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:''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a '''successful''' [[wikipedia:requests for adminship|request for adminship]]. <strong style="color:red">Please do not modify it</strong>.[[Category:Successful requests for adminship|{{SUBPAGENAME}}]]'' |
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===[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Snowolf|Snowolf]]=== |
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'''Final (52/4/5); Closed as successful by <span style="font-family:Verdana;">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> at 02:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)''' |
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<span class="plainlinks">'''[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Snowolf|action=edit§ion=4}} Voice your opinion]'''</span> ([[Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Snowolf|talk page]]) |
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'''(51/4/5); Scheduled to end 02:08, [[11 December]] [[2007]] (UTC)''' |
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{{User|Snowolf}} - This is an exemplary user. His contributions are endless, and is one of those users who is long overdue an RfA (reminiscent of [[User:Daniel|Daniel]], some months ago). He has been of massive help to me with the administration of [[WP:NPW|NPWatcher]], and unfailingly is willing to give his assistance at the slightest indication of need. Constantly polite to newbies, he is also an accomplished vandal fighter, with probably hundreds of reports to WP:AIV, and is certainly very fair to those who would see fit to cause harm to the project - attempting to encourage them to improve before going down the road of reporting. All of my interactions with this user have been positive, and I have never had any cause to doubt his suitability as a potential administrator, yet have been overwhelmed with reasons that he should be promoted. I'm sure that I don't need to go on. If, for any reason, you have any doubt, his contributions are but a click away. Thanks, [[User:Martinp23|Mart]]'''[[User_talk:Martinp23|inp23]]''' 20:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC) |
{{User|Snowolf}} - This is an exemplary user. His contributions are endless, and is one of those users who is long overdue an RfA (reminiscent of [[User:Daniel|Daniel]], some months ago). He has been of massive help to me with the administration of [[WP:NPW|NPWatcher]], and unfailingly is willing to give his assistance at the slightest indication of need. Constantly polite to newbies, he is also an accomplished vandal fighter, with probably hundreds of reports to WP:AIV, and is certainly very fair to those who would see fit to cause harm to the project - attempting to encourage them to improve before going down the road of reporting. All of my interactions with this user have been positive, and I have never had any cause to doubt his suitability as a potential administrator, yet have been overwhelmed with reasons that he should be promoted. I'm sure that I don't need to go on. If, for any reason, you have any doubt, his contributions are but a click away. Thanks, [[User:Martinp23|Mart]]'''[[User_talk:Martinp23|inp23]]''' 20:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:''Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:'' I accept. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
:''Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:'' I accept. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 02:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:'''Quuestion from [[User:B]]''' |
:'''Quuestion from [[User:B]]''' |
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:'''8.''' Can you elaborate on the issue mentioned in your block log? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Snowolf] Was it an appropriate block? How have you learned from the issue? --[[User:B|B]] ([[User talk:B|talk]]) 06:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
:'''8.''' Can you elaborate on the issue mentioned in your block log? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Snowolf] Was it an appropriate block? How have you learned from the issue? --[[User:B|B]] ([[User talk:B|talk]]) 06:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::'''A.''' It was in the middle of the Essjay controversy. After posting some opinions () in the straw poll that there was at the time, I went to bed. Then I thought... wait, you can post a barnstar or something on his talk, it may be appreciated in such a time. So the next morning, when I had a minute free, I posted the barnstar. The barnstar stated that I thanked him for his "valueless contributions". A user pointed out on my talk page that probably there was a misunderstanding and I mean something else (I did voted in favor of Essjay keeping his flags in the straw poll). When I got back home, I have realized that I've been blocked and filed an unblock request explaining that I didn't realized that valueless meant without any value, but thought, well, countless isn't necessary good, as the edit count doesn't matter much, so I thought countless "that cannot be counted" → valueless "that their value cannot be judged". See relevant diffs [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowolf&diff=prev&oldid=112311521 unblock request], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowolf&diff=prev&oldid=112312000 further edit to my request], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowolf&diff=prev&oldid=112317089 requesting unblock of the ip]]. I've asked on IRC if there was an admin willing to check an unblock request, and [[User:Ryan Delaney|Ryan Delaney]] unblocked me. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
::'''A.''' It was in the middle of the Essjay controversy. After posting some opinions () in the straw poll that there was at the time, I went to bed. Then I thought... wait, you can post a barnstar or something on his talk, it may be appreciated in such a time. So the next morning, when I had a minute free, I posted the barnstar. The barnstar stated that I thanked him for his "valueless contributions". A user pointed out on my talk page that probably there was a misunderstanding and I mean something else (I did voted in favor of Essjay keeping his flags in the straw poll). When I got back home, I have realized that I've been blocked and filed an unblock request explaining that I didn't realized that valueless meant without any value, but thought, well, countless isn't necessary good, as the edit count doesn't matter much, so I thought countless "that cannot be counted" → valueless "that their value cannot be judged". See relevant diffs [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowolf&diff=prev&oldid=112311521 unblock request], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowolf&diff=prev&oldid=112312000 further edit to my request], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Snowolf&diff=prev&oldid=112317089 requesting unblock of the ip]]. I've asked on IRC if there was an admin willing to check an unblock request, and [[User:Ryan Delaney|Ryan Delaney]] unblocked me. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 06:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::I think that the blocking admin should have checked my edits before blocking me, my last edits were to the straw poll, where, even with reservation, I supported Essjay (so it wasn't much likely that then I go and posted such an incivil message to his talk), and with the suggestion made by another user that I may have made such an error typing valueless instead of countless, a block wasn't helping much. Instead, another user, William Petri - at the time it wasn't an admin, (prior to my block) asked explanations on my talk page. Blocks should be used, in my opinion, very carefully. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
::I think that the blocking admin should have checked my edits before blocking me, my last edits were to the straw poll, where, even with reservation, I supported Essjay (so it wasn't much likely that then I go and posted such an incivil message to his talk), and with the suggestion made by another user that I may have made such an error typing valueless instead of countless, a block wasn't helping much. Instead, another user, William Petri - at the time it wasn't an admin, (prior to my block) asked explanations on my talk page. Blocks should be used, in my opinion, very carefully. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 07:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::'''Comment''', I beleive what you might have had in mind was "priceless" or something similar.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 00:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
:::'''Comment''', I beleive what you might have had in mind was "priceless" or something similar.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 00:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Yes <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
::::Yes <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 00:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Sounds like a [[Mastercard#Advertising|Mastercard moment]] gone all wrong. --< |
:::::Sounds like a [[Mastercard#Advertising|Mastercard moment]] gone all wrong. --<span style="font-family:Futura;">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] </span> 14:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:'''Questions from Jc37''' |
:'''Questions from Jc37''' |
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*I wish that editors would note that answering the ''optional'' questions is ''optional'', and probably shouldn't result in an automatic oppose. Read through the candidates contributions and talk page; that should answer the questions. Either a user knows policy or doesn't, contributed to the encyclopedia or hasn't, and the result of conflicts should be glaring obvious in talk archives. Questions are not a big deal. As recently as 18 months ago they used to be placed at the ''bottom'' of an RfA but got moved to the top because people ''weren't even paying attention to them''. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. [[User:Keegan|<font color="maroon">Keegan</font>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Keegan|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 06:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
*I wish that editors would note that answering the ''optional'' questions is ''optional'', and probably shouldn't result in an automatic oppose. Read through the candidates contributions and talk page; that should answer the questions. Either a user knows policy or doesn't, contributed to the encyclopedia or hasn't, and the result of conflicts should be glaring obvious in talk archives. Questions are not a big deal. As recently as 18 months ago they used to be placed at the ''bottom'' of an RfA but got moved to the top because people ''weren't even paying attention to them''. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. [[User:Keegan|<font color="maroon">Keegan</font>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Keegan|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 06:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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*:Yes, and your precedent cited below is perfectly acceptable... if the candidate doesn't answer at all, but answering the questions with the original, fairly nonexistant answers is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot. If the candidate doesn't wish to answer them, thats fine, but once they put some nice little one liners up, that is what will be judged, and they become answered questions, not optional ones. [[User:Dureo|Dureo]] ([[User talk:Dureo|talk]]) 12:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
*:Yes, and your precedent cited below is perfectly acceptable... if the candidate doesn't answer at all, but answering the questions with the original, fairly nonexistant answers is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot. If the candidate doesn't wish to answer them, thats fine, but once they put some nice little one liners up, that is what will be judged, and they become answered questions, not optional ones. [[User:Dureo|Dureo]] ([[User talk:Dureo|talk]]) 12:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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*I'm very sorry for the poor answering of the questions. I hope that now I've cleared your doubts. If note, please help me by asking more specific questions, which I would be more than happy to answer! Only, I would ask from you one thing: try to go beyond my poor answering and decide if in your opinion I can be trusted with a few more buttons or would I do any damage around ;-) <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
*I'm very sorry for the poor answering of the questions. I hope that now I've cleared your doubts. If note, please help me by asking more specific questions, which I would be more than happy to answer! Only, I would ask from you one thing: try to go beyond my poor answering and decide if in your opinion I can be trusted with a few more buttons or would I do any damage around ;-) <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 12:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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=====Support===== |
=====Support===== |
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#His bot site is very helpful and he is a very helpful user. [[User talk:Monobi|Monobi]] 02:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#His bot site is very helpful and he is a very helpful user. [[User talk:Monobi|Monobi]] 02:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' This user has shown much experience in dealing with vandalism and new users.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 02:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' This user has shown much experience in dealing with vandalism and new users.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 02:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' Experienced and trustworthy user, will make very good use of the tools. <strong>< |
#'''Support''' Experienced and trustworthy user, will make very good use of the tools. <strong>[[User:Husond|<span style="color:#082567;">Hús</span>]][[User:Husond/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">ö</span>]][[User talk:Husond|<span style="color:#082567;">nd</span>]]</strong> 02:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#Although I would like better answers, '''support''' <span style="font-family:Arial;color:blue"> '''''Cheers,[[User:JetLover|Je]][[User talk:JetLover|t]][[Special:Contributions/JetLover|Lover]] ([[User:JetLover/False reverts|Report a mistake]])'''''</span> 03:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#Although I would like better answers, '''support''' <span style="font-family:Arial;color:blue"> '''''Cheers,[[User:JetLover|Je]][[User talk:JetLover|t]][[Special:Contributions/JetLover|Lover]] ([[User:JetLover/False reverts|Report a mistake]])'''''</span> 03:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#I don't need answers, [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ragesoss|example is enough]]. I don't need article writing, that has absolutely no relation to the use of the tools. As for lack of conflicts, perhaps we should begin to think that that is a '''good''' thing in a candidate. I have somewhere near 10,000 edits, 4,000 admin actions and over two years experience with only one complaint in my belt. I trust the user. [[User:Keegan|<font color="maroon">Keegan</font>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Keegan|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 06:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#I don't need answers, [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ragesoss|example is enough]]. I don't need article writing, that has absolutely no relation to the use of the tools. As for lack of conflicts, perhaps we should begin to think that that is a '''good''' thing in a candidate. I have somewhere near 10,000 edits, 4,000 admin actions and over two years experience with only one complaint in my belt. I trust the user. [[User:Keegan|<font color="maroon">Keegan</font>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Keegan|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 06:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Strong Support''' - (edit conflict) Although I agree with JetLover that more fleshed-out answers would be appreciated, based on his actions on Wikipedia there is no doubt in my mind that Snowolf both needs and can be trusted with the tools. While I understand that article writing may be a desired trait in an admin who intends to take part in conflict resolution and other areas where they might benefit from experience in collaboration and compromise, this user is primarily focused on vandal fighting and deletion discussions, both of which are vital to the project and both of which he performs very well, as evidenced by his [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&contribs=user&target=Snowolf&namespace=3 user talk warnings] and comments in XfD discussions. His answer about "finding admins" may be made clearer by a visit to [[User:Snowolf/Admin_scout]], and I believe his high number of AIV reports (111) and participation in [[WP:UCFD]] are both desirable traits in a candidate who wants to take on the admin tasks that he has noted above. I might also point out his position as a moderator for [[WP:VPRF]] speaks to his dedication not only to vandal fighting but to the project as a whole. --'''[[User:jonny-mt|jonny-mt]]'''<sup>('''[[User_talk:jonny-mt|t]]''')</sup><sub>('''[[Special:Contributions/jonny-mt|c]]''')</sub><small>[[Wikipedia:Editor_review/jonny-mt|I'm on editor review!]]</small> 06:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Strong Support''' - (edit conflict) Although I agree with JetLover that more fleshed-out answers would be appreciated, based on his actions on Wikipedia there is no doubt in my mind that Snowolf both needs and can be trusted with the tools. While I understand that article writing may be a desired trait in an admin who intends to take part in conflict resolution and other areas where they might benefit from experience in collaboration and compromise, this user is primarily focused on vandal fighting and deletion discussions, both of which are vital to the project and both of which he performs very well, as evidenced by his [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&contribs=user&target=Snowolf&namespace=3 user talk warnings] and comments in XfD discussions. His answer about "finding admins" may be made clearer by a visit to [[User:Snowolf/Admin_scout]], and I believe his high number of AIV reports (111) and participation in [[WP:UCFD]] are both desirable traits in a candidate who wants to take on the admin tasks that he has noted above. I might also point out his position as a moderator for [[WP:VPRF]] speaks to his dedication not only to vandal fighting but to the project as a whole. --'''[[User:jonny-mt|jonny-mt]]'''<sup>('''[[User_talk:jonny-mt|t]]''')</sup><sub>('''[[Special:Contributions/jonny-mt|c]]''')</sub><small>[[Wikipedia:Editor_review/jonny-mt|I'm on editor review!]]</small> 06:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#What the hell. I swear you were already an admin, and one of the best admins around. Why do you do this to me!? [[User talk:Dihydrogen Monoxide|<font color=#12A434>'''Dihydrogen Monoxide'''</font>]] <sup>[[Portal:Music of Australia|♫]]</sup> 07:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#What the hell. I swear you were already an admin, and one of the best admins around. Why do you do this to me!? [[User talk:Dihydrogen Monoxide|<font color=#12A434>'''Dihydrogen Monoxide'''</font>]] <sup>[[Portal:Music of Australia|♫]]</sup> 07:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''', thought he was one. ''' |
#'''Support''', thought he was one. '''[[User:Redrocketboy|<span style="color:red;">Red</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Redrocketboy|<span style="color:black;">rocket</span>]][[User talk:Redrocketboy|<span style="color:blue;">boy</span>]]''' 08:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' Although sorta weak answers to the questions, what I've seen of your editing is more than enough. [[User:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#008000">Jmlk</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmlk17|<span style="color:#000080">1</span>]][[User_talk:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#800000">7</span>]] 10:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' Although sorta weak answers to the questions, what I've seen of your editing is more than enough. [[User:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#008000">Jmlk</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmlk17|<span style="color:#000080">1</span>]][[User_talk:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#800000">7</span>]] 10:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' [[User:Epbr123|Epbr123]] 13:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' [[User:Epbr123|Epbr123]] 13:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' - An overall good User. The lack of Article Creation/Contribution should not come into play. Some people are better at some things than others. A lack of Conflicts shows the user can deal with others without getting into heated arguments. [[User:PookeyMaster|PookeyMaster]] ([[User talk:PookeyMaster|talk]]) 22:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' - An overall good User. The lack of Article Creation/Contribution should not come into play. Some people are better at some things than others. A lack of Conflicts shows the user can deal with others without getting into heated arguments. [[User:PookeyMaster|PookeyMaster]] ([[User talk:PookeyMaster|talk]]) 22:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' Although the first answers to the questions were not good, there is plenty of good work to make me think this user will be a good admin. [[User:GDonato|GDonato]] ('''[[User talk:GDonato|talk]]''') 22:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' Although the first answers to the questions were not good, there is plenty of good work to make me think this user will be a good admin. [[User:GDonato|GDonato]] ('''[[User talk:GDonato|talk]]''') 22:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' Thank you. <span>[[User:Prodego|< |
#'''Support''' Thank you. <span>[[User:Prodego|<span style="color:darkgreen;">''Prodego''</span>]] [[User talk:Prodego|<sup style="color:darkgreen;">talk</sup>]]</span> 22:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Weak Support'''. Poor answers to questions, but nevertheless there's not much evidence you will abuse the tools. <strong class="plainlinks">[[User:Malinaccier|Malinaccier]] ([[User talk:Malinaccier|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Malinaccier|contribs]])</strong> 23:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Weak Support'''. Poor answers to questions, but nevertheless there's not much evidence you will abuse the tools. <strong class="plainlinks">[[User:Malinaccier|Malinaccier]] ([[User talk:Malinaccier|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Malinaccier|contribs]])</strong> 23:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Nom support''' - shockingly late. [[User:Martinp23|Mart]]'''[[User_talk:Martinp23|inp23]]''' 23:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Nom support''' - shockingly late. [[User:Martinp23|Mart]]'''[[User_talk:Martinp23|inp23]]''' 23:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' A fine addition to the list. [[User:Marlith|<b><font color="#FF0000">'''Marlith'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Marlith|<font color="#228B22"><sup><small>'''T'''</small></sup></font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Marlith|<font color="#228B22"><small>'''C'''</small></font>]] 03:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' A fine addition to the list. [[User:Marlith|<b><font color="#FF0000">'''Marlith'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Marlith|<font color="#228B22"><sup><small>'''T'''</small></sup></font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Marlith|<font color="#228B22"><small>'''C'''</small></font>]] 03:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#Aye. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WODUP|'''<font color="#4169E1">W<font color="#191970">ODU</font>P</font>''']]</span> 05:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#Aye. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WODUP|'''<font color="#4169E1">W<font color="#191970">ODU</font>P</font>''']]</span> 05:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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# [[User:MaxSem|Max< |
# [[User:MaxSem|Max<span style="font-size:large;">''S''</span>em]]<sup>([[User talk:MaxSem|Han shot first!]])</sup> 08:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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# -- <strong>[[User:Anonymous Dissident|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Anonymous Dissident</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:Anonymous Dissident|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 08:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
# -- <strong>[[User:Anonymous Dissident|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Anonymous Dissident</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:Anonymous Dissident|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 08:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' - I don't think article writing is required to be an admin. < |
#'''Support''' - I don't think article writing is required to be an admin. [[User:James086|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#454545;">James086</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:James086|<span style="color:#006400;">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Emailuser/James086|<span style="color:#700000;">Email</span>]]</sup> 08:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' [[User:Dureo|Dureo]] ([[User talk:Dureo|talk]]) 12:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' [[User:Dureo|Dureo]] ([[User talk:Dureo|talk]]) 12:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' Having met [[User:Pedro/RFA Standards|my aribatary standards]]. In particular the block thing. Perfectly and civily handled, and it has clearly given you strength through being on the "other side of the boot", as it were. I've also had previous personal positive interaction wiht the candidate. I am pleased you fleshed out your questions though. Best Wishes. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|< |
#'''Support''' Having met [[User:Pedro/RFA Standards|my aribatary standards]]. In particular the block thing. Perfectly and civily handled, and it has clearly given you strength through being on the "other side of the boot", as it were. I've also had previous personal positive interaction wiht the candidate. I am pleased you fleshed out your questions though. Best Wishes. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<span style="color:#accC10; background:#0000fa;"> Chat </span>]] </span></small> 16:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' — [[User:Raffaello9|Raffaello9]] | [[User talk:Raffaello9|Talk]] | 16:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' — [[User:Raffaello9|Raffaello9]] | [[User talk:Raffaello9|Talk]] | 16:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' - admin != editing - they are two unique functions that are not directly related. As for policy - common sense sums it up 99.999% of the time. -- [[User:Tawker|Tawker]] ([[User talk:Tawker|talk]]) 19:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' - admin != editing - they are two unique functions that are not directly related. As for policy - common sense sums it up 99.999% of the time. -- [[User:Tawker|Tawker]] ([[User talk:Tawker|talk]]) 19:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' Looks like the candidate has improved the answers to the questions. Got my support. :) [[User:GlassCobra|Glass]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|Cobra]]''' 23:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' Looks like the candidate has improved the answers to the questions. Got my support. :) [[User:GlassCobra|Glass]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|Cobra]]''' 23:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#:'''Yes!''' <font face="Berlin Sans FB Demi" size="2">'''[[User:MindstormsKid|*<font color="#000088">Mind</font>]][[User talk:MindstormsKid|<font color="#220066">storms</font>]][[Special:Contributions/MindstormsKid|<font color="#550044">Kid*</font>]]'''</font> 01:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
#:'''Yes!''' <font face="Berlin Sans FB Demi" size="2">'''[[User:MindstormsKid|*<font color="#000088">Mind</font>]][[User talk:MindstormsKid|<font color="#220066">storms</font>]][[Special:Contributions/MindstormsKid|<font color="#550044">Kid*</font>]]'''</font> 01:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#::I'm sure Snowolf appreciates the support, but you already expressed it at #14. < |
#::I'm sure Snowolf appreciates the support, but you already expressed it at #14. <span style="font-family:Verdana;">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> 02:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' The mop isn't that big of a deal, and this user appears to contribute positively enough to Wikipedia that he should be able to handle the admin tools with ease. --'''[[User:Sharkface217|<span style="background:black;color:red">Shark</span>]][[User talk:Sharkface217|<span style="background:black;color:red">face</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sharkface217|<span style="background:black;color:red">217</span>]]''' 02:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' The mop isn't that big of a deal, and this user appears to contribute positively enough to Wikipedia that he should be able to handle the admin tools with ease. --'''[[User:Sharkface217|<span style="background:black;color:red">Shark</span>]][[User talk:Sharkface217|<span style="background:black;color:red">face</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sharkface217|<span style="background:black;color:red">217</span>]]''' 02:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub |
#'''Support''' [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub style="color:green;">><></sub><small>°</small><sup><small>°</small></sup>]]''' 15:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' - trustworthy editor. [[User:Addhoc|Addhoc]] ([[User talk:Addhoc|talk]]) 21:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' - trustworthy editor. [[User:Addhoc|Addhoc]] ([[User talk:Addhoc|talk]]) 21:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support'''. Seen him around lately. Nothing made me worried. [[User:OhanaUnited|<b |
#'''Support'''. Seen him around lately. Nothing made me worried. [[User:OhanaUnited|<b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b>]][[User talk:OhanaUnited|<b style="color:green;"><sup>Talk page</sup></b>]] 09:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' - But please read up on (or re-read now with administrative tools usage in mind) such pages as deletion policy, particularly speedy, templates, and categories; and protection policy. (Per my note under neutral, below). My experience with you has been overall positive, and I have faith that it will continue to be so : ) - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 12:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' - But please read up on (or re-read now with administrative tools usage in mind) such pages as deletion policy, particularly speedy, templates, and categories; and protection policy. (Per my note under neutral, below). My experience with you has been overall positive, and I have faith that it will continue to be so : ) - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 12:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' -- and please never forget the circumstances of your mistaken block (question 8 above) -- it's an object lesson for admins in [[WP:AGF|"assume good faith"]]. The blocking admin made a mistake, but the block certainly looks "appropriate" on "first glance"; it only reveals itself as very wrong when you take that extra minute or two to dig around trying to understand the Snowolf the editor. I'm not saying every chronic schoolhouse vandal reported to [[WP:AIV]] requires a background investigation, but if it's an established editor, ''please'' take that extra minute or two to try to understand the editor and the context for their actions. I'm sure the blocking admin felt really bad after this incident. --< |
#'''Support''' -- and please never forget the circumstances of your mistaken block (question 8 above) -- it's an object lesson for admins in [[WP:AGF|"assume good faith"]]. The blocking admin made a mistake, but the block certainly looks "appropriate" on "first glance"; it only reveals itself as very wrong when you take that extra minute or two to dig around trying to understand the Snowolf the editor. I'm not saying every chronic schoolhouse vandal reported to [[WP:AIV]] requires a background investigation, but if it's an established editor, ''please'' take that extra minute or two to try to understand the editor and the context for their actions. I'm sure the blocking admin felt really bad after this incident. --<span style="font-family:Futura;">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] </span> 14:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Conditional support''': Don't burn out again via 10k edits in a month. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 03:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Conditional support''': Don't burn out again via 10k edits in a month. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 03:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support''' --[[User:Gia.cossa|Gia.cossa]] ([[User talk:Gia.cossa|talk]]) 13:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support''' --[[User:Gia.cossa|Gia.cossa]] ([[User talk:Gia.cossa|talk]]) 13:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Support.''' [[User:Slideshow Bob|Slideshow Bob]] ([[User talk:Slideshow Bob|talk]]) 20:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Support.''' [[User:Slideshow Bob|Slideshow Bob]] ([[User talk:Slideshow Bob|talk]]) 20:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#Highly trustworthy; no issues here. [[User:O|哦,]] [[User talk:O|'''是吗?''']]<small>([[Wikipedia:Editor review/O 2|review O]])</small> 22:42, 10 December 2007 (GMT) |
#Highly trustworthy; no issues here. [[User:O|哦,]] [[User talk:O|'''是吗?''']]<small>([[Wikipedia:Editor review/O 2|review O]])</small> 22:42, 10 December 2007 (GMT) |
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#'''Support''' - a really friendly user who would be great with a few extra buttons. [[User:Ryan Postlethwaite|'''< |
#'''Support''' - a really friendly user who would be great with a few extra buttons. [[User:Ryan Postlethwaite|'''<span style="color:#000088;">Ry<span style="color:#220066;">an<span style="color:#550044;"> P<span style="color:#770022;">os<span style="color:#aa0000;">tl</span>et</span>hw</span>ai</span>te</span>''']] 23:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::The assertion that ''"article writing is not a nessessary requirement for admins"'' is one of personal opinion, not fact. '''[[User:Daniel|<span style="color:#2E82F4">Daniel</span>]]''' 04:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
::::The assertion that ''"article writing is not a nessessary requirement for admins"'' is one of personal opinion, not fact. '''[[User:Daniel|<span style="color:#2E82F4">Daniel</span>]]''' 04:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::So it is a nessessary requirement? I didn't know that.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 01:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
:::::So it is a nessessary requirement? I didn't know that.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 01:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::No; everybody judges by their own criteria. From the top of RFA "''There are no official prerequisites for adminship''". Article writing may be neccessary requirement to gain support from certain users, and it is not required for the support of others. I personally do not think that contributions of content to articles is necessary, but that's just me. < |
::::::No; everybody judges by their own criteria. From the top of RFA "''There are no official prerequisites for adminship''". Article writing may be neccessary requirement to gain support from certain users, and it is not required for the support of others. I personally do not think that contributions of content to articles is necessary, but that's just me. [[User:James086|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#454545;">James086</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:James086|<span style="color:#006400;">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Emailuser/James086|<span style="color:#700000;">Email</span>]]</sup> 08:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 00:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
:::::::Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that.--'''''[[User:Sunny910910|Sunny910910]]''''' <sup>([[User_Talk:Sunny910910|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sunny910910|Contributions]])</sup> 00:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Oppose''' The questions are the first impression people have of you here. Your failure to answer them is either a slight to the people who are looking at you for the first time or a sign of laziness. Either way, it doesn't bode well in my estimation.[[User:Balloonman|Balloonman]] 05:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Oppose''' The questions are the first impression people have of you here. Your failure to answer them is either a slight to the people who are looking at you for the first time or a sign of laziness. Either way, it doesn't bode well in my estimation.[[User:Balloonman|Balloonman]] 05:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::<s>Come on Snowolf, answer the questions! <span>[[User:Prodego|< |
::<s>Come on Snowolf, answer the questions! <span>[[User:Prodego|<span style="color:darkgreen;">''Prodego''</span>]] [[User talk:Prodego|<sup style="color:darkgreen;">talk</sup>]]</span> 03:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)</s> |
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::<s>'''Neutral'''. While I don't oppose this user getting adminship, I'd like to see some more fleshed-out response in terms of the questions asked. I'd also like to see the response to my question. The user is fine in all other regards; very effective vandal fighter, to say the least. [[User:Master of Puppets|Master of Puppets]] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|<span style="font-variant:Small-caps;color:;"><sup>Care to share?</sup></span>]] 03:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)<s> |
::<s>'''Neutral'''. While I don't oppose this user getting adminship, I'd like to see some more fleshed-out response in terms of the questions asked. I'd also like to see the response to my question. The user is fine in all other regards; very effective vandal fighter, to say the least. [[User:Master of Puppets|Master of Puppets]] [[User talk:Master of Puppets|<span style="font-variant:Small-caps;color:;"><sup>Care to share?</sup></span>]] 03:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)</s> |
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#'''Neutral''' The lack of content in his answers is a major concern here. Although this user is a great contributor, I can't oppose or support this nomination. --< |
#'''Neutral''' The lack of content in his answers is a major concern here. Although this user is a great contributor, I can't oppose or support this nomination. --<span style="background:gold;">[[WP:ESP|<span style="color:green;">S</span>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</span><sup style="background:yellow;">[[User talk:Siva1979|Talk to me]]</sup> 03:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#:<s>'''Neutral'''</s> - pending some answers to the questions above - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">'''A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 05:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC) (switching to '''support''') |
#:<s>'''Neutral'''</s> - pending some answers to the questions above - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">'''A<font color= "#FF7C0A">l<font color= "#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 05:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC) (switching to '''support''') |
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#'''Neutral''' I would like to see more detailed answers to the questions if possible. Also, can you clarify what you mean by "''A: I honestly don't know how to reply to this question, but maybe the way in which I helped this project most has been by trying to find new admins.''" What do you mean by "finding new admins" ? Have you been nominating them for RFA, etc? Thanks. --[[User:Hdt83|<font color="336611" ><b><i>Hdt<font color="blue" >83</font></i></b></font>]] [[User talk:Hdt83|<sup><font color="brown" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font></sup>]] 05:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Neutral''' I would like to see more detailed answers to the questions if possible. Also, can you clarify what you mean by "''A: I honestly don't know how to reply to this question, but maybe the way in which I helped this project most has been by trying to find new admins.''" What do you mean by "finding new admins" ? Have you been nominating them for RFA, etc? Thanks. --[[User:Hdt83|<font color="336611" ><b><i>Hdt<font color="blue" >83</font></i></b></font>]] [[User talk:Hdt83|<sup><font color="brown" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font></sup>]] 05:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#:I actively search for new admins and then nominate them. Everything is available [[User:Snowolf/Admin scout|here]]. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
#:I actively search for new admins and then nominate them. Everything is available [[User:Snowolf/Admin scout|here]]. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 12:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Neutral'''. I was going to support because I've seen you around with a good editing record, but the answers to the questions bother me. '''''[[User:Bibliomaniac15|< |
#'''Neutral'''. I was going to support because I've seen you around with a good editing record, but the answers to the questions bother me. '''''[[User:Bibliomaniac15|<span style="color:black;">bibliomaniac</span>]][[User talk:Bibliomaniac15|<span style="color:red;">1</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bibliomaniac15|<span style="color:blue;">5</span>]]''''' 05:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Neutral''' to follow up with Bibliomaniac15. Very poor answers, especially to Q2. This reflects on failure to think. Lots of edits, but does not seem interested in building WP. Meets my fairly lax standards, so I will not oppose. Sorry. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 17:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Neutral''' to follow up with Bibliomaniac15. Very poor answers, especially to Q2. This reflects on failure to think. Lots of edits, but does not seem interested in building WP. Meets my fairly lax standards, so I will not oppose. Sorry. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 17:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Neutral'''. Can't really oppose, but response to Q10 bothers me. Snowolf tagged [[:Image talk:Handtiegelpresse von 1811.jpg]] with [[WP:CSD#G8]] (db-talk), a criterion which excludes talk pages of [[:Image:Handtiegelpresse von 1811.jpg|images on commons]]. This isn't a big deal, but it's the most recent CSD nomination, and it doesn't inspire confidence in someone deleting content on their own initiative. [[User:Gimmetrow|Gimmetrow]] 06:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
#'''Neutral'''. Can't really oppose, but response to Q10 bothers me. Snowolf tagged [[:Image talk:Handtiegelpresse von 1811.jpg]] with [[WP:CSD#G8]] (db-talk), a criterion which excludes talk pages of [[:Image:Handtiegelpresse von 1811.jpg|images on commons]]. This isn't a big deal, but it's the most recent CSD nomination, and it doesn't inspire confidence in someone deleting content on their own initiative. [[User:Gimmetrow|Gimmetrow]] 06:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#:Ooops :) <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|< |
#:Ooops :) <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">Snowolf</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<span style="color:darkmagenta;">How can I help?</span>]]</small></sup></b></i> 07:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#::Here's my problem. I've worked with the nominee in the past, and they seems happy to be helpful. And while mistakes happen, there seems to be a lack of knowledge about/around several key policies, which, in the hands of a bot-owner/tool-user could be problematic. That said, if asked, I don't think that Snowolf would have a problem learning "on-the-job". So I'm going to support, with the hope that some reading/research is done before "jumping in with both feet" : ) - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 12:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
#::Here's my problem. I've worked with the nominee in the past, and they seems happy to be helpful. And while mistakes happen, there seems to be a lack of knowledge about/around several key policies, which, in the hands of a bot-owner/tool-user could be problematic. That said, if asked, I don't think that Snowolf would have a problem learning "on-the-job". So I'm going to support, with the hope that some reading/research is done before "jumping in with both feet" : ) - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 12:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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#::: Specifically with deletion, it just sounded like Snow intended to do deletions without tagging. That's OK sometimes, but not always. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 05:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC) |
#::: Specifically with deletion, it just sounded like Snow intended to do deletions without tagging. That's OK sometimes, but not always. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 05:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC) |
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