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*{{against}} ''That's'' a bit overpowered. I'm fine with themediting full protected pages, but no more then that. {{User: Gale5050/sig2}} 17:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC) |
*{{against}} ''That's'' a bit overpowered. I'm fine with themediting full protected pages, but no more then that. {{User: Gale5050/sig2}} 17:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC) |
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*: I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am {{for|for}} changing the score like that, it's more realistic. -{{User: Gale5050/sig2}} 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC) |
*: I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am {{for|for}} changing the score like that, it's more realistic. -{{User: Gale5050/sig2}} 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC) |
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*{{For}} as initiator. This would be of especially high relevance for users such as [[User:JJPMaster]] and [[User:Zana Dark]], who have demonstrated a high need to often process large numbers of pages, creating and [[QVFD]]ing them quite often. As such, bundling deletion and undeletion /w interface admin would be a great way to basically make interface admin the "edit-whatever-you-want" user right. {{User:Kev/s|23:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)}} |
*{{For}} as initiator. This would be of especially high relevance for users such as [[User:JJPMaster]] and [[User:Zana Dark]], who have demonstrated a high need to often process large numbers of pages, creating and [[QVFD]]ing them quite often. As such, bundling deletion and undeletion /w interface admin would be a great way to basically make interface admin the "edit-whatever-you-want" user right. {{User:Kev/s|23:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)}} |
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*{{for}} This will hopefully make Zana stop accidentally nominating special pages for QVFD. {{User:JJPMaster/newsig}} 23:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC) |
*{{for}} This will hopefully make Zana stop accidentally nominating special pages for QVFD. {{User:JJPMaster/newsig}} 23:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC) |
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*: I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am {{for|for}} changing the score like that; it's more realistic. -{{User: Gale5050/sig2}} 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC) |
*: I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am {{for|for}} changing the score like that; it's more realistic. -{{User: Gale5050/sig2}} 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 14:10, 8 April 2021
Forums: Index > Village Dump > Interface operator reform
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Hi y'all! I was thinking of reforming the interface administrator role into something more suited as a "basic level adminning" role. This would mean letting interface operators edit full-protected pages. I think that implementing such a thing would be of great use to many of our users, including ones highly active with reskinning (e.g. Zombiebaron), ones highly active with templating (e.g. Zana Dark), and ones highly active with tinkering with the site in general (e.g. JJPMaster). Currently, interface operator status basically means nothing since it only allows you to edit common.js and common.css, as well as other peoples' CSS and JS pages; these are already full-protected so it's kind of nonsensical to keep interface admin in its current state. Please let me know whatcha think!
I've also added a secondary vote concerning whether interface operators should be able to protect and unprotect pages. User:Kev/s
I've also added a tertiary vote concerning deleting and undeleting articles. It's interface stuff after all! Maybe we could rename interface operator to more like "text operator". User:Kev/s
Vote (edit full protected pages)
Score: 8
For. as proposal initiator. User:Kev/s- For. If JJPMaster can't be admin, giving him interface admin would be great! Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 12:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- For. MrX blow me
14:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC) - For -- The Zombiebaron 14:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- For. Sounds good to me.
PF4Eva, the President of Imagination Vote for me My tax returns 15:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC) - For. --Товарищ Rooomy of the Soviet Union (Yell at me ~ Woo) 17:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- For. It seems like this one is obvious. ~Formerly Annoying Crap 23:36, 1 April 2021
- For —
(talk) (contributions) 04:59:45 2021/04/04 UTC
For. as proposal initiator. 
Vote (protect/unprotect pages)
Score: 1
- For. as initiator. User:Kev/s
Against. That's a bit overpowered. I'm fine with themediting full protected pages, but no more then that. Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 17:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)- Strong for, but not so that we can actually protect pages, but because having the
protectright allows us to edit pages that are protected under cascading protection, such as {{editnotice load/content}}. JJPMaster 17:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)- I still don't think you should be editing any cascade protected pages and to my knowledge, the Main Page is the only one. Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 18:03, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- A few others include {{MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext}}, {{MediaWiki:Common.js}}, {{Editnotice load}}, and one of Aimsplode's signature templates for some reason. JJPMaster 18:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- IMO Aimsplode's sig should remain that way or be deleted. Deny recognition. Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 18:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- A few others include {{MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext}}, {{MediaWiki:Common.js}}, {{Editnotice load}}, and one of Aimsplode's signature templates for some reason. JJPMaster 18:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I still don't think you should be editing any cascade protected pages and to my knowledge, the Main Page is the only one. Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 18:03, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- For. I'm not sure the ability to protect and unprotect pages is 'powerful,' but it is something that users would be seeking from an admin, and if contacted, it would make things easier for said admin. There is not much you can do on this website that can't be undone. ~Formerly Annoying Crap 23:34, 1 April 2021
- Yes, but Kev only being on twice a day is a problem if we grant too much power. -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 01:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- For. MrX blow me 04:21, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Against — (talk) (contributions) 04:59:45 2021/04/04 UTC
- I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am for changing the score like that, it's more realistic. -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am
- Against -- The Zombiebaron 14:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Against. That's a bit overpowered. I'm fine with themediting full protected pages, but no more then that. Delete and undelete pages
Score: 1
- For. as initiator. This would be of especially high relevance for users such as User:JJPMaster and User:Zana Dark, who have demonstrated a high need to often process large numbers of pages, creating and QVFDing them quite often. As such, bundling deletion and undeletion /w interface admin would be a great way to basically make interface admin the "edit-whatever-you-want" user right. User:Kev/s
- For. This will hopefully make Zana stop accidentally nominating special pages for QVFD. JJPMaster 23:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Extremely extremely strong against Can we stop giving non admins so much power? Seriously. Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 00:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's called interface admin for a reason. That's why this userrole requires VFS. User:Kev/s
- Even still, if we make it too overpowered, then there will be no point in admin! Still against and not budging. -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 00:17, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's called interface admin for a reason. That's why this userrole requires VFS. User:Kev/s
- For. MrX blow me 04:21, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Why am I always on the losing side? -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 13:28, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- ☺️ User:Kev/s
- Why am I always on the losing side? -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 13:28, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Kev is not the only admin that can undo mistakes. 'Undeletion' is the key note. ~Formerly Annoying Crap 22:06, 2 April 2021
- Yes, but other "active" admins like PF4Eva and Kakun aren't that active. Though both have stopped LSD #11. -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 00:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Against — (talk) (contributions) 04:59:45 2021/04/04 UTC
- I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am for changing the score like that; it's more realistic. -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'm wondering if we should have the score as it is, or if we should do a think where it displays for/against like VFH, as I am wondering if it would need more then 50%. Not saying it will, but might. This is 4-2. I am
- Against -- The Zombiebaron 14:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Does deletion even count as interface stuff?
Score: -1
- Against. Nah, just as much as blocking is. Protecting pages could reasonably work as interface stuff but not deletion, which isn’t even interface stuff. -Gale5050 aka Andrew5 let's talk! See me on WP! Do not click before August 13:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)