Euskata

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Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to User:Thulean, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. Thulean 00:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. Vandalising a user's talk page is a funny way of proving that you aren't a vandal. CMacMillan 00:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Etiquette

The statement you made on this edit when you said "You Dark Tichondriac are sicko racist " is against Wikipedia's policy on etiquette which says to not call other users racist.--Dark Tichondrias 01:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Your personal attack

Your statement on this edit when you called User:Thulean a "nuisance people" is against Wikipedia's policy on personal attacks which suggests not inulting other users.--Dark Tichondrias 01:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Even if another editor is a racist, that is not an excuse to vandalize their user pages nor is it an excuse to engage in personal attacks. JoshuaZ 01:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Given your previous problems, my instinct was that it was an insult or some other issue (especially given that it seems like problematic editors are far more likely to use other languages). If my rollback was in error I apologize. That doesn't make my above comment any less valid about your behavior to other users. JoshuaZ 02:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

It isn't xenophobic, its an observation. I've noticed it most often in Hebrew where I speak the language. The native hebrew speakers who are problematic editors more often revert to Hebrew than the less problematic ones. Similarly, we had a serious problem last year with a set of serbian editors discussing how they planned to votestack/ making personal attacks in Serbian. I think it has something to do with people going back to their native tongues when they are emotional in some cases and in some of the other cases a deliberate attempt to avoid other users understanding what is going on, which is obviously unacceptable. In fact, sugaar for just that reason asks people on that talk page to use English. Accusing people of xenophobia might also constitute a personal attack. Furthermore, this is all completely irrelevant to the basic point which I will repeat to make sure you get it "Even if another editor is a racist, that is not an excuse to vandalize their user pages nor is it an excuse to engage in personal attacks." JoshuaZ 02:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding [1] please don't call content disputes vandalism. Furthermore, please be careful of WP:3RR. That said, if you think that the previous account was a sockpuppet (which seems very likely to me) I suggest you make a request on WP:RFCU where sockpuppetry can be conclusively determined. JoshuaZ 02:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

White People

You have now reverted this article fully and partially over three times in the past 24 hours. This is a violation of the 3RR rule and violation of the 3RR rule is a banishable offense. This is a serious offense and has an expedited system for dealing with it. I recommend that you revert your last reversion. Failure to do so quickly will result in your violation being reported. Thulean 02:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thulean, as the admin dealing with the situation, I am going to have to correct you a bit- one it is not a "banishable" offence, very little is. You might mean "blockable" Furthermore, as the admin attempting to deal with the situation if I block anyone it will most likely be both of you given that your sockpuppeting seems to be so obvious as to almost not merit checkuser. Now, why don't both of you calm down and try to discuss the matter like adults? JoshuaZ 02:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, checkuser found no connection between the two users. If B0r3d is a sock, it is well-disguised. I strongly suggest you both cooperate with the mediation procedure and see if that helps. JoshuaZ 05:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thulean's page

Hi Euskata, I'm no fan of Thulean, I think he is a pov pusher and can be a bit of a bully, but I always try to assume good faith. This is my personal opinion about Thulean and not a personal attack. But really mate, it's not worth vandalising his user page. Honestly the best response is to try to be cool and polite at all times. You will get blocked if you vandalise other people's user pages, and this is not a threat from me, I've seen too many good editors get blocked for losing their cool (and I've seen good people leave the community due to bullying). Try to stay calm and argue on the merits of each case. I'm offering this in the spirit of friendly advice, I know some users can be frustrating. It's always best to assume good faith. All the best. Alun 12:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)