MonsterHunter32

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Latest comment: 7 years ago by EkoGraf in topic Palmyra offensive

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Thanks

Thanks for your edits on Northern Raqqa offensive (November 2016–present). Feel free to join us and chat with us on the article's talk page :) --Yug (talk) 12:26, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

2017 Fort Lauderdale airport shooting‎

Thanks for all your additions to the 2017 Fort Lauderdale airport shooting‎ article and staying on top of the issue!

I know it's a pain, but if you wouldn't mind adding comments to the edit summary, that would help. Otherwise, people watching the page need to look to the history to see what was done. The description of what you're doing doesn't have to be long (e.g., "more about the gun", "about the gun in Alaska", etc.)

Thanks!—CaroleHenson(talk) 22:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Can't do it everywhere especially when it's a minor edit or I am merely adding information. I do try to mention summaries when changing or removing and when people might have a problem with my edit. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 22:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
I just saw your next edit had a nice, descriptive summary (likely while I was typing this).
You should have a description for each edit. For instance, the confusion that was caused when content was deleted without explanation that resulted in several edits to square it away. If you don't think that's possible, others can catch the news as it comes along. No worries, the major points will get in there.—CaroleHenson(talk) 22:49, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
In this case, which I reverted so we can have a history of the types of edits, you just needed to say "copy edit".—CaroleHenson(talk) 22:52, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your edit on Fort Lauderable, but Herald reference judicial watch (the link in question http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/01/airport-shooter-converted-islam-identified-aashiq-hammad-years-joining-army/ ) and I think it would benefit to have the Primary source (regardless it's position on the subject) as it have key information which is only hinted on Herald and others 5.144.58.225 (talk) 21:45, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
As you're not registered, I'll make my statement again here in case your IP address has shifted and if you cannot read it on the talk page of your IP address. Sorry but neither Judicial Watch is needed, nor linking it will make any real difference. The rules however clearly indicate that we cannot use non-neutral and unreliable sources and Judicial Watch doesn't fulfill the portion because it seems exclusively dedicated to just clinging on to one side of the story that too for apparently political ends. We solely go by Wikipedia's rules of neutrality and reliability. Miami Herald however doesn't cling on to any one side of the story and reported from the claims made by some conservative sites as well as stated about the findings of FBI law enforcement aencies. That's why I used it because it fulfilled all the rules. The only reason I added Judicial Watch's name is because its claim received notability and investigators cross-checked whether it was true. And most of all the article and investigation isn't for alleging who did what etc by Judicial Watch or anyone else, we solely consider the details dug up by the police and federal investigators. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Subjects

Hey, you're doing a decent enough job, but I thought I'd give you some friendly advice. You seem to have chosen a pretty difficult string of articles to contribute to, especially as a newer editor. You aren't doing anything wrong, and you seem to be open minded enough to not get stuck on certain points of view, which are good qualities to have.

I am going to suggest to you a could of things:

  1. Do your best to reduce your edit counts when making changes. You seem to make an edit, and then several more edits to make minor corrections. This makes it difficult for others to come in and help make changes, as it becomes a bit convoluted. Just take your time and proof read your edit a few times before finalizing your edit. Use the preview button, it is very helpful
  2. I was looking through your edit history and noticed you almost exclusively edit on these attacks and terror related incidents. These can be rather difficult subjects to edit on, as there are a lot of moving parts, and a lot of people trying to cram information into the articles as fast as possible. Some people have good intentions in mind, others are trying to push an agenda. I would suggest to you, to continue monitoring these types of articles, but do some work on article that are not so contentious. This will help you learn more about Wikipedia policy, while not in such a crazy environment.

Keep up the good work though. If you need anything, just hit me up on my talk page.  {MordeKyle  01:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sorry it sometimes just gets difficult to figure out how to properly write the article or add the material. Sometimes I overdetail the material. It gets difficult to figure out what to keep and not to keep. Anything that clearly doesn't fulfill the rules should be removed, but if it does fulfill the rules then it gets troublesone especially if the information is long. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Al-Bab

Its actually not really a matter of who is reporting, but what is being reported. I have no problem with taking into account what the Turkish military states. However, Wikipedia has guidelines on notability and giving something undue weight. This is an encyclopedia, not a blog for anything related to Operation Euphrates Shield. That there are no reports of advances for longer periods doesn't mean we need to fill in the blank periods with daily reports of deaths. For example, what encyclopedic purpose does it have to report that one soldier died of wounds on a specific date? Also, for example, the Siege of Homs (Syria war article) does not list how many people were killed on each day of the siege, or how many targets were hit on each day (only the most notable or semi-notable news is listed). We have the infobox where we list overall figures of fatalities claimed by each side. You should review WP policy in this regard. EkoGraf (talk) 00:42, 13 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Please see the article's talk page I have already stated the reasons there. Thank you for talking to me. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 00:46, 13 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
I have a compromise proposal. How about we use all of those individual reports and give a summarized report in once sentence on how many strikes of ISIL targets were reported by the military during the specific month? I will try and restructure the article with this in mind. EkoGraf (talk) 00:46, 13 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Palmyra offensive

MonsterHunter32, both LightandDark2000, Vorman and me are clearly in consensus over the issue. First, there are no sources confirming that the sporadic clashes that took place recently near the base were part of an organised ISIL offensive. Second, Al-Masdar News has been deemed reliable or at least semi-reliable by Wikipedia editors after several discussions in the past even though its pro-government. And third, even if Wikipedia editors have deemed Masdar unreliable (which they haven't), numerous other sources have been provided citing the current fighting as part of a new SAA-initiated offensive that has been launched. At least two of which are anti-government. These are pro-opposition SOHR [1], Aranews [2] and IB News [3]. If you want, and if this new offensive becomes notable enough, you can create a new article for this new offensive. PS I have left this same message on the article's talk page. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 01:56, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Why aren't you talking on the article's talk page instead of messaging me? MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:58, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Did you read my PS sentence? I left the message as well there first, but left one here as well in case you didn't see the one on the article talk page. EkoGraf (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
I did, but you don't need to post double comments on my talk page as well. Simply notify me that you have left a message there. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 02:06, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Left reply on talk page. EkoGraf (talk) 03:12, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

1RR

Actually, I made only one revert (of you) in the last 24 hours, this one here [4]. My previous edit here [5] was an edit based on multiple new sources (that I linked for you) which are not pro-government and confirm a totally new offensive has been launched. I myself could have accused you of breaking 1RR first since these two edits/reverts you made [6][7], even though not within 24 hours, took place within 25 hours. 1RR/3RR can be applied if reverts also take place only a short while after 24 hours (57 minutes in this case). However, I did not want to accuse you of breaking 1RR, because instead I wanted to discuss the issue with you and point out that several sources that are not pro-government (two of which are in fact anti-government) are also confirming a totally new offensive has been launched in the area by the SAA. So, I would recommend to refrain from any accusations and point out that you are able to create a totally new article that who's subject would be this totally new offensive. EkoGraf (talk) 02:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I had no intention of blaming you for anything, instead you first started blaming me instead of trying to discuss the issue. Even so, I am still open here for discussing the issue with you. And that you are showing indication that you will edit war is pretty obvious considering you reverted a total of four editors (including me) who made any kinds of edits towards closing the offensive. Also, you seem to have misunderstood something, LightanDark2000's edit is from five-six days ago, my edit is from today, they did not take place in a span of 24 hours. And even if they did I am not responsible for what LightanDark2000 decides to edit. With this edit [8] you reverted Mehmedsons, while with this [9] you reverted me. In any case, I would ask that you refrain from any blame game and continue discussing the issue. I am currently writing a reply on the article's talk page. EkoGraf (talk) 02:46, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
How aren't you blaiming me if you are accusing me of violating 1RR? You say revert is not about how much older edit you have reverted back to. Revert is a revert and you have reverted twice. You don't accept you violated 1RR when you made two reverts in 24 hours and 57 minutes, but you do accuse me of making two reverts when there are five days between my and LightandDark2000's edits. You made three reverts in four days of three different editors (including me) who all attempted to write that the ISIL attack on T4 has been repulsed. In any case, I am only interested in discussing the issue instead of blaiming anyone. PS Still writing my reply on the article's talk page. EkoGraf (talk) 03:04, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Reply