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===Etymology===
* {{sense|working-class youth}} From the name {{m|en|Herbert}}. The term was popularised by the [[punk]] movement but predates it.
* {{sense|pervert}} From the similarity in sound.
 
===Pronunciation===
* {{a|GA}} {{IPA|en|/ˈhɝbɚt/|a=GA}}
* {{a|RP}} {{IPA|en|/ˈhɜːbət/|a=RP}}
* {{audio|en|En-au-herbert.ogg|Audio (a=AU)}}
* {{hyph|en|her|bert}}
 
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# {{lb|en|slang|[[punk]] subculture}} A [[working-class]] [[youth]], especially male.
#* {{quote-book|en|year=1963|author={{w|:Spike Milligan}}|title=Puckoon|url=https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Puckoon/vat2BAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=spotty+faced+herberts&pg=PT103&printsec=frontcover|passage=It was the Ulster Annual Jamboree. For weeks past, hundreds of spotty-faced '''herberts''', with yodelling voices and chin fuzz, had tied three million knots, started ten thousand twig fires, and completed six hundred leaf fires; perfect training for round about 3000BC but bloody useless in the twentieth century.}}
#* {{quote-book|en|year=2000|author=John King|title=Human punk|passage={{...}} everything was busy now with the usual mix of '''herberts''', and because this was Brunel University there was a lot of students, the sort who wouldn't normally go see a punk band {{...}}}}
#* {{quote-text|en|year=2007|author=Bobby Smith|author2=; Margaret Oshindele-Smith|title=One Love Two Colours
|passage=Because of my appearance, I was accosted by a couple of spotty '''herberts''' on the way {{...}}}}
#* {{quote-book|en|year=2007|author=Paul Marko|title=The Roxy London WC2: A Punk History|passage=I was a proto-hippy in '66 - '67 and by about August '67 the bandwagon jumpers, the media and all manner of assorted '''herberts''' had turned up to spoil everything.}}
#* {{quote-web|1=en|date=2019-04-15|author=Stuart Jeffries|site={{w|:Guardian Online}}|title=Ghosts review - a silly sitcom that will make you die laughing|url=https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2019/apr/15/ghosts-review-tv-to-give-you-a-right-giggle-at-the-supernatural|passage=Into this haunted house stumble a couple of modern-day '''herberts''', Alison and Mike (Charlotte Ritchie and Kiell Smith-Bynoe). They have inherited Button Hall after the last of the Button family died. When they arrive to take stock of the place, the unseen ghosts mill around the couple in the great hall - and some don't like what they see. "She's exposing her knees! And she's got a tattoo! exclaims the buttoned-up Edwardian Lady Button.|accessdate=9 June 2023|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20190416053445/https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2019/apr/15/ghosts-review-tv-to-give-you-a-right-giggle-at-the-supernatural|archivedate=16 April 2019}}
# {{lb|en|slang}} A [[foolish]] or [[contemptible]] person, especially male.
#* {{seeCites|en}}
# {{rfv-sense|en}}{{lb|en|slang}} A [[pervert]].
#* {{quote-av|en|year=2007|author={{w|:Arctic Monkeys}}|title=D Is for Dangerous|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w6WlfdPSms|text="He knew what he wanted to say / but he didn't know how to word it / The dirty little '''herbert''' was seeking an escape"}}
#* {{quote-web|1=en|date=2012-02-24|author=Rosanna Greenstreet|site={{w|:Guardian Online}}|url=https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/feb/24/paddy-considine-actor-director|title=The Q&A Paddy Considine|passage=She got home two hours late and her dad (now my father-in-law) thought I was some dirty '''herbert''' corrupting his daughter, but we were in love.|accessdate=8 June 2023|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20151009210443/https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/feb/24/paddy-considine-actor-director|archivedate=9 October 2015}}
#* {{quote-book|en|year=2018|author=J.S.Morin|title=Mercy For Hire Mission Pack 1: Missions 1-4|url=https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=C0aCDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT269&lpg=PT269&dq=%22filthy+Herbert%22&source=bl&ots=hCXbtJGftz&sig=ACfU3U2pDy_ZHnIf0bI_2D83RA1lFjtSYg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiNper9qLT_AhVGg1wKHQAUDXo4FBDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=%22filthy%20Herbert%22&f=false|passage=Thaddeus [said] "But you don't have the town covering for you anymore. Your secret's out." {{...}} "Fuck me if I'm chasing this filthy '''Herbert'''," Titch said, flicking his badge. {{...}} Thaddeus leveled a finger at him like a loaded blaster. "You're going to pay for what you did to my little girl."}}
 
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