Talk:Abdin, Daraa Governorate

Latest comment: 12 days ago by Al Ameer son in topic 16th-century defters

16th-century defters

edit

Hello Huldra. Can you please provide the Ottoman tax info for this village (Abdin), as well as for Hit, Daraa Governorate and Beit Ara?

Thank you, as always Al Ameer (talk) 05:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

and now Kuwaya and Nafia... Al Ameer (talk) 16:41, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Abdin, Hit, Daraa Governorate and Kuwaya done. Cannot find Nafia? Huldra (talk) 23:07, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
And Beit Ara done,Huldra (talk) 23:30, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Huldra: Thank you for the additions. I thought I saw Nafia in your HA list but I was mistaken. However, I do see Zayzun (assuming it's the same one). Just added Schumacher's description to it. Can you please add the 16th-century info? --Al Ameer (talk) 14:31, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Huldra: @Al Ameer: According to their map, HA suspect that Nafia was called Bayt Ikkar (top of p199). But this seems too speculative to use. Zerotalk 14:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Zero0000: Agree—too speculative for Nafia, but very likely to be the ‘Beit Akkar’ ruin west of the Nahr al-Allan described at length by Schumacher (1886, pp. 53–60). —Al Ameer (talk) 18:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good catch. HA cite Schumacher a lot so they should have caught it. Zerotalk 01:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:Al Ameer son: Zayzun, Daraa and Ma'ariya done, Huldra (talk) 21:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Huldra: Thank you! More on the way. Stay tuned. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

HA does't add up

edit

User:Zero0000: Like on Chehabiyeh I don't get the HA numbers to add up, could you please check if it is my math or HA which is wrong? cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Huldra: Seems ok to me. 12 family heads, 8 bachelors, 20 total. Zerotalk 13:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:Zero0000: (7,050 akçe) + barley (3,150 a.)+ summer crops (1,890 a.), goats and/or beehives (500) + in addition to taxes on a water mill (30 a.) ? occasional revenues (500 a.); =13,000 akçe?? Huldra (talk) 20:30, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Same problem at Ma'ariya: 450 + 180 + 70 + 50 + 50 = 900?? Huldra (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply