline. because my email address is hotmail.com, gmail.com, yahoo.com facebook.com and tweeter account name is ahmeronline. I'm using internet 1998. I think I register ahmeronline in wikipeida but I can't login. I tried to use forget password and check my all emails but I can't see any email from wikipedia.

I hope you understand why I want Ahmeronline on Wikipedia.

Please resolve my troubles Thanks, Ahmer Jamil (AhmerOnline) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AhmerJamil (talk • contribs) 08:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The account Ahmeronline (not AhmerOnline) was created on 6 March 2008, and made just one edit, to Osmania University, the same day. You appear to have registered an email address (at any rate, Wikipedia will let me email that user), but if you no longer have access to that email address then there is no way that you can reset the password for it. It may be possible for you to usurp the account name, but I don't think so: I am not very familiar with the rules for this, though, so I may be wrong. --ColinFine (talk) 10:30, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The account User:Ahmeronline was created 6 March 2008 and made its only small edit [1] that day. If you don't remember which email address you stored then check all your email accounts and any spam folders. If you still cannot see the mail then you can request the username at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Regarding CSD

If I move a page to another one and want to request deletion of the original page, can I do it under G6 (housekeeping)?? If not, can I do it under any other criteria of CSD?? Roshan220195 (talk) 08:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You could, I suppose, but why bother? Redirects are cheap. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The move page does have the option not to create a redirect, but having created one R3 or G7 would be options if it's not a credible spelling. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Only administrators have the option to not leave a redirect behind when moving a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:24, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

(e/c) Yes, you could use G6 for redirects unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace. It also is commonly used (and is the criterion automatically supplied) when a redirect is deleted by an administrator when moving a page title to an existing redirect. You could also use CSD R2 for redirects created when you moved a page from the mainspace to another namespace. Until just a few days ago CSD R3, which covers implausible typos and misnomers, could have been used but an exception was made to exclude the criterion from redirects created by moves. There are others that more generically apply but would be rarer, such as using G10 for a redirect that is an attack (we do see this) and relatedly, G3 for obvious vandalism. G1 (patent nonsense) could be relevant at times, G7 as well (creator requests). Hell, G11 (blatant advertising) could even be used, e.g., for a page moved from a page that was titled "business name is the greatest store of all time..."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help guys. :) Roshan220195 (talk) 13:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hoax copy of Wikipedia pages blending with true Wikipedia pages?

It came to my attention that there is a web-page http://mickopedia.org/mickify.py?topic=Kristo_Ivanov, which seems to be a hoax copy of a serious article in Wikipedia with parallel layout as Wikipedia, that links back to true/real Wikipedia-pages as in its Talk-section. Perhaps Wikipedia's help desk should know about this hoax activity on the net. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.239.70.241 (talk) 09:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There are many forks of Wikipedia, some more serious than others. There are thousands of Wikis which use the same Mediawiki software, and so often have a similar appearance to Wikipeida. The licence under which Wikipedia content is released allows derivative works, providing their origin is acknowledged.

However, I'm not sure if the various garbled mentions of Wikipedia do constitute attribution, and the line "Mickopedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a feckin' non-profit organization." is certainly somewhat dubious. --ColinFine (talk) 10:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I think all it is doing is pulling en Wiki content and the script (something like Google Translate) on the "Hoax pedia" is just changing the wording. Bidgee (talk) 10:41, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It does attempt to properly attribute content, by linking to the Wikipedia article histories and reproducing information on the licenses used, although the link to the license is broken. Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks gives more info on websites that copy Wikipedia and how to handle copyright/licensing violations. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

RALPH SAMPSON WIKIPEDIA PAGE

I have been trying since 2010 to have the current image of former NBA player Ralph Sampson (full disclosure: I run his foundation & am engaged to him) removed to no avail. I am a little surprised that the current image would be allowed to use for his page, it is a horrible image & the person that posted it should have known better. There are 100's of images of him that depict him in a much more appropriate image that could have been used, this is really not fair to him or his legacy. Also, when you google his name the wikipedia page shows on the google site as married, he's been divorced for almost 15 yrs now; I am not sure where to find that in order to remove it. Finally, I've uploaded some images of him and sent some images to the support desk on yesterday, any help that anyone can do to assist me with this would be greatly appreciated. He is going into the Hall of Fame in September and would like very much for this image to be removed so that when others google him they don't see this...unfortunately, this is what happens when you try to be nice and allow others to take photos of you when you're out in a park living your life but not expecting that they would post to twitter and then it be used as his monicker. Thanks so much for any help or assistance that can be given...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Sampson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Houston50 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As you are associated with him, it should not really be for you to say what is an appropriate image. But I can easily believe that better images exist. If you have uploaded such images to English Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons, with the required copyright permissions, please say where they are, and I or another editor will replace the current scowling one.

I have also added a statement "He was divorced in 2003, and has remarried", with a reference. From what you say, there is more to it than that. So a reference to an independent source, giving his current marital status, would be useful. Maproom (talk) 15:58, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You could upload images here [2] RegardsTheroadislong (talk) 20:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

A couple new images have been uploaded here, on top of older images. An experienced Commons user might need to sort things out. Zagalejo^^^ 02:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If you're talking about the little bio that pops up when you Google Sampson's name (the one that says, "Spouse: Aleize Sampson"), I'm not sure there's anything we can actually do to remove the "Spouse" line. That specific part doesn't seem to be derived from the wiki page, since that name hasn't been mentioned there at any point in the recent past. I'm not sure how Google put that together. Zagalejo^^^ 02:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

IMHO, the newly uploaded images are hideous. If that's all that are available, the one that was previously in the article should be restored. Cresix (talk) 03:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Someone with some Imaging knowledge needs to assist this new user in her earnest efforts to improve the image @ Ralph Sampson. It would be appreciated if that someone would visit User talk:Houston50 and hold her hand during this process. I welcomed her a few days ago and she then reached out to me via email asking for help. But I have ZERO knowledge about Images and what she needs to do to accomplish her simple goal. BTW....there is no need to refer to her images (if they are her images) as hideous. This is the help desk...the last place where attacks should be used as a communicative method. Thanks to whomever chooses to be her hero. ```Buster Seven Talk 05:09, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I advised her on her :en talkpage to take a look at her Commons talkpage and to use it for communication about her image/upload problems. When the problems on this level are solved, there will eventually be a choice of several images of Mr. Sampson, which would then enable local editors to pick best or the most fitting. However, her as-of-yet 2 successful uploads of Sampson shots to Commons don't really look like an improvement. --Túrelio (talk) 13:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Those icons

You know those icons at the top right of a user page? Where can I find a list of these? Legolover26 (talk) 15:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be one. A search is the best I can do right now. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

They are called topicons, by the way. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

See Template:Top icon for many of them and how to make your own. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Article Rating

How can you change an article rating? I know for Good articles and Featured articles they have to be reviewed by someone, but what about changing a stub-class to a start-class? Jainsworth16 (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can change an article's rating (except to GA or FA unless reviewed, as you had mentioned). More information is at Wikipedia:Assessment, but one can judge the article against the quality scale on the Wikipedia:Assessment page. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:35, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Middle East Countires

Back in College I remember in my Geography Book there were only 5 countries of Middle East (Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Syria). Iran and Turkey were part of Empire States and the rest of the Arab countries were part of Arabian Peninsula. Did this change? is Wikipedia and the media wrong? They call any country from India to Libya middle east. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.234.138.54 (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It depends on what qualifications are used to include a country in the Middle East. I do not consider India to Libya in the Middle East. I think that the countries that should be included are Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait,Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Israel, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. Legolover26 (talk) 15:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I guess it also depends on when you went to college - many countries in the Middle East were formed in the latter 20th century. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There is also the Near East - which in the modern historical sense aiui equates roughly with "The Levant" plus Turkey. Roger (talk) 17:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Photos

How do I know if a photo I want to add to a page is use-able (or in other words - how do I know its not copyrighted?)

If I got the image from doing a search on google images, is that okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.219.160 (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Finding the image through Google Images does not guarantee that it is free to use. Maproom (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

A very rough-and-ready guide: it is probably suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia if a) you produced the work yourself (and not on behalf of an employer etc.) or b) the photo was produced before 1923. Anything else gets a little hairier. I'd suggest that the vast majority of images on Google Image Search are still in copyright and therefore unsuitable for Wikipedia's purposes. Brammers (talk/c) 20:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Editing the title of an article

How do I edit the title of an article?

For example to change "John Smith" to "John Smith Sr."

The only way to change a title is to move the article. WP:MOVE explains the process. RudolfRed (talk) 18:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

But before you move an article, have a scan of WP:TITLE to make sure you're following the guidelines there. In particular "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wait a Minim!

I am trying to edit this page: Wait a Minim! I am a creator and cast member of the show I have the new edits in my sandbox, but cannot find the right button to post it all into the page that the public can read. Help! Paul HL Tracey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul HL Tracey (talk • contribs) 20:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You have a big conflict of interest so I strongly suggest you do not edit the page at all, but make your suggestions on the talk page. Kind regardsTheroadislong (talk) 20:39, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

How can I respond to Orangemike, administrator? I am editing a page called Wait a Minim! My edits are factual with no biased opinion involved. Paul HL Tracey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul HL Tracey (talk • contribs) 21:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

See Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There are two primary Wikipedia policies/guidelines involved here, regardless of how factual your edits are: WP:COI and WP:V. You should read each of these carefully. Editors who are affiliated with a subject are strongly encouraged to post their information on an article's talk page so that uninvolved editors can decide what is the most appropriate edits to make. You are quite welcome to discuss any changes on the talk page. As for accuracy, "The threshold for inclusion is Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". No one, including an administrator, can change these policies/guidelines without the consensus of the Wikipedia community. You can save yourself a lot of headaches if you suggest your changes on the article's talk page. Cresix (talk) 22:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Replying to your technical question: it is usual to edit an existing article in place, not in your sandbox. If an article needs a complete rewrite then you might work in a sandbox, and in that case you would need to copy and paste from your sandbox (from an edit box on it, not from the displayed text): but I wouldn't do that without getting consensus on the talk page first. However, as others have said, in this case your best course is to suggest the changes you want on the talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 09:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

AMENDMENT IN INFORMATION

Dear Sir

Information on Karachi Fish harbour on Wikipedia is quite old rather become obsolete. It needs to be updated as per current status. I am Public Relations Officer in Karachi Fisheries Harbour Authority and can provide you update information. Please let me know how can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.50.72 (talk) 20:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As you are associated with the Karachi Fisheries Harbour Authority, you would have a conflict of interest if you edited the article yourself. It would be better if you put your information on the article's talk page, and let other people update the page accordingly. Maproom (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

But the information must be supported by independent reliable sources: somebody's personal or professional knowledge is not enough. --ColinFine (talk) 09:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Your Article on Baboons...

You report that a collective noun for baboons is NOT a congress, and that the term is some kind of joke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baboon

WRONG! Check your handy Webster's Dictionary:

Webster's reports, "The collective noun for baboons is commonly troop or congress." http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/baboon?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=baboon&sa=Search#906

Mini Dunlop, PhD 67.49.132.158 (talk) 22:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I have added a section on the baboon talk page. It may have been discussed before. I think we should have consensus before any changes though. I am going to look through my paper dictionaries now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you notice in the link you gave that the only time "congress" appears is in the section that was copied from an old version of the Wikipedia article. Also take a look at the references given in the Baboon article. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

I fixed the wiktionary and now the link above doesn't show it anymore.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

May 26

I have found out some of the information on the page for Clare Kramer is incorrect. I spoke to her today and she said that "nothing has been signed" in regard to her national tour for Mamma Mia.

I interviewed Clare Kramer today and she said she has no idea where the information about her being in Mamma Mia is erroneous. She says nothing has been signed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.199.74.113 (talk) 00:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I removed the unsourced statement from her article.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, there is no reason why you couldn't have removed the uncited statement either. Dismas|^(talk) 00:29, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested Articles

Excuse me if I'm not in the right place, but I'm not sure where else to ask this. I requested a number of articles some time ago that have yet to be created. Unfortunately, I'm not well experienced when it comes to starting articles on my own. Please help if possible. --Radiokid1010 (talk) 01:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If it helps and in case you didn't notice, that page has a significant backlog. So it's not just your requests that are going unanswered. Dismas|^(talk) 01:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll add that many editors are likely to see a work in progess mentioned here, and may help develop it at articles for creation or your sandbox until it's ready for primetime, although if moved prematurely, new creations are frequently challenged. Dru of Id (talk) 01:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wojciech Szczęsny

On the Szczesny bio, it says he is now playing for Swindon Town. He's not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.73.226.168 (talk) 03:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wojciech Szczęsny (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank you for reporting this. Does it look ok now? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Double image inside an Infobox

Is there a way to put multiple images inside a Biography Infobox?

The Wright Brothers
Born	Orville: (1871-08-19)August 19, 1871, Dayton, Ohio Wilbur: (1867-04-16)April 16, 1867, Millville, Indiana ETC. ETC. ...

I tried the 'double image' and 'multiple image' markup language to do this, and they almost worked, but both methods rendered with some visible stray markup language which I did not add and could not eliminate. It looks like this: [[File:|frameless|alt=]]. Specifically, I'd like to put side-by-side images of the Wright Brothers at the top of a single Infobox, as shown. Other than photo-editing the images into a single file, is there another way to do this, or to clean it up? Thanks. DonFB (talk) 04:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I've seen it done this way, though it's a kludge:

{{Infobox person
| name        = The Wright Brothers<br>
{{double image|center|Orville Wright.jpg|158|Wilbur Wright.jpg|146| <center>Orville (l) and Wilbur (r)}}
| birth_date  = '''Orville''': {{birth date|1871|8|19|}}, Dayton, Ohio<br/>'''Wilbur''': {{birth date|1867|4|16|}}, Millville, Indiana
ETC. ETC. ...
}}

-- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, good suggestion, will preview it on Talk page. DonFB (talk) 09:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I used the smallimage field to put the Olympic rings under the portrait of Avery Brundage, I think it worked well.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

searching for lost friend

please can you locate an address or telephone wether it be a house or cell number name of juan manrrique of pazcuaro michocan mexico — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloria pauline hernandez (talk • contribs) 05:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Dismas|^(talk) 05:31, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Gloria, you will probably get better results if you use the spellings, "Manrique",

"Patzcuaro" and "Michoacan". Even with these improvements, a Google search did not produce

any obvious phone number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.255.191 (talk) 09:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Telmex confine their numbers to their own customers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.255.191 (talk) 09:45, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

User contributions: created pages

Silly question that I would know the answer to at this stage: is is possible to view a list of pages created by a user (e.g. filter user contributions by pages created). --RA (talk) 08:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Try this tool. This is linked from the bottom of the "user contributions" page. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:55, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

That you, sir. --RA (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Cannot get edit to work correctly

hello I am having probs editing this page....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_television#History

it is the page that states Internet TV History...

the story that was there before was incorrect..

I tried and tried to edit it correctly...but kept getting it wrong. and the page will not display correctly etc...can someone possibly straighten this out please... I did try and try and try....without correct results.

here is the correct Info that should go on the HISTORY section of this page.... I cannot get it to display correctly...no matter what I do.

........................................................................................ .............................................................................................

The First 24/7 Internet Television station, Daytona Beach LIVE, http://daytonabeach-live.com/ was Created August 25, 2000 In Daytona Beach, Florida, USA By TheRaven. aka Harold Kionka. Who-Is info:

>>  http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/daytonabeach-live.com

After    Creating  and running  the First  ever Route 66 LIVE  Internet cam,    
 http://web.archive.org/web/19980501063613/http://global66.com/

in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA in 1998, TheRaven then started and ran Albuquerque's first Internet only, radio station Route 66 LIVE, http://web.archive.org/web/20000816065955/http://www.route66live.com/ in 1999.

After running the Radio station with the help of Original Route66Live on-air DJ's Brian "The GETTO" Seymore and "Jupiter Josh Mosh Universal" aka Josh Hernandez, and Original Rt 66 Live program director Stewart "Hip Daddy Deadeye" Kline, for a year,

TheRaven    then moved  to Daytona Beach, Florida, USA    and   started  Daytona Beach LIVE      http://web.archive.org/web/20020605121408/http://daytonabeach-live.com/           in the year 2000,   with   his   First ever  Bikeweek  Internet TV broadcast,     from  atop the  roof of the  Fishin Hole   establishment  in Daytona, Florida, USA 

>>> Fishin' Hole: 450 N Beach St, Daytona Beach, FL 32114, (386) 252-9804.

TheRaven, along with ex-Route66Live.com on-air personality Brian "The GETTO" Seymore, continued to Broadcast Biker events http://www.ojr.org/ojr/workplace/1060223904.php along with many other Daytona Beach and local area events From his Beachside Studio Atop The Beaches Oceanfront Resort, at 1299 S. Atlantic Avenue

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NJ&p_theme=nj&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_text_search-0=%22broadcasting%20on%20a%20shoestring%22&p_field_label-0=Author&s_dispstring=broadcasting%20on%20a%20shoestring%20AND%20date(all)&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no

 http://web.archive.org/web/20021003221011/http://www.volusia.com/beachesoceanfront/     

until the year 2008, when he relocated to Adrian,Michigan, USA and formed the existing Internet TV stations into the Internet TV Network Ravenworld Communications: http://www.ravenworldcommunications.com/

Samples of some of TheRaven's Daytona Beach work: Bikeweek 2003 >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19593795 Daytona Beach Boardwalk Bike Show >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18815179 The Birthplace of Speed 2003 event, from Ormond Beach, Florida, USA >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8851697 Daytona Beach Turkey ROD RUN Hot Rod event >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18317328 First ever NITEtime Christmas Parade, in Ormond Beach, Florida, USA 2002

>>>  http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18360968

Daytona Beach Christmas, Trains, and SANTA >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8144735

DaytonaBeach-Live.com website cirrca: 2005 >> http://web.archive.org/web/20050103092841/http://www.daytonabeach-live.com/

After teaming up with Longtime friend and ex Route66Live.com Radio personality "Jupiter Josh Mosh Universal" aka Josh Hernandez in 2011, TheRaven continues to Jointly Own and Operate the RavenworldCommunications.com Internet TV network from his worldwide base of operations in Adrian,Michigan, USA, and San Antonio, Texas, USA, and continues to specialize in LIVE event Internet TV broadcasting. .

..................................................................................... ..........................................................................................

Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank810z (talk • contribs) 09:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow what a mess of misformatting! Firstly, never start a new line with a space, then take a good look at WP:Referencing for beginners because none of your references are correctly formatted. Inline extrermal links are also frowned upon, see WP:ELNO. But the biggest concern about your addition is actually not its layout, the content is highly promotional, which is not allowed - please see WP:ADVERT. Roger (talk) 09:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If for some reason you are unable to edit the article, the best place to discuss what you want to change on the article's talk page, here Talk:Internet television. But take note of what Roger has said: if you look at what you've posted here, you'll see that it's very hard to read because of your formatting. --ColinFine (talk) 09:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Removing alphabetic subheadings in categories.

Category:Paralympic competitors by disability category contains only six items and won't get any more as those six are the only ones that exist. Having alphabetic subheadings in categories with so few entries is pointless, is there an easy way to eliminate them? Roger (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Not by editing the category itself. Each subcategory could be given a sort key starting with the same character, for example [[Category:Paralympic competitors by disability category|*Amputee]] and so on. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

My organization has changed its name

What is the proper way to reflect that change on Wikipedia? Should I seek administrative assistance in changing the Article Name, or should I prepare a new article with the new name? I apologize that I am unfamiliar with this. Thank you kindly for your time.Lindacbean (talk) 11:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Moved! - David Biddulph (talk) 11:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

donating/log on.

First of all, I m a donor. I have tried to log on to Wikipedia to no avail. I have tried at least 3 times to reset the password. It says an email is sent but it never arrives. It will not let me setup a new account as it says I already have one. Can you assist please?

Pat Comiskey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.224.248.134 (talk) 12:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you checked your email's spam filter? (BTW being a donor is irrelevant to your status as an editor.) Roger (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If you think you know the stored email address for the account then check any spam folders. Your mail service may have one outside your own computer. If this doesn't help and you want to keep the username then you may be able to usurp it but I cannot tell without knowing the name. What is it? You can also create a new account with another name. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thine Antique Pen

Thine Antique Pen has done the following. I am not complaining BTW, neither am I making personal attacks. I just want this to stop:

1. He made a sub-page full of my mistakes here[3], which soon got deleted.
2. I made a delete comment at I am learning [4] in which he said "It's more notable than MyMaths, in my sight". And 2 mins late the MyMaths get's nominated for deletion and the result was "speedy keep".
3. Thus the continued arguments I gave hime the following rules.

"Here is what you need to do:

• Stop visiting my talk page
• Don't comment on me anywhere on this wiki
• Don't critisize and attack me like you did on sunday
• I will not do the same to you

• This is to prevent further disruption and accusations-I personally don't want an intervention ban.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)"

Yet he keeps breaching these rules-I really don't see what's so unfair about them that they need to be breached.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I see that TAP intentionally nominated MyMaths for AfD which is not a good practice and thus discouraged. If not intentionally then no problem (but it looks like it was intented) Anyways if you feel that he is bothering you, ask for interaction ban from him. →TSU ^tp* 14:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Corrections: I don't see what that subpage had to do with your mistakes, but OK. Also, "giving" someone rules isn't the best way to phrase it, but OK. And the AfD was closed per SNOW, not as a Speedy Keep, but OK. The last sentence should read something like "I will extend the same courtesy to you", but OK. The spirit of this request should be granted, and I have asked Thine Antique Pen to do so. Otherwise we'll have to ask for an interaction ban. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, okay! However, I do not look at the article creator when I patrol new pages, or CSD/PROD/AFD them, so if one is Deathlasers, give me a ping on my talk page! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but that page was already two days old when you got to it. Regardless, just make sure to check the history, and when you notify (whether that's done automatically or not) you will see who created it. This little bit of extra care is worthwhile. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

How get the attention of confirmed editor?

I posted a one line edit with a reference to an image at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_May_20,_2012#Photo_Gallery. I am not a confirmed editor, but I uploaded the image to the Commons. The text appears (the Nevada City entry), but the image does not appear, so perhaps the uploading of the image needs to be completed by a confirmed editor. Any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpalmernc (talk • contribs) 14:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

You do not need to be a confirmed editor to add the image, however, I am having trouble locating the image. Will look further.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a user with your name at Commons, did you use a different name? --SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking at recent uploads at Commons, not seeing an eclipse, but I'm searching through just the last few minutes. Do you know what time you uploaded it, or did you add a category?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:26, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

You uploaded the image with quotes around the title, including the file extension. I'm sure that's not what you intended but it is at File:"Annular Eclipse Nevada City CA May 2012.jpg".jpg. I will make a move request to a proper title at the Commons. In the meantime, I have fixed the image name in the article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I mucked up the filenames. I think I saw the quotes around a filename in an example for the upload and I assumed it worked like UNIX filenames on a terminal. I judge from the note on the Commons page ("This request will be dealt with by an administrator or filemover.") that I should do nothing. I'm sure that is the best way to avoid breaking it.Gpalmernc (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Images École nationale de l'aviation civile and Institut Polytechnique des Sciences Avancées

Hi. Writing the articles École nationale de l'aviation civile and Institut Polytechnique des Sciences Avancées, I try to add an image for both of them. But, unfortunately, I can't because I don't have an account. Is there anybody who can help me and add these two images. You can find them here for ENAC : https://etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~contact/logos/logo_enac.png and here for IPSA : http://www.ecole-ingenieurs.com/images/media/concours/logo-ipsa.jpg. Thanks for your help. Kind regards. 80.13.85.217 (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Backgrounds in Infoboxes

Hi. I am confused about how to make a background color for a certain section in an infobox. For example, (and this is just an example), look at the "Background Information" section on Lil Wayne's infobox. The background is gold. I have no idea how to do that, and that's what I'm asking.
--Just a note--
I don't mean the background of just the word, I mean the background of like the whole line. TheBestZebra 21:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

That's done by | background = solo_singer in Template:Infobox musical artist... and that's as far as I can get you. Sorry. Dru of Id (talk) 22:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I got a bit further; at Template:Infobox musical artist/color (in 'View source') it's #35;f0e68c <!-- khaki --> (color code & description). Dru of Id (talk) 01:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Recovering a contribution

I have spent hours writing an article for Wikipedia. When I clicked SAVE PAGE I received an error message that my contribution could not be processed. How can I recover it? Thank you for your assistance Paterimon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paterimon (talk • contribs) 21:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes when you get an error, it may go through credited to the IP address, so you should check the page's 'View history' file. If it does not appear there or on your user contributions Special:Contributions/Paterimon, then it is gone. I frequently copy or cut-and-paste large revisions to a thumb drive or computer file to avoid this loss, especially when an error has already been mentioned here, or an error has already come up for me. Dru of Id (talk) 22:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

It's probably too late now but in many browsers you can use the browser's back button and get back to an edit window with your text. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

On my profile page with Facebook....

There was a mistake made in the location of a school which I attended and posted on my profile using Facebook. Wikipedia sited the school as San Rafael High school in Richmond, Ca. This is incorrect and should read: San Rafael High School, San Rafael, Ca. Please take care of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.38.63.132 (talk) 21:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I empathize, but Facebook's scraping of our Wikipedia pages is beyond our power. Also shortening title of the section. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 21:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If the Wikipedia article is incorrect, can you please tell us which one it is? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article San Rafael High School says that the school is in San Rafael. We have absolutely no control over what Facebook may say. --ColinFine (talk) 21:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Appears to be this Facebook page for San Rafael High School; lists Richmond, California in header, but gives correct address in San Rafael. Dru of Id (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

May 27

black and decker lawnmower s witch button.

how do i find the correctconnection from ablack and decker switch button lawn mower, so i could replace or substitute another type of swit6ch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.228.145 (talk) 00:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 00:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Purpose of a page?

What is the point of Template:Template sandbox? How is that page intended to be used and how is it different from WP:Sandbox? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 00:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

According to the talk page, that page is for for experimenting with templates, where the other sandbox page is for experimenting with editing a normal page. RudolfRed (talk) 00:36, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

One can already experiment with templates in the regular sandbox. I mean, I can create template markup in the regular sandbox. Apart from that, for the purpose of editing a page, I doesn't really matter in which namespace a page is, a page in the template namespace is edited the same way as a page in the main namespace, Wikipedia namespace or any other namespace. Or is that page intended to be transcluded or substituted onto another page itself? I don't get it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 00:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

If you prefer WP:Sandbox or a personal sandbox then just use that. I could quickly think of three potential advantages of Template:Template sandbox. 1) It's overwritten less frequently so you get more time to test transclusion of your code and may easier find it later in the page history. 2) You can transclude it with {{Template sandbox}} like normal templates without having to know how transclusion of other namespaces work (it's a small difference but lots of users don't know it). 3) It's in the template namespace so {{NAMESPACE}} and similar returns the same as if you later use the same code in another template. {{NAMESPACE}} might be used indirectly via a template without a user realising it and it could be quite confusing to some if a test in WP:Sandbox worked differently when the code was copied to a template. See also Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/July 2005#Template:Template sandbox (and others). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, yes, that all makes sense. Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 01:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Bracket help

The 2012 SEC Baseball Tournament has been expanded to 10 teams from 8, so the current {{SECBracket}} won't work. I can't find a 10 team double elimination bracket template and I can't figure out how to edit the code to add another round. It will need to follow this format. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. ~ Richmond96 t • c 01:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Current available options are at Category:10-Team bracket templates (I can't currently view pdf files). Dru of Id (talk) 02:40, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Looks like someone has recently created {{SECBracket2012}} within the last few hours in attempt to address the issue at 2012 SEC Baseball Tournament. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

banks

Who has more banks Cleveland, Oh or Pittsburg, Pa? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.13.40.157 (talk) 03:18, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Cresix (talk) 03:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Robert Skyhawk ^{(T C)} 03:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Terrence Deacon's page vandalized

The Wikipedia page about Professor Terrence Deacon (URL = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Deacon) has been vandalized. Probably by a person (Michael Lissack) who has been systematically attempting to defame him in every possible venue. He appears to have placed self-serving and defaming information about Deacon on the Wikipedia page about him, specifically concerning his 2011 book "Incomplete Nature." To correct this vandalism his modifications should be removed and to prevent further vandalism Mr. Lissack should be blocked from making any edits to this page in the future. The other person who may also attempt to vandalize this page (Alecia Juarrero) is mentioned by Mr. Lissack in his edit. She may also attempt a similar self-serving vandalism so her ability to edit this page should also be blocked. 05:03, 27 May 2012 (UTC)76.206.196.80 (talk)

I've semi-protected the page for two weeks. If there are any further problems, please request re-protection at WP:RFPP. Mjroots (talk) 09:13, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I see no evidence of vandalism here – unless your definition of "vandalism" is "expressing an opinion that I disagree with". The material removed appears to be relevant, accurate, and supported by references. I propose reinstating it. Maproom (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Print size in Wikipedia

Why is the print size in Wikipedia so tiny. It is mostly almost impossible to read. Please work on that. Thank you05:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)05:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)124.182.98.172 (talk)

This is likely a product of the specific browser you are using, and can easily be adjusted. Which browser and version are you accessing Wikipedia with? --Jayron32 05:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Use ctrl and + to increase font size. Mjroots (talk) 09:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15)

Can someone help me please? I look to article for help with my paper. I find nothing on China incident in article, then I find this history section, with old copies of article, no? In history, I think China incident is there, but not when I look at article, so I put back. Then I go to tab to make talk about why I do this. Please check for me, is this right? I have used this Wikipedia lots to look and ask questions but I am not sure as to who is supposed to do what for articles. Thank you 31.186.86.42 (talk) 11:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC) (signature)

FYI - just to clarify, this appears to be about an edit dispute about the inclusion/exclusion of BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15)#Panatag Shoal Standoff. Roger (talk) 11:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why this is here, but I will take a look at it.Desk Ref (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The article on Verona NJ

Fails to mention the famous Uncle Wiggily series, written by Howard R Garis, was inspired by its authors walk through a woods in Verona (I was told this as a child): http://blog.readex.com/how-uncle-wiggily-taught-me-to-read — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.224.97.228 (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Reference Tags

Hi there,

I'm not familiar with writing articles and the certain codes that need to be put into wikipedia.

I'm trying to write an article about my Father in law who competed in the 1960 Olympics, I got a message saying they were going to delete it and I have been trying all day to add the references they are asking for but keep getting errors.

I tried ==References= and also =References=

and tried to make sure the have the right tags for <ref> but its not happening

Any help most appreciated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Din