User:Marc Kupper/sandbox

I'm using this page as both a sandbox to experiment with Wikipedia features and also as a working scratchpad which assembling notes/thoughts.

Collapsible box for notes

I tend to write out thoughts as notes and was inspired by X and Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 August 26 to do this.

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Embedded lists and notability of people

• Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information (WP:INDISCRIMINATE) (WP policy)
  • Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Articles about people notable only for one event (WP:ONEEVENT, WP:1E, WP:BLP1E) (WP policy)

• Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions (WP:AADD, WP:ATA) (advice and opinions on Deletion policy)
• Wikipedia:Lists (WP:L, WP:LIST, MOS:LIST) (style guideline)
• Wikipedia:Userfication (WP:USERFY, WP:UFY, WP:USERFICATION) (not hatted)

• Wikipedia:Notability (people)
• broken redir Wikipedia:NNC
• Zehra (name) has some names that are red links.

From User talk:SilkTork#Wikipedia:Notability (people)

== Wikipedia:Notability (people) ==

I'm looking at the rewrite you did on 30 September 2007 and have a couple of questions about the nutshell as your language still stands today. You added "Notability criteria is also needed for a person to be included in a list or general article; however, this criteria is less stringent."

I don't see this supported in the article and am wondering what you used as a source for this edit or the nutshell.

Are you saying that if a name is used anywhere in an article that it needs to pass WP:PEOPLE? For example, an article may mention a person's parents, for example with Woodrow Wilson neither parent has an article and is unlikely to ever have one.

It seems WP:PEOPLE for list members is well defined. No problem there other than it creates a problem for list that define their own criteria such as List of passengers on the Mayflower where not every person is "notable" but should not be excluded from this list either.

Last we get to "this criteria is less stringent" which is presumably the wiggle room that allows for Woodrow Wilson's parents and the non-notable Mayflower passengers. This is not supported in the body of the article. I'm not sure if your intent behind "less stringent" means a person needs to be somewhat notable but not fully so or that it's ok that a list or article contain some entirely non-notable people, or both.

The reason this came up now is an editor's revert of someone adding a name to an embedded list (it was the list of notable residents for a town) stating they were deleting as the person did not have a WP article. Thus started a conversation and as a result I looked around and realized that the rules for embedded lists are not as carefully defined as those for standalone lists.

I'm planning on some edits to WP:PEOPLE plus WP:EMBED to clarify some of the points I brought up above. My play is to align the embedded list guidelines with the existing standalone list guidelines other than it's allowed to use the word "notable" in an embedded list title. That's why I want to make sure I understand your nutshell and WP:PEOPLE well. --Marc Kupper|talk 09:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

That was a while back so difficult to recapture all the thinking and all the sources. However, the part "Notability criteria is also needed for a person to be included in a list or general article" comes from the Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Lists_of_people section which was present at the time and is still present. The "however, this criteria is less stringent." part I can't clearly recall and may have come from WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:NNC, WP:ONEEVENT, various merge to decisions in AfD and other such sources - certainly I don't recall any objections to that particular edit, though other aspects of the edit were challenged and had to be talked through before being finally accepted. It's always appropriate to challenge aspects of any guideline to see if they still make sense, have consensus, and are clear. As you point out, "criteria is less stringent" is problematic and unsupported; the statement needs to be challenged and clarified. All mentions of people in articles or lists need to be cited to reliable sources - that part perhaps needs firming up in the guideline. In addition, consideration needs to be given to the level of notability required to be included in a list or mentioned in an article. Family members of a notable person appear in an article on that notable person even when the criteria for a standalone article is not met, so by usage the "less stringent" comment is upheld. It just needs a little more clarity. SilkTork *^YES! 10:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you - it looks like we are on the same page. I also had not seen the WP:AADD article before; it looks like good reading. So many articles, so little time. :-) --Marc Kupper|talk 21:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

• Talk:Chesley Sullenberger - discussion that brings up oneevent a lot
• WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS

Are these references enough to add a new article?

Hi. I would like to create a new wikipedia article for westside church sydney. Nothing to do with advertising, only informative of its history and stucture, similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsong_Church but obviously a bit different and no where near as big.

Are these sources/refereces enough for it to be credited of being worthy enough to be allowed to have a wikipedia article?

h**p://www.westsidechurch.com.au/
h**p://www.australianchurches.net.au/church.html?i=184
h**p://achurchesdirectory.com.au/directory/church.php?i=248&cn=westside-church
h**p://www.worthylinks.com/churches/australia-new-zealand-churches/
h**p://www.hnlc.org.au/holroyd-churches/contacts.htm
h**p://www.youtube.com/user/WestSideChurchSydney -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.25.243.2 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 23 February 2009

Without having actually looked at the links, I would suggest that they look like they might be ok for providing some information about the church in an article, but would probably not be sufficient to satisfy the notability guidelines, which require multiple non-trivial references in reliable independant sources. To translate that bit by bit, "multiple" is obviously "at least two, preferably a few more", "non-trivial" means "not just a passing mention or a listing in a directory, but actual discussion of the church itself", "reliable" means "not likely to have just made it up or gotten the information from a man in a bar" and "independant" means "not directly connected with the church itself". So the church's own website and YouTube accounts are not independant, and neither would any self-submitted entries to directories. A good reference is something like a newspaper or magazine article on the church, or at least one that devotes several paragraphs to the church. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Also note that no one will own the article about your church, which means anyone who wants to write something critical or unflattering about your church will be able to do so, as long as they can provide reliable sources to support their claims. If your church is not very notable, then it probably hasn't accumulated many critics yet, so this might not be an issue for a while. (If your church has been involved in any sort of notable controversy, expect it to find its way into the article here eventually.) When you put information on Wikipedia, you are submitting it to the potentially brutal marketplace of ideas. See the articles Criticism of Microsoft and Criticism of Microsoft Windows to get an idea of the kind of content that appears on Wikipedia but probably does not originate with anyone with a vested interest in portraying a company like Microsoft favorably. Microsoft is something of a special case, in that it is a very large company whose profit-maximizing decisions impact many people, and not always favorably. Thus lots of people publish criticisms of Microsoft, creating reliable sources which may then support the same criticism on Wikipedia. You might also look at other wikis such as Conservapedia which make no attempt to be neutral and might be friendlier to your point of view (depending on which flavor of Christianity you believe). You can create articles about your church on as many different wikis as will allow it, and then observe the different reactions you may get from the various user communities. I cannot predict which wiki you will like best. --Teratornis (talk) 01:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Underscores in redirects

You updated Internet Speculative Fiction Database to change the redirect to use underscores instead of spaces. In looking at WP:R I'm not sure why you did this. Thanks for doing the edit though as I'd been wondering if redirects should use spaces or _ and your edit motivated me to go look at the manual where I see all of the examples use spaces.

I just looked at your home page and see that the General of the Armies topic is still active. That's a great find at http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/juris/j0210_67.sgml --Marc Kupper|talk 07:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

References

• Marc Kupper/sandbox at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database

General of the Armies

Look into why some sources call him a General of the Armies prior to 1976. For example, I spotted it in a 1961 book about John J. Pershing that mentioned Pershing was the first General of the Armies since Washington. I'm thinking that from ~1945 to 1964 there were regular news reports about promoting Douglas MacArthur to General of the Armies and that at the time Washington's 1798 commission to "Lieutenant General and Commander-in-chief of the armies raised or to be raised" was essentially a promotion to the same rank of what would later be called General of the Armies.

Note that there's a book about Ulysses S. Grant titled Ulysses S. Grant - General of the Armies of the United States (1868). See Talk:6 star rank#Not a "General of the Armies of the United States" where it's explained this gets parsed as "General of the Armies of the United States." --Marc Kupper|talk 19:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Pershing's original promotion order

This is from User_talk:MrDolomite#Underscores_in_redirects and User_talk:Marc_Kupper#Internet_Speculative_Fiction_Database. It's a mini research project to discover why spaces break some redirects.

I just looked at your home page and see that the General of the Armies topic is still active. That's a great find at http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/juris/j0210_67.sgml --Marc Kupper|talk 07:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: General of the Armies. Yeah, it would be nice to finally solve the mysteries of that family of titles once and for all. I'm still trying to track down Pershing's original promotion order and the US Code, but most online resources (even the ones at the libraries I have checked) just don't go back that far.

— MrDolomite • Talk 17:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Found in New York Times from July 1919 through September 1919

• July 1, 1919 12:2 or 17:2 - Per law Pershing would revert to regular Army Major General on return to USA. One option to make is status permanent would be to appoint him Chief of Staff.
• Early July - discussion initiated by president W. Wilson that Pershing be made a permanent general. Apparently his existing rank will expire when he returns to the USA. Very popular support in congress.
• July 19 5:5 cheers in congress.
• August - Votes, etc. in congress. Not much detail.
• September - First mention that the title is "General of the Armies" (need to recheck to see if "of the United States" is part of that. One thing that was brought up is that Congress creates the positions and that the President appoints people to them. Thus the legislation does not mention Pershing though everyone knew exactly who they were creating the position for. The Senate sets asside existing business to do the vote, the legislation is immediately hand-couriered to Wilson who signs. Apparently a bit of a rush job at the end as Wilson was leaving that day for a trip through the western USA and Pershing was scheduled to arrive from France that weekend. Sidebar that Pershing's ten year old son was the first to give him the news.
• September 12 - someone realizes that Congress used the title "General of the Armies" and that the war department used "General" in the regular army. The war department is looking into the most expeditious way to fix this. There was no public follow-up on this. --Marc Kupper|talk 17:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Underscores in redirects

This is from User_talk:MrDolomite#Underscores_in_redirects and User_talk:Marc_Kupper#Internet_Speculative_Fiction_Database. It's a mini research project to discover why spaces break some redirects.

You updated Internet Speculative Fiction Database to change the redirect to use underscores instead of spaces. In looking at WP:R I'm not sure why you did this. Thanks for doing the edit though as I'd been wondering if redirects should use spaces or _ and your edit motivated me to go look at the manual where I see all of the examples use spaces.--Marc Kupper|talk 07:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I updated the Internet Speculative Fiction Database redirect because for whatever reason, when I followed the link I didn't end up at the proper sub-heading, just at Online general-interest book databases. Then I had to scroll down. It wasn't until you mentioned it that I even noticed that the only thing that changed was the spaces to underlines. I have no idea if that is what made the redirect start working right or not. To be honest, if I had noticed, I probably wouldn't have made the edit. :) — MrDolomite • Talk 17:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

RfC Granpuff

{{subst:RfC|Granpuff}}

Statement of the dispute

User is moving pages without discussion.

Desired outcome:

That he ask on article talk pages and get feedback before making significant changes to articles or moving them.

Description

User has a long term history of being warned for disruptive moving of articles without discussion. He took a break in page moves, though not editing, from 27 September 2008 to March 11, 2009 and starting March 11 has moved three articles.

Evidence of disputed behavior:

I'm not sure if I should copy his entire User talk:Granpuff here or if that link will do.

Of his past 2000 edits (21:39, 13 August 2008 to 19:44, 12 March 2009) include

• Zero edits on talk pages
• 54 moves of article pages (plus the article talk pages)

List of articles moved:

1. 19:44, 12 March 2009 m Timothy F. Geithner (moved Timothy F. Geithner to Timothy Geithner over redirect)
2. 15:57, 12 March 2009 N The Invisible Man (film) (moved The Invisible Man (film) to The Invisible Man (1933 film) over redirect)
3. 15:57, 12 March 2009 m The Invisible Man (1933 film) (moved The Invisible Man (film) to The Invisible Man (1933 film) over redirect)
4. 15:12, 11 March 2009 N Detective Flass (moved Detective Flass to Arnold Flass over redirect)
5. 15:12, 11 March 2009 m Arnold Flass (moved Detective Flass to Arnold Flass over redirect)
6. 00:07, 27 September 2008 N Business Ethics (The Office US episode) (moved Business Ethics (The Office US episode) to Business Ethics (The Office))
7. 00:07, 27 September 2008 m Business Ethics (The Office) (moved Business Ethics (The Office US episode) to Business Ethics (The Office))
8. 00:06, 27 September 2008 N Baby Shower (The Office US episode) (moved Baby Shower (The Office US episode) to Baby Shower (The Office))
9. 00:06, 27 September 2008 m Baby Shower (moved Baby Shower (The Office US episode) to Baby Shower (The Office))
10. 01:37, 14 September 2008 m 2008–2009 United States network television schedule (moved 2008–2009 United States network television schedule to 2008-2009 United States network television schedule)
11. 02:38, 13 September 2008 N Betty Ross Banner (moved Betty Ross Banner to Betty Ross over redirect)
12. 02:38, 13 September 2008 m Betty Ross (moved Betty Ross Banner to Betty Ross over redirect)
13. 23:45, 7 September 2008 N John William Van Druten (moved John William Van Druten to John Van Druten over redirect)
14. 23:45, 7 September 2008 m John Van Druten (moved John William Van Druten to John Van Druten over redirect)
15. 21:34, 31 August 2008 N Roger S.H. Schulman (moved Roger S.H. Schulman to Roger S. H. Schulman over redirect)
16. 21:34, 31 August 2008 m Roger S. H. Schulman (moved Roger S.H. Schulman to Roger S. H. Schulman over redirect)
17. 03:01, 30 August 2008 N Melanie Wilkes (moved Melanie Wilkes to Melanie Hamilton over redirect)
18. 03:01, 30 August 2008 m Melanie Hamilton (moved Melanie Wilkes to Melanie Hamilton over redirect)
19. 20:49, 28 August 2008 N Robert Yeoman (moved Robert Yeoman to Robert D. Yeoman over redirect)
20. 20:49, 28 August 2008 m Robert D. Yeoman (moved Robert Yeoman to Robert D. Yeoman over redirect)
21. 02:04, 28 August 2008 N Keram Malicki-Sanchez (moved Keram Malicki-Sanchez to Keram Malicki-Sánchez over redirect)
22. 02:04, 28 August 2008 m Keram Malicki-Sánchez (moved Keram Malicki-Sanchez to Keram Malicki-Sánchez over redirect)
23. 00:33, 28 August 2008 N Chris Sheridan (screenwriter) (moved Chris Sheridan (screenwriter) to Chris Sheridan (writer))
24. 00:33, 28 August 2008 m Chris Sheridan (writer) (moved Chris Sheridan (screenwriter) to Chris Sheridan (writer))
25. 00:31, 28 August 2008 N The King Is Dead (Family Guy episode) (moved The King Is Dead (Family Guy episode) to The King Is Dead (Family Guy))
26. 00:31, 28 August 2008 m The King Is Dead (Family Guy) (moved The King Is Dead (Family Guy episode) to The King Is Dead (Family Guy))
27. 00:29, 28 August 2008 N Running Mates (Family Guy episode) (moved Running Mates (Family Guy episode) to Running Mates (Family Guy))
28. 00:29, 28 August 2008 m Running Mates (Family Guy) (moved Running Mates (Family Guy episode) to Running Mates (Family Guy))
29. 03:16, 27 August 2008 N Walter Hill (director) (moved Walter Hill (director) to Walter Hill (filmmaker))
30. 03:16, 27 August 2008 m Walter Hill (filmmaker) (moved Walter Hill (director) to Walter Hill (filmmaker))
31. 16:41, 22 August 2008 N Katherine Soucie (moved Katherine Soucie to Kath Soucie over redirect)
32. 16:41, 22 August 2008 m Kath Soucie (moved Katherine Soucie to Kath Soucie over redirect)
33. 15:22, 22 August 2008 N Timothy Daly (moved Timothy Daly to Tim Daly over redirect)
34. 15:22, 22 August 2008 m Tim Daly (moved Timothy Daly to Tim Daly over redirect)
35. 15:48, 21 August 2008 m David Lloyd (moved David Lloyd to David Lloyd (disambiguation) over redirect)
36. 18:45, 20 August 2008 N List of characters in The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy (moved List of characters in The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy to List of characters in The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy over redirect)
37. 18:45, 20 August 2008 m List of characters in The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (moved List of characters in The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy to List of characters in The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy over redirect)
38. 18:07, 20 August 2008 N Labor Pains (2009 film) (moved Labor Pains (2009 film) to Labor Pains over redirect)
39. 18:07, 20 August 2008 m Labor Pains (moved Labor Pains (2009 film) to Labor Pains over redirect)
40. 16:18, 18 August 2008 m The Hobbit films (moved The Hobbit films to The Hobbit film duology over redirect)
41. 02:14, 18 August 2008 N Superman for All Seasons (moved Superman for All Seasons to Superman For All Seasons over redirect)
42. 02:14, 18 August 2008 m Superman For All Seasons (moved Superman for All Seasons to Superman For All Seasons over redirect)
43. 02:10, 18 August 2008 m The Amazing Spider-Man (comic book) (moved The Amazing Spider-Man (comic book) to The Amazing Spider-Man (comics))
44. 02:53, 15 August 2008 m The Office (U.S. TV series) (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) to The Office (US TV series) over redirect)
45. 02:52, 15 August 2008 m List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes (moved List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes to List of The Office (US TV series) episodes over redirect)
46. 02:42, 15 August 2008 m The Office (US TV series) season 5 (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) season 5 to The Office (Season 5))
47. 02:42, 15 August 2008 m The Office (US TV series) season 4 (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) season 4 to The Office (Season 4))
48. 02:41, 15 August 2008 m The Office (US TV series) season 3 (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) season 3 to The Office (Season 3))
49. 02:41, 15 August 2008 m The Office (US TV series) season 2 (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) season 2 to The Office (Season 2))
50. 02:40, 15 August 2008 m The Office (US TV series) season 1 (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) season 1 to The Office (Season 1))
51. 02:36, 15 August 2008 m List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes (moved List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes to List of The Office (US TV series) episodes)
52. 02:35, 15 August 2008 m The Office (U.S. TV series) (moved The Office (U.S. TV series) to The Office (US TV series) over redirect)
53. 13:37, 14 August 2008 N Israel Kamakawiwoʻole (moved Israel Kamakawiwoʻole to Israel Kamakawiwo'ole over redirect)
54. 13:37, 14 August 2008 m Israel Kamakawiwo'ole (moved Israel Kamakawiwo?ole to Israel Kamakawiwo'ole over redirect)

Applicable policies and guidelines

Thinking about this one... - {list the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}

Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute

See User Talk:Granpuff.

Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute

See User Talk:Granpuff and list of moves above.

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

From User Talk:Granpuff

• User:Gears of War - 1 July 2008 -
• User:FisherQueen - 31 July 2008 (may be neutral admin - did 31 hour block)
• User:Mastrchf91 - 15 August 2008 -
• User:Tokek - 21 August 2008 -
• User:Alientraveller - 18 August 2008 -
• User:Ed Fitzgerald - 8 September 2008 -
• User:Robert K S - 8 November 2008 -

Note - before submitting the RfC with this list of users I'll contact each of them to see if they want their name used but am planning on holding off on the contacts until I know that an RfC is ok.

Other users who endorse this summary

Working notes

See [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Granpuff and {{RfC}}

Links:

• User:Granpuff
• User Talk:Granpuff
• Special:Contributions/Granpuff last 2000 contributions
• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive248#Request for comment on a User RfC - requested comments to see if this is the right tool.

Request for comment on a User RfC

From Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive186#Request for comment on a User RfC.

I have not done an RfC and am developing one at User:Marc Kupper/sandbox#RfC Granpuff.

Is this the right thing to do at all in this situation?

• If it is the right thing then I'll notify the user about the pending RfC but also would want to know if what I'm writing up is the correct/good format for an RfC.
• If RfC is not right then I'll delete this one from the sandbox and follow what you advise. I see #User RFCs above but there's no real hurry in dealing with the user.

You can reply here and I'll watchlist. Thanks. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The user has made three moves in the last six months, two of which were immediately self-reverted within 1 minute, according to the log on the RFC. Is there something I'm not seeing here? – iridescent 22:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

You are right - I thought he was doing 3-way moves. I'll contact him and mention there's better ways to add a #REDIRECT. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Quick question (and a chance for me to try out my new signature :P) are non-admins allowed to have their input here? C.U.T.K.D | T | C 22:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I started to write up a note to Granpuff on how to add redirects but then see that he is moving articles on top of redirects and then moving them back. I need to do more testing on this later as it seems this is also deleting the edit history of the article that had the redirect. --Marc Kupper|talk 23:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

No, in that case the history will continue to travel with the content. Only admins are capable of deleting history. Chick Bowen 02:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Please also note that this editor has a very long history of marking major edits (such as page moves) as minor. Several other editors repeatedly asked him to stop (it's on his talk page). He finally made some improvement, but now in his recent return to editing he has started this problem editing again. I am unsure if he is doing this maliciously, or he just doesn't want to be bothered with the requests/warnings, or he simply doesn't understand what's going on. For this problem, as well as the page moves, I think it may take some escalating intervention by admins before we can get his attention. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 16:42, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

(summary - need to research as it's possible what this guy does is ok)

Something bugs me about these three moves and I'm missing something about the logs

'This one looks ok - straight move from Timothy F. Geithner to Timothy Geithner

• 19:44, 12 March 2009 (hist) (diff) m Talk:Timothy F. Geithner ‎ (moved Talk:Timothy F. Geithner to Talk:Timothy Geithner)
• 19:44, 12 March 2009 (hist) (diff) m Timothy F. Geithner ‎ (moved Timothy F. Geithner to Timothy Geithner over redirect)

This one confuses me Per the Google cache the page was at The Invisible Man (film) as of Mar 8, 2009 17:27:23 GMT. It is now at The Invisible Man (1933 film). What I need to test is if I edit a page as name1 and move it to name2 does my edit history say I edited name2?

• 15:57, 12 March 2009 (hist) (diff) N Talk:The Invisible Man (film) ‎ (moved Talk:The Invisible Man (film) to Talk:The Invisible Man (1933 film)) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]
• 15:57, 12 March 2009 (hist) (diff) m Talk:The Invisible Man (1933 film) ‎ (moved Talk:The Invisible Man (film) to Talk:The Invisible Man (1933 film)) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]
• 15:57, 12 March 2009 (hist) (diff) N The Invisible Man (film) ‎ (moved The Invisible Man (film) to The Invisible Man (1933 film) over redirect) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]
• 15:57, 12 March 2009 (hist) (diff) m The Invisible Man (1933 film) ‎ (moved The Invisible Man (film) to The Invisible Man (1933 film) over redirect)

The The Invisible Man (1933 film) page shows one line

• (cur) (prev) 15:57, 12 March 2009 Granpuff (talk | contribs) m (15,637 bytes) (moved The Invisible Man (film) to The Invisible Man (1933 film) over redirect) (undo)

The The Invisible Man (film) page also shows one line

• (cur) (prev) 15:57, 12 March 2009 Granpuff (talk | contribs) (43 bytes) (moved The Invisible Man (film) to The Invisible Man (1933 film) over redirect)

This one needs research - The Google cache shows that the page was at Detective Flass and there was no page for Arnold Flass. As of now Detective Flass redirects to Arnold Flass.

1. 15:12, 11 March 2009 (hist) (diff) N Talk:Detective Flass ‎ (moved Talk:Detective Flass to Talk:Arnold Flass) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]
2. 15:12, 11 March 2009 (hist) (diff) m Talk:Arnold Flass ‎ (moved Talk:Detective Flass to Talk:Arnold Flass) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]
3. 15:12, 11 March 2009 (hist) (diff) N Detective Flass ‎ (moved Detective Flass to Arnold Flass over redirect) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]
4. 15:12, 11 March 2009 (hist) (diff) m Arnold Flass ‎ (moved Detective Flass to Arnold Flass over redirect) (top) [rollback] [vandalism]

United States presidential administration controversies

Review Category:United States presidential administration controversies as it seems they include a mix of events where the administration and white house were directly involved, Watergate or Monica Lewinsky for example, and events where the white house or administration connection seems minimal or they were events that occurred curing that administration but were not connected to the administration itself. Examples are

• Category:Reagan Administration controversies
  • Danny Casolaro - No Reagan connection at all other than in a footnote that some unnamed Reagan cabinet members may have been involved.
  • Rita Lavelle - Reagan appointee in an assistant administrator post who was later convicted on federal charges of perjury on issues unrelated to the administration itself.

Areas for more thought

• Categories with Abuse, Abuses
• Categories with Conflict, Conflicts
• Categories with Controversy, Controversies
• Categories with Crisis, Crisises
• Categories with Issue, Issues
• Categories with Panic, Panics
• Categories with Upheaval, Upheavals
• Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_March_16#Category:Crises
• overcategorization by shared name
• Categories are not tags
• Category:Types of crisis or Category:Crises by type
• Similar to Category:Abuse where everyone thought they knew it when they saw it. Don't we know a crisis when we see it?

--Marc Kupper|talk 19:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Whipping

• 10mm
• 1958 in literature
• 1964 in literature
• A Matter of Traces
• Adjournment
• Alia Atreides
• Arrakis
• ATGM
• Battle of Arrakeen
• battlecruiser
• Bene Gesserit
• Bene Tleilaxu
• Beowulf (Honorverse)
• black hole
• Brian Herbert
• Bureau of Sabotage
• Caleban
• canon (fiction)
• Canopus (star)
• Category:1958 short stories
• Category:1964 short stories
• Category:1970 novels
• Category:1977 novels
• Category:ConSentiency universe
• Category:Dune planets
• Category:Fictional deserts
• Category:Fictional extraterrestrial life forms
• Category:Fictional governments
• Category:Fictional intelligence agencies
• Category:Novels by Frank Herbert
• Category:Science and technology in the Honorverse
• Category:Science fiction book series
• Category:Science fiction novels
• Category:Science fiction weapons
• Category:Short stories by Frank Herbert
• Chapterhouse (Dune)
• Chapterhouse Dune
• Childe Cycle
• Children of Dune
• clan
• Colin Turnbull
• Colt M1911
• concubinage
• ConSentiency universe
• conspiracy (political)
• crèche
• D-wolves
• David Lynch
• David Weber
• desert planet
• Desert planet
• desertification
• Destination: Void universe
• Destination: Void
• diamond
• Dosadi
• Duncan Idaho
• Dune (film)
• Dune (novel)
• Dune Messiah
• Dune universe
• Dune
• Earth's gravity
• Earth
• Edward Saganami
• Edward Teller
• electromagnetism
• electronic countermeasures
• English language
• Eridani Edict
• extraterrestrials
• Eye (Frank Herbert)
• Famine Times
• Fantastic Universe
• faster-than-light
• federation
• flechette
• Frank Herbert's Dune
• Frank Herbert
• Frederik Pohl
• Fremen
• G. P. Putnam's Sons
• Galaxy Science Fiction
• gamble
• Gateway (novel)
• genetic engineering
• Ghanima Atreides
• ghola
• glass
• God Emperor of Dune
• Golden Path (Dune)
• Gordon R. Dickson
• Gowachin
• gravitational lens
• gravity
• Grayson (Honorverse)
• Hardcover
• Hasimir Fenring
• Hawk (bird)
• heighliner
• Heretics of Dune
• Honor Among Enemies
• honor
• Honored Matres
• Honorverse
• House Atreides
• House Harkonnen
• Human
• Hunters of Dune
• Ik
• Impeller drive
• Induced gamma emission
• Irulan Corrino
• Jim Burns
• Jorj X. McKie
• kangaroo mouse
• Kevin J. Anderson
• kinetic energy
• Kwisatz Haderach
• Lady Jessica
• Legends of Dune
• Leto Atreides I
• Leto Atreides II
• Leto II
• Liet-Kynes
• life extension
• Light Attack Craft
• List of Dune planets
• Locus Award
• Magazine
• Margot Fenring
• mass driver
• megalopolis
• megastructure
• Melange (fictional drug)
• Mu Draconis
• Muad'Dib
• Multistage rocket
• Nomic
• Pacific Islander
• Padishah Emperor
• Pardot Kynes
• Paul Atreides
• phylum (biology)
• pinnace
• Plasma (physics)
• Pleiades (star cluster)
• point-defense
• Prelude to Dune
• Prescott Tremaine
• Project Excalibur
• Prototype
• qanat
• reactionless propulsion
• Red tape
• Republic of Haven
• Royal Manticoran Navy

MediaWiki hints

• __HIDDENCAT__ is used to hide a category - See mw:Help:Magic words or meta:Help:Magic words which is an older version. Help:Magic words on WP is not as detailed but has WP specific things.

Monitor

From time to time there's too much noise on the watch list and deal with it by unwatching articles. I sure wish there was a way to mark an articled as "patrolled" which would remove it entirely from the watchlist until the next time it's edited. That would allow me to check off articles where I looked over recent edits, they seem fine, and I don't need it on the watch list any more until it's edited again.

Self

• User:Marc Kupper/Wikipedia
• User:Marc Kupper

Topics of interest (articles I plan to edit from time to time)

• Closed captioning (Ron May User talk:RTR2009, Jasper Johns, VOM (punk rock band))
• David Weber (User talk:Debresser)
• Internet Speculative Fiction Database
• List of female science fiction authors
• Online general-interest book databases
• Romance novel
• Romantic fantasy
• Stephen Hunt (author)
• Telecommunications device for the deaf

Non notable articles - monitored for AfD and migration to more suitable sites

• Kim Antieau
• Nancy Asire
• Carl Brandon Society
• DAW Books
• Diversicon
• A. M. Dellamonica
• L. Timmel Duchamp
• Diana Pharaoh Francis
• Locus (magazine)
• Nnedi Okorafor
  • Andre Norton Award
  • Zahrah the Windseeker
  • Zehra (name)
• SF Site
• Sfcrowsnest (User talk:SpikeJones, User talk:Orangemike, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sfcrowsnest, User talk:TheCharmingMan, User talk:JoedyBoston)
• Linnea Sinclair

Vandal patrol

• Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (pending talk)
• Alliance-Union universe
• Celia S. Friedman
• Consumer Electronics Hall of Fame
• Diana L. Paxson
• Flip-up glasses
• International Order of the Rainbow for Girls (pending talk)
• Marion Zimmer Bradley
• Moondance magazine
• R.M. Meluch
• Sunglasses
• The Forest House
• Vanity press
• Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool
• Zante currant

Things on Wikipedia I have a general interest in

• DAW Books - I collect and read the books plus also maintain a DAW Books publication list at http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:DAW
• Black science fiction
• Speculative Fiction by Writers of Color
• Category:Speculative fiction writers of color (no longer used)
• Category:Speculative fiction novels by writers of color See delete discussion Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_March_20#Category:Science_fiction_by_writers_of_color_etc
• Category:Science fiction writers of color
• Category:Science fiction by writers of color - Deleted April 1, 2008 per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_March_26#Category:Science_fiction_writers_of_color
  • Marion Zimmer Bradley wrote a fair amount for DAW, including the Darkover series which I have not read much of.
• General of the Armies - I chanced on the page, got interested in some strange sounding claims, and have been working to clean it up.
• Related to General of the Armies are
  • United States Army officer rank insignia which I ran into because the insignia, including General of the Armies, got tagged for deletion which lead me to finding that the existing images had been ripped off a copyrighted site.
  • Uniformed services of the United States
  • Military of the United States
  • United States Army
  • Officer (armed forces)
  • General Officer - Army General
  • List of United States military leaders by rank
  • United States Army officer rank insignia
  • Chief of Staff of the United States Army
  • General of the Armies - Six star general
  • General of the Army (United States) - General of the Army (USA) (redir) - General of the Army (is more general) - Five star general (redirects to Field Marshal) - Field Marshal (outside USA)
  • General (United States) (Four star general) (page also has history of the rank/grade of "General" in general)
  • Lieutenant General (United States) - Three star general
  • Major General#United States - Two star general
  • Brigadier General#United States - One star general
  • Colonel (United States)
  • Lieutenant Colonel (United States)
  • Major (United States)
  • Captain (United States)
  • First Lieutenant#United States
  • Second Lieutenant#United States of America
  • I need to track down the source for the insignia images used on John J. Pershing. These images should be available on the pages for each rank along with the existing shoulder loop/strap versions. I should also to delete the 6-star image.
• Telecommunications device for the deaf - I'm nearly deaf in one ear and have a 90% loss in the other. While I don't use a TTY it's something I've been thinking about as as a backup as from time to time I'll run into a company with a call center where I have extreme difficulty following what the person is saying. Usually it's an issue of background noise in the call center, poor audio quality, unfamiliar accents, and often unfamiliar terminology making it hard to build a mental map of what words the person may be saying. Related to the TTY page are the Voice modem command set and Modem pages.
• Aikido
  • List of aikido styles -> Aikido styles
  • Aikikai
  • Yoshinkan
  • Yoseikan Aikido
  • Shodokan Aikido
  • Ki Society
  • Iwama style

Category:Science fiction writers of color

I suspect the category will get deleted soon and so here's a "screen shot" until I have time to recreate this list on ISFDB.

Science fiction writers of color. This includes African-American, American Indian, Asian, Caribbean, etc. writers whose works are in the genre of Science fiction, fantasy, and Horror.

==See Also==

• Black science fiction

• B
  • Ashok Banker
  • Steven Barnes
  • Tobias S. Buckell
  • Octavia E. Butler Clay's Ark, Wild Seed
• C
  • Ted Chiang
  • Brenda Clough
  • Wayde Compton
• D
  • Samuel R. Delany
  • Tananarive Due
• F
  • Heinz Insu Fenkl
• G
  • Owl Goingback
  • Jewelle Gomez
  • Hiromi Goto
• H
  • Virginia Hamilton
  • Nalo Hopkinson
• L
  • Larissa Lai
  • Karin Lowachee
• M
  • Mary Anne Mohanraj
  • Walter Mosley The Wave
• N
  • Gloria Naylor Bailey's Cafe
• O
  • Nnedi Okorafor-Mbachu
  • Helen Oyeyemi
• S
  • William Sanders (writer)
  • Charles R. Saunders
  • Nisi Shawl
• T
  • Sheree Thomas
• V
  • Greg van Eekhout

Mormon Standard Works

Mini project to review links to Standard Works to see how they get worded and if there would be an improvement in clarity to call them the Mormon Standard Works. The list of pages here was generated from Special:WhatLinksHere/Standard Works

I'm proposing to move the article to Mormon Standard Works which may reduce confusion for some editors. At Talk:Book of Mormon#Eearliest of the defining publications of the LDS movement? an editor had made a reference to Standard Works. I saw the blue wikilink and assumed he was referring to a generic term - meaning the standard works for any organization or practice and didn't even click on the link.

Mormonism articles linking to 'Standard Works'

• 1890 Manifesto
• Aaronic Order
• Adam and Eve (LDS Church)
• Anthon Transcript
• Archaeology and the Book of Mormon
• Articles of Faith (Latter Day Saints)
• Bear River Massacre
• Beliefs and practices of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Bible Dictionary (LDS Church)
• Black Mormons
• Black people and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Black people in Mormon doctrine
• Book of Abraham
• Book of Mormon
• Book of Moses
• Brother of Jared
• Celestial marriage
• Christian views on slavery
• Chronology of Mormonism
• Church Educational System
• Collected works (disambiguation)
• Common consent
• Community of Christ (differentiation from LDS Church)
• Confirmation (Latter Day Saints)
• Criticism of Mormon sacred texts
• Criticism of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Culture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Degrees of glory
• Deseret Industries
• Doctrine and Covenants
• Encyclopedia of Mormonism
• Endowment (Latter Day Saints)
• Endowment (Mormonism)
• Enoch (ancestor of Noah)
• Family Home Evening
• FamilySearch
• Finances of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• First Presidency (LDS Church)
• First Vision
• Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies
• Gathering (LDS Church)
• General Conference (LDS Church)
• Genetics and the Book of Mormon
• God in Mormonism
• Golden plates
• Gospel Principles
• Heaven (Christianity)
• Historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon
• History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• History of the Latter Day Saint movement
• Holy of Holies (LDS Church)
• Home teaching
• Homosexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Jared (founder of Jaredites)
• Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible
• Joseph Smith—History
• Journal of Discourses
• Laman and Lemuel
• Latter-day Saint martyrs
• Latter Day Saint movement
• LDS edition of the Bible
• LDS Humanitarian Services
• Lehi (Book of Mormon prophet)
• Life of Joseph Smith from 1834 to 1837
• Life of Joseph Smith from 1838 to 1839
• Life of Joseph Smith from 1839 to 1844
• List of Book of Mormon translations
• List of Latter Day Saint movement topics
• List of sects in the Latter Day Saint movement
• May Green Hinckley
• Missionary (LDS Church)
• Mormon (word)
• Mormon Battalion
• Mormon blogosphere
• Mormon Channel
• Mormon cosmology
• Mormon folklore
• Mormon handcart pioneers
• Mormon literature
• Mormon Orchestra of Washington DC
• Mormon pioneers
• Mormon studies
• Mormon Tabernacle Choir
• Mormon views on evolution
• Mormonism and Christianity
• Mormonism and Islam
• Mormonism and Judaism
• Mormonism: Shadow or Reality?
• Mormonism
• Mormons
• Nephi
• Oath of vengeance
• Official Declaration—2
• One Mighty and Strong
• Ordinance (Latter Day Saints)
• Origin of the Book of Mormon
• Pace memorandum
• Pearl of Great Price (Mormonism)
• Perfection (Latter Day Saints)
• Plan of salvation
• Plurality of gods
• Portal:Latter-day Saints/Latter-day Saints topics
• Portal:Latter-day Saints
• Portrayals of Mormons in popular media
• Prayer circle (Mormonism)
• President of the Church
• Presiding Bishop (LDS Church)
• Priesthood (Latter Day Saints)
• Priesthood (LDS Church)
• Primary (LDS Church)
• Proposed Book of Mormon geographical setting
• Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (LDS Church)
• Relief Society
• Religious Studies Center
• Restoration (Latter Day Saints)
• Revelation (Latter Day Saints)
• Salamander letter
• Sam (Book of Mormon)
• Sariah
• Second Coming (LDS Church)
• Selected Manifestations
• September Six
• Seventy (Latter Day Saints)
• Sexuality and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Shiz
• Spirit world (Latter Day Saints)
• Sunday School (LDS Church)
• Supreme directional control
• Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith (book)
• Temple (Latter Day Saints)
• Tennis Shoes Adventure Series
• The Book of Mormon (musical)
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Michigan
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership statistics
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• The Family: A Proclamation to the World
• True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
• Utah War
• Washing and anointing
• Worship services of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• Young Men (organization)
• Young Women (organization)
• Zion's Order, Inc.

Mormon people

• Brigham Young
• Bruce R. McConkie
• Daniel H. Ludlow
• Eduardo Balderas
• 'Elisiva Fusipala Vaha'i
• Gordon B. Hinckley
• Janne M. Sjödahl
• John Gould (Mormon)
• John R. Park
• Joseph Smith
• Oliver Cowdery
• Ruth May Fox
• Sidney Rigdon
• Spencer W. Kimball
• Ziba Peterson

General articles linking to 'Standard Works'

Article	How used
Baptism for the dead	LDS Church scripture ...
Biblical canon	Main articles: Standard Works and Continuous revelation
Christian views on Hell	The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that the word Hell is used in scripture in at least two senses.
Immortality	According to this section of LDS scripture, the afterlife consists of three degrees or kingdoms of glory, ...
Mary (mother of Jesus)	The Book of Mormon, part of the Latter-day Saint canon of scripture, refers to Mary by name in prophecies of her mission
New Testament	Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or Mormons) accept the Bible (both Old and New Testaments) as the inspired word of God and a "companion scripture" to the Book of Mormon.
Prophecy	Further revelations claimed to have been given through Joseph Smith are published in the Doctrine and Covenants, one of four sacred LDS texts.
Religious text	Latter Day Saint movement See also: Standard Works The Bible in King James' version The Book of Mormon The Pearl of Great Price The Doctrine and Covenants
Song of Songs	The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the largest denomination in the Latter Day Saint movement, does not recognize the book as inspired, although it is included in the Church's canon and printed in Church-published copies of the Bible.

Lists, templates, etc.

• Category:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints texts
• Template:Latter-day Saints
• Template:Latter Day Saints
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 January 29
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 April 25
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Standard work
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Book of Mormon and the King James Bible
• Wikipedia:Date formatting and linking poll/List of articles with year-only links (5)
• Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2010 May 18

?* Wikipedia:Date formatting and linking poll/List of articles with both dmy and mdy dates (9)

Redirects

• Mormon scripture (redirect page)
• Mormon scriptures (redirect page)
• Mormon Scripture (redirect page)
  • Mormonism: A Historical Encyclopedia
• Standard Works of the LDS Church (redirect page)
  • Doctrine and Covenants
• Standard works (redirect page)
  • Talk:Book of Mormon
  • Thomas S. Monson
  • Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible
  • Bruce R. McConkie
  • Personal Progress
  • Talk:Standard Works
  • Joseph Smith—Matthew
  • Young Women (organization)
  • Search for the Truth (video)
  • Handbook (LDS Church)
  • Tree of life vision
  • Exit-Voice-Loyalty-Neglect Model

Talk pages

• Talk:Standard Works
• Talk:Book of Mormon
• Talk:President of the Church
• Talk:Biblical canon/Archive 3
• Talk:Bruce R. McConkie
• Template talk:Latter Day Saint movement
• Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints/Archive 8
• Talk:Mormonism and Christianity/Archive 12
• Talk:Perfection (Latter Day Saints)
• Talk:Revelation (Latter Day Saints)
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement/Archive 7
• Talk:Black people and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints/Temp
• Template talk:Books of the Bible
• Talk:Collected works (disambiguation)
• Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints/Archive 13
• Talk:Mormonism/Archive 3
• Talk:Mirza Ghulam Ahmad bibliography
• Talk:Mormonism and Islam
• Talk:Joseph Smith/Archive 17
• Talk:Mormons
• Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints/Archive 15
• Talk:Mormonism and Christianity/Archive 21
• Talk:Mountain Meadows massacre/Archive 17

User pages

• User:Trödel/Sandbox3
• User:NThurston/sandbox/test
• User:Peculiar Light/Sexuality in the LDS Church
• User:Signaj90/sandbox2
• User:Vassyana/Christianity
• User:WBardwin/Archive 7 (January - December 2008)
• User talk:COGDEN/Archive 1
• User talk:WBardwin
• User talk:Sbandrews
• User talk:Chiros Sunrider
• User talk:Fredsmith2
• User talk:Vsst
• User talk:VeyronX93
• User talk:Admiralsith
• User talk:Bella Swan/September 2007
• User talk:72Dino/Archive 1
• User talk:RHaworth/Archive to 2008 May
• User talk:41.210.6.206
• User talk:Jeodesic/Archive 1
• User talk:Jeodesic/Archive 1 (using Standard works redirect page)
• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints/Standard Works (redirect page)
  • User:Emijrp/FirstPages

Interwiki

I was at Timothy Zahn#Other Star Wars novels and control-clicked the five titles to bring the articles up in new browser tabs. I was surprised by two external sites when flipping through the sites. I discovered the Timothy Zahn article has

* ''[[Wookieepedia:Choices of One|Choices of One]]'' (2011)

* ''[[Wookieepedia:Scoundrels|Scoundrels]]'' (January 2013)

Wookieepedia is not one of the Wikimedia sister projects listed on Help:Interwikimedia links though it is listed on Special:Interwiki

The thinking is to develop guidelines about this. The only warning I had that these were not Wikipedia articles is that the links are a slightly different color. For example, here's a list from the Timothy Zahn article. The first three link to Wikipedia and the latter two to Wookieepedia.

• Survivor's Quest (2004)
• Outbound Flight (2006)
• Allegiance (2007)
• Choices of One (2011)
• Scoundrels (January 2013)

These are some of the interwiki links that are available that may be in the same category as Wookieepedia. The list is being reviewed and so there may well be items that are sister projects.

• abbenormal
• acronym
• advogato
• aew
• appropedia
• aquariumwiki
• arborwiki
• arxiv
• atmwiki
• b
• battlestarwiki - Gets Database error.
• bcnbio
• betawiki
• betawikiversity
• biblewiki
• bluwiki
• botwiki
• boxrec
• brickwiki
• bulba
• buzztard
• bytesmiths
• c2
• c2find
• cache - Google cache
• cellwiki
• centralwikia
• chej
• choralwiki
• citizendium
• ckwiss
• comixpedia
• communityscheme
• communitywiki
• comune
• corpknowpedia
• crazyhacks
• creatureswiki
• cxej
• d
• dcc
• dcdatabase
• dcma
• dejanews
• delicious
• devmo
• dict
• dictionary
• disinfopedia
• distributedproofreaders
• distributedproofreadersca
• dmoz
• dmozs
• docbook
• doi
• doom_wiki
• drae
• dreamhost
• drumcorpswiki
• dwjwiki
• ecoreality
• ecxei
• elibre
• emacswiki
• encyc
• energiewiki
• eokulturcentro
• ethnologue
• ethnologuefamily
• evowiki
• exotica
• eĉei
• fanimutationwiki
• finalempire
• finalfantasy
• finnix
• flickrphoto
• flickruser
• floralwiki
• flyerwiki-de
• foldoc
• forthfreak
• foxwiki
• freebio
• freebsdman
• freeculturewiki
• freedomdefined
• freefeel
• freekiwiki
• freenode
• ganfyd
• gardenology
• gausswiki
• gentoo-wiki
• genwiki
• globalvoices
• glossarwiki
• glossarywiki
• google
• googledefine
• googlegroups
• gotamac
• greatlakeswiki
• guildwarswiki
• guildwiki
• gutenberg
• gutenbergwiki
• h2wiki
• hammondwiki
• heroeswiki
• hrfwiki
• hrwiki
• hupwiki
• imdbcharacter
• imdbcompany
• imdbname
• imdbtitle
• infoanarchy
• infosecpedia
• infosphere
• irc
• iso639-3
• issn
• iuridictum
• jameshoward
• javanet
• javapedia
• jefo
• jiniwiki
• jira
• jspwiki
• jstor
• kamelo
• karlsruhe
• kerimwiki
• kinowiki
• kmwiki
• kontuwiki
• koslarwiki
• kpopwiki
• linguistlist
• linuxwiki
• linuxwikide
• liswiki
• literateprograms
• livepedia
• lojban
• lostpedia
• lqwiki
• lugkr
• luxo
• mariowiki
• marveldatabase
• meatball
• memoryalpha
• metawiki
• mineralienatlas
• moinmoin
• monstropedia
• mosapedia
• mozcom
• mozillawiki
• mozillazinekb
• musicbrainz
• mwod
• mwot
• nara
• nkcells
• nosmoke
• oeis
• olpc
• onelook
• openfacts
• openlibrary
• openstreetmap
• openwetware
• openwiki
• opera7wiki
• organicdesign
• orthodoxwiki
• osi_reference_model
• osmwiki
• ourmedia
• panawiki
• patwiki
• perlnet
• personaltelco
• phpwiki
• phwiki
• planetmath
• pmeg
• pythoninfo
• pythonwiki
• pywiki
• revo
• rfc
• rheinneckar
• robowiki
• rowiki
• s23wiki
• scholar
• scores
• scoutwiki
• scramble
• seapig
• seattlewiki
• seattlewireless
• securewikidc
• semantic-mw
• senseislibrary
• silcode
• slashdot
• slwiki
• smikipedia
• sourceforge
• squeak
• stewardry
• strategywiki
• sulutil
• svgwiki
• swinbrain
• swingwiki
• swtrain
• tabwiki
• tavi
• tclerswiki
• technorati
• tesoltaiwan
• thelemapedia
• theopedia
• thinkwiki
• tibiawiki
• tmbw
• tmnet
• tmwiki
• tools
• translatewiki
• tswiki
• tviv
• tvtropes
• twiki
• tyvawiki
• unreal
• urbandict
• usej
• usemod
• v
• viaf
• vinismo
• vkol
• vlos
• voy
• webisodes
• wiki
• wikia
• wikiasite
• wikibooks
• wikichat
• wikichristian
• wikicities
• wikicity
• wikidata
• wikif1
• wikifur
• wikihow
• wikiindex
• wikilemon
• wikilivres
• wikimac-de
• wikinews
• wikinfo
• wikinvest
• wikiotics
• wikipaltz
• wikiquote
• wikischool
• wikiskripta
• wikisophia
• wikisource
• wikispot
• wikiti
• wikitree
• wikiversity
• wikivoyage
• wikiweet
• wikiwikiweb
• wikt
• wiktionary
• wipipedia
• wlug
• wookieepedia
• wowwiki
• wqy
• wurmpedia
• zrhwiki
• zum
• zwiki
• zzz_wiki
• ĉej

Nowiki

This section is for testing <-- HMTL comment--> and <nowiki> handling by the visual editor.

* ''[[Wookieepedia:Scoundrels|Scoundrels]]'' (January 2013)