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== Dominic Luciano ==

The sad thing (and please note that I never read the article in question) is that based upon [http://archive.mailtribune.com/archive/2007/0216/life/stories/rod_and_custom_show.htm this] it almost seems that something might have been put together about an amazing 15-year-old kid with cerebral palsy, neurofibromatosis, and (in 2007) 14 tumors in his body... who still has the time and courage to work with computers and play jazz piano. If the article author had asked for help instead throwing a tantrum, he might well have recieved it. You showed incredible restraint. I hope you don't mind if I dig a bit more into Dominic online to see if some minor notability might be found. Maybe this debacle can become a win for Wiki. Regards, '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<b><sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup></b>]]'' 09:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

:Of course. Post back here if you feel you have something and I'll take another look. I imagine the deleting admin would be prepared to drop a copy of the article in your user:space, if asked. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 09:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:Also, see my comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADiscospinster&diff=243123012&oldid=242644657 here]. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 09:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks for the advice. I'll request he drop it [[User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox Dominic Luciano|HERE]] if it can be done, and will most definitely check back for your input. The author had been quite testy and you showed remarkable restraint. I have actually sent him a message through his youtube account (same username) and perhaps he might deal with me civilly. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<b><sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup></b>]]'' 19:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Re:[[Dominic Luciano]] ==

In the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominic Luciano|AfD]] for this article, the author did state "Then quit screwing around and delete it already." It was then tagged G7 by [[User:MuZemike]]. I read through the AfD and was fairly sure that with the tenuous claim to notability, coupled with the uncivil attitudes of the various (?) article supporters, the article was not going to be kept anyway (at least not as it was). As far as I was concerned, the author ''did'' request deletion, and s/he still had the opportunity to redact it or take it back.

As you suggested, I'm exhuming the article and placing it at [[User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox Dominic Luciano]] if anyone wants to have a go at it. <font color="DarkGray">...</font> [[User:discospinster|<font color="DarkOrange">'''disco'''</font><font color="DarkOliveGreen">'''''spinster'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:discospinster|'''<font color="DarkGray">talk</font>''']]</sub> 02:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

:I just left my thank you on DS's talk page. I can see the problem with peacock in the article. I will look for sources and see if some judiscious sandblasting might make it encyclopedic. Not excusing the author's incivility, he was apparently creating an homage to a young man who is even now recuperaqting from an unsuccessful surgery to remove tumors... and the mere use of the word "delete" associated with his friend pushed him past reasoning. I'll see what can be done... and thank you. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<b><sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup></b>]]'' 04:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

::Thank you both. I've watchlisted the sandbox. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 07:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== Psych folk ==

Thanks, but I suspect this one will keep on running. It does need reliable sources, so I'll try and dig some out. [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 21:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== R&J ==

I think we're ready for FAC now. As the two top contributors, perhaps we should co-nom? [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
*I think we're ready also. I wonder, though, if we should ask Awadewit if she would cast a final eye over it? Also, I expect Xover would want to co-nom with us and maybe Malkinnian (not sure of spelling) should be asked, too. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
**Of course, and Smatprt. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 21:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
***Good thinking. Do you want to draft a nomination statement somewhere that I can add my tildes to? [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 21:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
****I just nominated it,so you can just add it at FAC. Be sure to add your name under "Nominator(s)" at the top so you get credit. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 21:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Adadewit will see it at FAC shortly, won't she? ;) Thanks for your advice on FAC behaviour - I've never been a proper co-nom on a FAC before! I did a lot of work on researching the themes prior to the GAC, so I hope that it holds up to FAC. -[[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] ([[User talk:Malkinann|talk]]) 21:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Pretty cool. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 21:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== On talk page guidelines ==

Hiya Andy! I recently redid my edits to [[Talk:Romeo + Juliet]], which you undid on October 16. You claimed that "we [Wikipedians] don't delete talk page conversations, however banal]. If you would take a look at the corresponding guideline, [[WP:TPG]] and more specifically, [[WP:TPG#Others' comments]], you'll see that in fact "''Deleting material not relevant to improving the article''" is appropriate, which, in my personal opinion, was more than just: babbling about the guns used in the film and "racially motivated" cast choices are not discussions about the article on the film, but the film itself - I myself even joined those "discussions" when I was just a newbie on Wikipedia.

Often talk pages are filled with ranting, personal attacks and even advertisements. I sure hope you do delete those messages! Kind regards, --[[User:Soetermans|<small>'''Soetermans'''</small>]] | [[User talk:Soetermans|<small>'''is listening'''</small>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Soetermans|<small>'''what he'd do now?'''</small>]] 17:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== External links on Romeo & Juliet ==

Hi Andy, I'm curious why you removed the Shmoop analysis of Romeo & Juliet from External Links. I read the rules for external links and thought I was in the clear. Shmoop has about 150 print pages worth of analysis on R&J, written by Ph.D. from Berkeley who teaches the play in english classes at Berkeley. Shmoop also offer a writing guide that walks students through the process of writing a paper on R&J. I'd love to learn from your experience and figure out an appropriate way to link to Shmoop's resources from this article. (Also, check out Shmoop's jobs page - we hire Shakespeare buffs). Many thanks, [[User:Barriodude|Barriodude]] ([[User talk:Barriodude|talk]])
*I've moved this conversation to the article's talk page ([[Talk:Romeo and Juliet#External links on Romeo & Juliet|here]]), where a wider group of people will comment. Be warned that the article is going through a featured article candidacy as we speak (see [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Romeo and Juliet|here]] for all the gory details), so expect to have to fight for any change you want to make, right now! Best, [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 08:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Shakespeare|WikiProject Shakespeare]] notice==

There is currently a discussion going on regarding the project's policy on how information on characters should be represented in articles on Shakespeare's plays. Please take part by clicking [[Talk:Romeo and Juliet#Character Analysis]]. Further context, if needed, can be found by scanning the two previous talk sections on the page as well. <small>Sent by [[User:ShepBot|<font color="green">'''§hepBot'''</font>]]'''&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:ShepBot|<font color="red">Disable</font>]])</small>''' at 04:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC) per request of [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]])</small>

== Sandboxing Something ==

[[Felice_Beato#Selected_photographs]]

[[Belton_House#Owners_of_Belton_House]]

[[Boydell_Shakespeare_Gallery#List_of_art_works]]

[[Flag_of_Armenia#Usage]]

[[Flag_of_Australia#Construction]]

[[Flag_of_Belarus#Proper_flag_protocol]]

[[Albatross#Species]]

[[Actuary#Notable_actuaries]]

[[Dime_(United_States_coin)#Mintage_figures]]

[[Demand_Note#Common_features_among_denominations]]

== Levenson 2006? ==

Hi Andy, I just noticed when I was trying to port over some of the definition of "star-crossed" into [[star-crossed]] that although you put in the footnote to Levenson 2006, it's not in the big full references list at the end of Romeo and Juliet. Did you mean it was from Levenson 2000? Could you please have a look at this for me? Thanks! --[[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] ([[User talk:Malkinann|talk]]) 21:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:Good catch: you're right. I've fixed it. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 21:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::And looking at the big reference list in detail, I've found some more problems... :'( Help? --[[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] ([[User talk:Malkinann|talk]]) 21:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Of course. I'll be at the university library tomorrow so in principle I should be able to fix anything (!!!). What type of problems? I'm logging off Wikipedia now but I'll check back in the morning. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 22:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::::[[Talk:Romeo_and_Juliet#Reference_problems_-_help.3F]] covers the ones that I've found - I've removed the seemingly unused references, but there are still date discrepencies between footnote and reference with John Russell Taylor, Rodriguez, Furness, and Bloom. (Not sure which Bloom, either - there are two listed in the references.) --[[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] ([[User talk:Malkinann|talk]]) 22:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany]] ==

Hi, per [[Talk:Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany#Restrictions_on_rationing|this post]], I will be glad if you provide an alternative structure per your suggestion in the talk page. Thanks. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 09:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Piped links in dab pages ==

Andy, Album titles etc are piped in dab pages for formatting - see [[Wikipedia:MOSDAB#Exceptions]]. [[User:PamD|PamD]] ([[User talk:PamD|talk]]) 09:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 09:34, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

== A Newsletter? ==

Hey.

What do you think about something like [[User:Xover/Sandbox|this]]? Work in progress, obviously, and I'm hoping someone will step up and replace the [[lorem ipsum]]. :-) --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 08:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
==WTF?==

Hi Andy, I had added that line "In the groupings listed below, the names of the play's pivotal characters link to expanded descriptions." in an attempt to respond to Karanacks continued complaints about the list. I was trying to provide context as to the appearance of the list with weight being given to the major (or pivotal) characters by virtue of them having links to expanded articles. I obviously failed. I guess "agree to disagree" is the way to go. I certainly have no problem with the revert and will gladly let it stand. [[User:Smatprt|Smatprt]] ([[User talk:Smatprt|talk]]) 21:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
*Yes: I wondered afterwards if that was the explanation. Sorry if the edit summary was a bit harsh. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 22:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

== Yes… ==

…you do. --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 20:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
*Excellent, thanks. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 20:26, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== Afterlife ==

Well, I've started working on Macbeth, personally. Good luck with the new job. [[User:Wrad|Wrad]] ([[User talk:Wrad|talk]]) 16:48, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

== Gavin.collins RFC/U ==

Hello. A [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct|request for comment on user conduct]] has recently been filed regarding [[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin.collins]]. Since you had endorsed at least one summary in the prior Request for Comment, I thought that you would want to know. You can see the RFC/U [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Gavin.collins 2|here]]. Thank you. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 00:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Happy Holidays! ==

Happy holidays Andy, and the very best of wishes to you and yours in the new year! Here's hoping Real Life won't keep you too busy to hang around the `pedia in 2009: we miss your steady hand! :-) --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 15:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you. Christmas Wishes to you, too. Expect to see me vastly less than usual during my current work assignment (slated to end February), though, since I've not got spare internet-time during the week (nor sometimes at weekends!). I haven't been lost to Wikipedia though. The Shakespeare project can expect to see my work again in a few months. Best, [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 19:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thin air ==

Ack! Good catch on the ''Tempest'' quote! --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 13:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
*Thanks. Funnily enough, I'm learning the speech for a course I'm doing next weekend, so the gap stuck me the moment I saw it! [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 15:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Lady Macbeth: Reply ==

The only reason I reverted it is because it wasn't a useful improvement, I'm aware she is a 'villain' in it, can't live in England and not know about Shakespeare and his various work. Thank you for contacting me though.

'''Edit''' I made the mistake of selecting [[WP:BLP]] whilst in Huggle, that was the only reason behind that sort of revert. [[User:DaisukeVulgar|DaisukeVulgar]] ([[User talk:DaisukeVulgar|talk]]) 20:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==[[Women in Shakespeare]]==

Hi. I'd be curious to know what your opinion on this article is. The topic is clearly notable, but the article as it stands is original research and an essay. Might it be better to seek to have this deleted, and wait until a better version is produced? It seems deleterious to keep it lying around in this state. - [[User:Biruitorul|Biruitorul]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Biruitorul|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== Request for comment ==

Hi Andy. Per the stipulations at [[WP:CANVASSING]], I've pinged your talk page to "appropriately canvass" you wrt the deletion discussion currently taking place at "[[WP:Articles for deletion/Home and family blog]]." (Note that I've also pinged the talkpages of ''all'' of your fellow participants at last years deletion discussion at "[[WP:Articles for deletion/List of blogs]]," to ensure that my notifications are to a small number of wiki-contributors that have been neutrally selected.) I hope you'll consider taking part in our discussion. Thanks.[[User:Justmeherenow|<span style="font-family:Mistral; font-size:small;">''' ↜J''us''t m''e,'' h''er''e, n''o''w''' …</span>]] 07:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== File:Dai Hsi 2.JPG ==

Hey there AndyJones, I'm just letting you know I removed the {{[[Template:Di-disputed fair use rationale|di-disputed fair use rationale]]}} template from [[:File:Dai Hsi 2.JPG]] as it is not licensed as a [[WP:NFCC|non-free image]], so this tag does not apply. If you believe this image is possibly unfree, the next venue to take this image is [[WP:PUF]]. Regards. — '''''[[User:Explicit|<font color="800000">Σ</font>]]'''''<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User talk:Explicit|<font color="8D0000">xplicit</font>]]</span> 04:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, except the page says "'''Summary''' fair use" and "'''Comment''' fair use" which sound like two assertions of fair use to me. If your reference to the fact that it's not fair use is based on the fact that it's also tagged {PD-self} then you're relying on a tag that's clearly and self-evidently wrong. Dai Xi (whose article claims he died in 1860) is unlikely to be a Wikipedian.

:I'm not saying this can't be fixed. Maybe it ought to be {pd-old} or something. The point is that someone more knowledgable than me needs to check that, and removing the tag hasn't solved the problem. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones|talk]]) 18:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, but the problem with the image is that it's tagged with {{[[Template:PD-self|PD-self]]}}, which I think we can both agree is false, so [[WP:PUF]] would probably be the next option. {{[[Template:PD-old|PD-old]]}} states that "''This image is in the public domain because its copyright has expired in the United States and those countries with a copyright term of no more than the life of the author plus 100 years''." According to the [[Dai Xi|article]], Xi lived from 1801–1860, making his lifespan approximately 59 years. 100+59=159, so 1860+159=2019. Therefore, the image doesn't fall under that license yet. The tag you restored also puts this image in a [[:Category:Disputed non-free Wikipedia files as of 4 July 2009|deleted category]], which is why I removed the tag. — '''''[[User:Explicit|<font color="800000">Σ</font>]]'''''<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User talk:Explicit|<font color="8D0000">xplicit</font>]]</span> 18:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

:OK. Are you intending to take it there, or are you asking me to do so? [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 19:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Since you have the rationale, I believe it would be fit if you nominated it. — '''''[[User:Explicit|<font color="800000">Σ</font>]]'''''<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User talk:Explicit|<font color="8D0000">xplicit</font>]]</span> 21:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, I think I'm mistaken. It just has to be 100 years after the death of the author, which should can be applied in this case. — '''''[[User:Explicit|<font color="800000">Σ</font>]]'''''<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User talk:Explicit|<font color="8D0000">xplicit</font>]]</span> 00:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Someone is violating your copyright/license ==

I noticed last week that the [http://www.alcottartscenter.org/ Alcott Arts Center] appears to have copied your basic Plot Summary of Shakespeare's "Comedy Of Errors" for their production this coming weekend, without any attempt to comply with the Creative Commons BY-SA license, and attempted to claim some form of ownership by changing four or five words. Let me show you the two summaries.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Comedy_of_Errors Your Plot Summary:] "The Comedy of Errors tells the story of two sets of identical twins that were accidentally separated at birth. Antipholus of Syracuse and his servant, Dromio of Syracuse, arrive in Ephesus, which turns out to be the home of their twin brothers, Antipholus of Ephesus and his servant, Dromio of Ephesus. When the Syracusans encounter the friends and families of their twins, a series of wild mishaps based on mistaken identities lead to wrongful beatings, a near-incestuous seduction, the arrest of Antipholus of Ephesus, and accusations of infidelity, theft, madness, and demonic possession."

[http://www.alcottartscenter.org/Alcott_Arts_Center/Calendar.html Their Plot Summary:] "the play tells the story of two sets of identical twins separated at birth. Antipholus of Syracuse and his servant Dromio of Syracuse arrive in Ephesus, which turns out to be the home of their twin brothers, named the same. When the Syracusans encounter the friends and families of their twins, a series of wild mishaps based on mistaken identities lead to beatings, a near-incestuous seduction, the arrest of Antipholus of Ephesus, and accusations of infidelity, theft, and demonic possession."

They list the unattributed summary on their August 1 and 2, 2009, events calendar dates, as well as on their Google Calendar ([http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=bThjczdobzE2MnI0bXFrdWZwZjVnc2Jyb3MgOWY0MDllYjN0MTU5bjQ5bzgwM3JsY3U3dWNAZw&ctz=America/Chicago August 1, 2009], [http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=aHJjc2J1dDZtMmQ0bTlocGk5dmk2cXFqZWsgOWY0MDllYjN0MTU5bjQ5bzgwM3JsY3U3dWNAZw&ctz=America/Chicago August 2, 2009]).

I sent them a friendly warning asking them to either do attribution and link to the CC-BY-SA license text, or change the text in order to comply with the CC license, but they seem to be ignoring the email. I looked up the "Comedy Of Errors" Wiki history and you are the one who created that particular basic plot summary. So now I'm telling you, the copyright holder, about the Alcott Arts Center's copyright infringement of your work.
[[User:Bryananderson|Bryananderson]] ([[User talk:Bryananderson|talk]]) 19:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for your concern, but to be honest I'm not too worried. The moment I post something under GFDL I cease to have any meaningful personal copyright in it: and people will inevitably re-use it, not always in strict accordance with the terms of the licence. Strictly speaking you're right, though: they really should acknowledge if they copy their material from Wikipedia. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 20:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==

I notice you have not made a similar threat (and that is what you have done on my talk page) to the user [[Ceoil]]. Maybe while you are doing this, you can address the personal attacks he has made at me on his talk page, attacks which I have not provoked or responded to in kind. [[User:Darktower 12345|Darktower 12345]] ([[User talk:Darktower 12345|talk]]) 21:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
*You've already warned him. He doesn't need another one from me. I see another user started a discussion on the article's talk page: I suggest you talk it out, there. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 21:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== The [[WP:ARS|Article Rescue Squadron]] Newsletter (September 2009) ==

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== New Shakespeare Template and Info box ==

Hi Andy, I don't think we've spoken before, but I've been doing some work on Shakespeare recently. I've done overhauls on ''[[The Two Gentlemen of Verona]]'', ''[[The Taming of the Shrew]]'', ''[[Henry VI, Part 2]]'' and ''[[Henry VI, Part 3]]'' and am just finishing up ''[[Henry VI, Part 1]]''. I'm not sure you're the person to contact about this, so if not, I apologise for bothering you; the reason I contact you is that I notice the Shakespeare template box has been completely redesigned, but shouldn't there have been some discussion about it? I notice from the talk page that usually people propose a new design to see if others like it or not. Shouldn't that have happened here? Also, I noticed that the same user has added an info box to the top of the ''Two Gentlemen of Verona'' page. Again, shouldn't this be something which needs discussing, and if accepted, mentioned on the standardised layout on the project page? I could be wrong here on both counts of course, which is why I sought your opinion. Thanks Andy. [[User:Bertaut|Bertaut]] ([[User talk:Bertaut|talk]]) 17:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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== Late replies to your ref.desk question: "Thinking outside.." ==

See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2010_February_18#Thinking_outside_yourself Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2010_February_18#Thinking_outside_yourself]<br/>--[[User:Seren-dipper|Seren-dipper]] ([[User talk:Seren-dipper#top|talk]]) 23:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)<br/>--[[User:Seren-dipper|Seren-dipper]] ([[User talk:Seren-dipper#top|talk]]) 00:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== You are now a Reviewer ==

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== [[Court of Common Pleas (Ireland)]] ==

Hi Andy, long time no… &c.

While working on [[Edmond Malone]] I noticed that [[Court of Common Pleas (Ireland)]] was a redlink. Since you mention that you're an attorney, and it relates peripherally to Shakespeare, I thought perhaps you would be interested in at least stubbing the article. The article on [[Court of Common Pleas (England)]] is reasonably well developed, but I don't know how much of that material is relevant for the Irish institution. In any case, I figured I'd be so bold as to drop you a note on the off chance you'd be interested in de-redlinking this.

PS. I've nominated [[The Tempest]] at [[WP:GAC]]. No one has stepped up to review it yet, but I hope it won't be too long now. It would be very nice to have your input when we deal with the inevitable niggling issues from the review. Cheers, --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 15:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I wasn't expecting miracles, but I figured you might at least have a better idea of what sources might be worth checking to stub out an article on the Court (cf. eg. what I did on [[Peter Martin (professor)|Peter Martin]]; just a line of actual article, but a list of sources that can be used to flesh it out further). Anyways, thanks for taking a look anyway: as mentioned, it was mostly a long shot because the redlink annoyed me.
::As for ''[[The Tempest]]'', I'm pretty sure you're still by far the largest contributor by pure edit count, so I expect most of your material is still there (although possibly somewhat mutilated in the interval). I would very much appreciate it if you were able to keep half an eye out for its GA, for that very reason: there are whole sections of it that I'm utterly unqualified to do anything with. And if we should manage to lure you back to Wikipedia more in the process then that would be an undivided bonus for the project. :-) Cheers, --21:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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:I took the liberty of supplying a fair use rationale for the image. Do, of course, feel free to revert or change as you please. --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 14:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::Great, thank you. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 21:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Nomination of [[LegalMatch]] for deletion ==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|42px]]</div>A discussion has begun about whether the article [[LegalMatch]], which you created or to which you contributed, should be [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion| deleted]]. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion policy]].

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== Hope you can help ==

Hi Andy. Would you please [[Talk:William_Shakespeare#A_call_to_Shakespeare_editors|take a look?]] [[User:Tom Reedy|Tom Reedy]] ([[User talk:Tom Reedy|talk]]) 18:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lists of fictional... ==

At [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_fictional_salespeople]], I quoted an AFD comment you had made a while back. I thought I should let you know as a courtesy in case you feel that this no longer represents your view on the subject or if you have anything else to contribute to the current discussion.

<strike>Also, do you have any idea why, out of all the nominations back then, only [[List of fictional coaches]] was deleted?</strike> Never mind, clear from restored content.
[[User:Matchups|Ma]]<sup>[[User talk:Matchups|t]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Matchups|c]]</sub>[[User:Matchups|hups]] 16:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

== The Barnstar of Epic Awsomeness ==


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== Block ==
:My suggestion would be to stick with the topic that interests you. My interest lies mostly in biography, and I find all the litcrit stuff actively wearying, so bringing a play article to FA tends to sap my energy and interest disproportionately. It'd probably be different if we managed to get the good, constructive, collaborations with several editors going—since such collaborations can be fun in themselves, regardless of the topic—but with the very low number of editors we usually manage to bring in, and the inevitable drama, it's better to stick with something you have an interest in in itself. I'd much rather see you do the occasional ''Afterlife'' section well, than have you throw up your hands in disgust, and go find greener pastures.
{{unblock reviewed |1=Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. My IP address is 155.190.0.0/16. I don't know whether the IP ought to be blocked but my experience in the past was that if I actually logged in from a blocked IP - and since I was never personally blocked - Wikipedia editing would work. This time it hasn't - I've logged in as myself and I remain blocked. Do you know why this is happening? If you refuse the unblock is there a workaround? [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 13:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC) |decline = Glad you asked, because yes there is. This decline is purely procedural, as your account is not blocked so, one workaround would be editing from another IP not on the blocked range. But the better option is to go to [[WP:IPECPROXY]] and follow the instructions there to request IP block exemption, which would make any proxy blocks you might get caught in into proxy blocks other users get caught in. — [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 07:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)}}[[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 13:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


*Thank you [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]]. I will check that out! [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
:On that note, nevermind the timing, I think it would be useful if you left a note on the article's talk page outlining what you've done, and pointing at any weak spots or similar, for other editors' reference. And also to drop a note on the [[WP:BARD]] talk page to similar effect. This is actually an “underhanded” ploy to start to build up the WikiProject to a sustainable level: right now all anyone sees is a wasteland, only disturbed by the big drama-explosions that happen periodically, and stay far far away. The few editors who are active over time thus have to carry a disporportional part of the burden, which wears them out and uses up their enthusiasm. I want to slowly but surely try to build up the project to critical mass, where people see fruitful and collegial collaboration and want to join and do their part, so that we can actually start to make a dent in the most critical articles. Reminding people that there are other things than drama happening is one piece of that puzzle; and showing by example that there are other editors here who ''do'' manage to collaborate and edit collegially is another.


== Howdy ==
:Or put another way, the editors who have done the best and the most work on improving the articles under WikiProject Shakespeare's scope lately are you and {{u|Bertaut}} (who has very quietly done some great work on a ''lot'' of play articles), but for all the world (i.e. all the potential new editors on the project) by all the noise and light it ''looks like'' all the action has been me, Tom, Nishidani, Paul, Smatprt, etc. and the SAQ stuff; and that stuff is actively discouraging to those editors that we want to get engaged in the project. I want to make it plainly visible that there is other stuff, good stuff, happening too! --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 10:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


Andy! As I live and breathe...{{pb}}Great to see you're still around (in general), and great to see you around (here) again. The place is still a dump, but it tends to get magically better whenever you spend time here. :){{pb}}For my own part I spend most of my time over on Wikisource these days, transcribing old public domain books (well, and helping with the nerdy bits), but I sometimes pop back over. Pure dumb luck it should be the same day you did.{{pb}}In any case… Good to see you! [[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 19:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
== Songs that reference Magic [Copied from the Entertainment Ref-desk] ==
*Hello!!! Yes, I'm probably only dropping in. Back in the late noughties I found being a Wikipedian was interfering with my career a bit, so I tried to roll it back. A couple of years ago I read all the subsequent drama regarding the authorship question (no really, all of it, it took months) and I was pleased to see that yours was always a voice of calm and common sense amidst a sea of anger! It does seem to me that although there is much less aggravation than there was a decade ago, there's also less by way of progress: [[WP:BARD]] seems to be dormant and there's not much drive to improve things. I see that in other areas too: I arrived here a few weeks ago to check-out an article on a legal topic which I had set a question on and had been sent a pile of papers to mark. I wanted to know to what extent Wikipedia would have helped the students and the answer was "not-at-all". The article was a mix of things that were wrong and things that were out of date - not because of bad editing, but because of a complete lack of editing. The last human being to have commented on its talk page had done so in 2013. Anyway, no individual can fix all of Wikipedia's issues. But I can take a look at Othello, to see what I can fix, shortly. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 13:29, 19 January 2023 (UTC)


== Short descriptions ==
Not a proper reference desk question, I know, but I'd be grateful for any examples to add to this brainstorm of songs which reference magic. The criteria are:
#Very prominent references in the title, chorus or frequently-repeated phrase better than subtler ones.
#The word "magic" preferred to related words like "spell" or "illusion".
#Big chart hits which everyone knows preferred to obscure album tracks.
#Songs where the connection is obvious are better than ones where you'd need foreknowledge to make the connection (e.g. [[The Magic Flute]] or [[Hedwig's Theme]]).
#The more eclectic the list becomes, the better.
My list begins:
*You Can Do Magic - Limmie & the Family Cooking
*Every Little Thing She Does is Magic - The Police
*A Kind of Magic - Queen
*Magic - Pilot
*I put a Spell on You - Nina Simone
*Love Sex Magic - Ciara & Justin Timberlake [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones|talk]]) 11:06, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


For the long version, see [[WP:Short description]] and [[WP:HOWTOSD]]. For the reason that they are restricted to just 40 characters, see [[Wikipedia talk:Short description/Archive 9#Length – 40 or 90 characters??]]
[[The Marvelettes]] with [[My Baby Must Be a Magician]] [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 11:13, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


As well as giving a capsule response to a search, they are also used by {{tl|annotated link}} in [[wp:see also]] lists, as way to suggest to readers why they might want to explore further. As you know, some article names are terse and thus only meaningful to readers who already know about a topic. So in the case you raised, this is the effect:
[[Magic Moments]] [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 11:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
* {{annotated link|Intestacy}}
:[[Do You Believe in Magic (song)]] [[User:Staecker|Staecker]] ([[User talk:Staecker|talk]]) 11:43, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
The abbreviated form {{tl|anli}} is more convenient. Welcome back to the time sink. [[User:John Maynard Friedman|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:John Maynard Friedman|talk]]) 16:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)


[[Magic (Olivia Newton-John song)|Magic]] by [[Olivia Newton-John]]. [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 11:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
*Works for me! Thanks a lot for your help. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 16:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)


== Hamlet ==
::''[[Ramble On]]'' by [[Led Zeppelin]]. ''[[The Wizard (Black Sabbath song)|The Wizard]]'' by [[Black Sabbath]]. ''[[Blood Sugar Sex Magik]]'' by the [[Red Hot Chili Peppers]]. --[[User:Saddhiyama|Saddhiyama]] ([[User talk:Saddhiyama|talk]]) 11:51, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
:::"Ramble On"? That doesn't exactly meet the OP's criteria as it's not very prominent and, dare I say, barely a passing mention is made in the line "How years ago in days of old, when magic filled the air." It's basically a song about losing a girl. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:06, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
::::Perhaps not. But it is a well-known song by a wellknown band, and it does have an entire verse dedicated to Tolkien's Middle Earth universe (which can be said to be magical in its own right). --[[User:Saddhiyama|Saddhiyama]] ([[User talk:Saddhiyama|talk]]) 12:11, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


Perhaps you already know this, but the actual Hamlet quote is "The apparel oft proclaims the man". One of those "Who wrote that? Eh, probably Shakespeare." things. ''[[Upstart Crow]]'' had fun with that. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:56, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
:"[[Black Magic Woman]]" - Santana, err... I've heard this song for years and always thought it was written by Santana but apparently not. <small>psst... Song titles should be in double quotes per [[MOS:TITLE]]</small> --<span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks, yes. Polonius, if I recall correctly. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 13:00, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
::Kate. Why then, Mr Shakespeare, call the watch, appeal to the Privy Council, cry foul and naughty tricks, for I fear you have been plagiarized.
::Shakespeare. Plagiarized? By whom? Who’s stealing my biggies? Name this thieving barnstaple.
::Kate. The apostle Matthew!
::Shakespeare. The swine – and him a man of God!
::Kate. Mr. Shakespeare, ‘He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword’ is in the Bible.
::Shakespeare. Really? You’re sure?
::Kate. Yes. Matthew, chapter 26 verse 52, although interestingly, he didn’t come up with it either. A form of the phrase first appears in the ancient Greek play Agamemnon by the immortal dramatist Aeschylus.
::Shakespeare. Well, if the apostle Matthew can pinch it, then so can I. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 13:15, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
:::LOL! [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 09:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
::::I scrolled up a bit and saw you mentioned reading old SAQ discussions. You may enjoy this fairly recent one: [[Talk:List_of_Shakespeare_authorship_candidates#Recent_WP:SPS_additions]]. I have a spotty and shallow Shakespeare interest, but this is WP, so I can still create articles like [[Shakespeare coat of arms]] and [[Shakespeare and Star Trek]]. And [[Shakespeare's signet ring]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:55, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. Yes, I've read all of that talk page conversation now too. (Although not feeling much wiser.) [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 12:45, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::Some passion there, though. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 13:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


== Boulton and Park ==
Here's a list I extracted from my record collection:
Hey Andy, I noticed after posting [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Repeated_policy_violations/abuse,_personal_insults,_and_likely_tag-teaming_at_Boulton_and_Park my own ANI complaint] that you had taken an interest in the issue, and thought you might appreciate a bit more context. — [[User:Personman|Personman]] ([[User talk:Personman|talk]]) 09:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
*Magical Musical Tour - [[Pink_Lady_(band)|Pink_Lady]] (an LP)
*Animal Magic - [[QED_(band)|QED]]
*The Magic Of New Pop Music - [[Deus_(band)|Deus]]
*Magic Carpet Ride - Bedlam
*The Egyptian Magician - The Jerky Boys
*Magic (Asadoya Yunta) - [[Blondie_(band)|Blondie]]
*By The Light Of A Magical Moon - [[Marc Bolan]]
*Magic Garden - [[Dusty Springfield]]
*Magic - [[Ladyhawke_(musician)|Ladyhawke]]
*He's Got Magic - [[Noosha Fox|Fox]]
*Magic Machine - [[Noosha Fox|Fox]]
*The Magic Is Still There - [[Renee Geyer]]
*Some Kinda Magic - [[Goanna_(band)|Goanna]]
*Magic Man - [[Heart_(band)|Heart]]
*Magic Woman Touch - [[Hollies]]
*Magic Touch - [[Mike Oldfield]]
*I'll Be Your Majick - [[Def FX]]
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: If [[Jazz standard]]s count, [[That Old Black Magic]] by Harold Arlen and Johnny Mercer (1942). [[User:AndrewWTaylor|AndrewWTaylor]] ([[User talk:AndrewWTaylor|talk]]) 20:31, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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:"Magic" by Bruce Springsteen. --[[User:Viennese Waltz|Viennese Waltz]] 08:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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:"[[Abracadabra (Steve Miller Band song)|Abracadabra]]" might actually be the worst song ever, but it's very well known and very about magic. Look out though, because it will reach out and grab ya. [[User:Recury|Recury]] ([[User talk:Recury|talk]]) 20:05, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

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: [[Magic Bus (song)| I don't want to cause no fuss ...]] —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 01:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

*''[[This Magic Moment]]''
*''[[Magician's Birthday]]''
*''Magic Penny'' by [[Malvina Reynolds]]
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'''PS''' Nobody has mentioned [[Puff the Magic Dragon]]. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 20:08, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
*Or [[The Beatles]]' Magical Mystery Tour. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 12:49, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
:: <small>Except Jayron. —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 20:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)</small>
:::Oh, yeah. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 18:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

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*Thanks. I don't think I want to help with that one. Good luck with it. I'd suggest the next step is to find plenty of [[WP:RS|sources]]. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 18:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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I'm writing an academic article on people-participation in the 'production' of Shakespeare studies.
I noticed that you had recently provided some edits for the Wiki Shakespeare page, and wondered if I might ask you some questions about that?
This project is at a very early stage so I've not yet refined or worked out a fixed methodology. So the questions are also not yet fully formed. (And I am aware that you also contribute to many other pages.)
1. What motivates you specifically to contribute specifically to the Shakespeare page?
2. Do you consider that your skills in this regard are general, technical, or specialist?
3. Have you contributed to other Shakespeare-related pages?
3. What's you opinion on how the Shakespeare page has evolved over time?
4. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the Shakespeare page in terms of its current form and content?
5. Who would you say are the target readers for this page?
6. What have been the advantages and/or the frustrations of working on the Shakespeare page?
7. What are your reflections on the process of wiki-engagement in terms of dialogue, connection, community and collaboration?
8. In your view, are there any other questions that ought to be considered?
Many thanks for taking the time to read this!
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*Yes, happy to help in principle. But I am busier now than I was when I was a very active Wikipedian, and I'm not as knowledgeable about Jonson as I am about the bard: I've read a few of his plays but I'm not a particular fan. Also I should warn you that I'm a firm believer in the theory that the works of Jonson were written by the Duke of Clarence. [[User:AndyJones|AndyJones]] ([[User talk:AndyJones#top|talk]]) 21:03, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar
For truly awesome and inspirational work on List of Shakespearean characters I award you the original barnstar SilkTork 00:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The Outlaw Halo Award
To Andy Jones, for salvaging great works on pop culture for later use....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(about the award)


The Barnstar of High Culture
I commend your hard work on William Shakespeare. Choosing to edit such a high-profile, controversial and research-intensive article is a mark of patience, perseverance and dedication to Wikipedia that is rarely seen. We clearly need more editors, such as yourself, who are willing to dedicate their time and energy to writing articles about their areas of expertise. Awadewit | talk 04:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The Barnstar of Good Humour
In small recognition of your consistently witty edit-summaries, which are a joy to read, please accept this Barnstar of Good Humour. --ROGER DAVIES talk 18:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The Half Barnstar
For your very fine work on Hamlet with Wrad --ROGER DAVIES talk 19:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The Editor's Barnstar
I award you this Barnstar for your tireless and fine work on Hamlet, while at the same time staying in good spirits. I haven't had the chance to work with you directly much, but your contributions deserve some recognition (though it looks like you've already got lots of it.) Happy Editing! Bardofcornish (talk) 22:57, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The Original Barnstar
…for your amazing rewrite of the Romeo and Juliet Screen adaptations section. It was good but your rewrite is magnificent. If we can achieve that quality for the rest of the article it'll be FA in no time! --Xover (talk) 11:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The Invisible Barnstar
As per always, you've snuck in and done a massive and spectacular job on King Lear, without getting yourself embroiled in the seemingly inevitable dramaz! For this you get The Invisible Barnstar, since I couldn't find the Ultimate Barnstar of Epic Awsomeness that you really deserve (if you keep this up may have to create one, just for you). Xover (talk) 10:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. My IP address is 155.190.0.0/16. I don't know whether the IP ought to be blocked but my experience in the past was that if I actually logged in from a blocked IP - and since I was never personally blocked - Wikipedia editing would work. This time it hasn't - I've logged in as myself and I remain blocked. Do you know why this is happening? If you refuse the unblock is there a workaround? AndyJones (talk) 13:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC) [reply]

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Glad you asked, because yes there is. This decline is purely procedural, as your account is not blocked so, one workaround would be editing from another IP not on the blocked range. But the better option is to go to WP:IPECPROXY and follow the instructions there to request IP block exemption, which would make any proxy blocks you might get caught in into proxy blocks other users get caught in. — Daniel Case (talk) 07:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Howdy

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Andy! As I live and breathe...

Great to see you're still around (in general), and great to see you around (here) again. The place is still a dump, but it tends to get magically better whenever you spend time here. :)

For my own part I spend most of my time over on Wikisource these days, transcribing old public domain books (well, and helping with the nerdy bits), but I sometimes pop back over. Pure dumb luck it should be the same day you did.

In any case… Good to see you! Xover (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello!!! Yes, I'm probably only dropping in. Back in the late noughties I found being a Wikipedian was interfering with my career a bit, so I tried to roll it back. A couple of years ago I read all the subsequent drama regarding the authorship question (no really, all of it, it took months) and I was pleased to see that yours was always a voice of calm and common sense amidst a sea of anger! It does seem to me that although there is much less aggravation than there was a decade ago, there's also less by way of progress: WP:BARD seems to be dormant and there's not much drive to improve things. I see that in other areas too: I arrived here a few weeks ago to check-out an article on a legal topic which I had set a question on and had been sent a pile of papers to mark. I wanted to know to what extent Wikipedia would have helped the students and the answer was "not-at-all". The article was a mix of things that were wrong and things that were out of date - not because of bad editing, but because of a complete lack of editing. The last human being to have commented on its talk page had done so in 2013. Anyway, no individual can fix all of Wikipedia's issues. But I can take a look at Othello, to see what I can fix, shortly. AndyJones (talk) 13:29, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Short descriptions

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For the long version, see WP:Short description and WP:HOWTOSD. For the reason that they are restricted to just 40 characters, see Wikipedia talk:Short description/Archive 9#Length – 40 or 90 characters??

As well as giving a capsule response to a search, they are also used by {{annotated link}} in wp:see also lists, as way to suggest to readers why they might want to explore further. As you know, some article names are terse and thus only meaningful to readers who already know about a topic. So in the case you raised, this is the effect:

The abbreviated form {{anli}} is more convenient. Welcome back to the time sink. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hamlet

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Perhaps you already know this, but the actual Hamlet quote is "The apparel oft proclaims the man". One of those "Who wrote that? Eh, probably Shakespeare." things. Upstart Crow had fun with that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:56, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, yes. Polonius, if I recall correctly. AndyJones (talk) 13:00, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Kate. Why then, Mr Shakespeare, call the watch, appeal to the Privy Council, cry foul and naughty tricks, for I fear you have been plagiarized.
Shakespeare. Plagiarized? By whom? Who’s stealing my biggies? Name this thieving barnstaple.
Kate. The apostle Matthew!
Shakespeare. The swine – and him a man of God!
Kate. Mr. Shakespeare, ‘He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword’ is in the Bible.
Shakespeare. Really? You’re sure?
Kate. Yes. Matthew, chapter 26 verse 52, although interestingly, he didn’t come up with it either. A form of the phrase first appears in the ancient Greek play Agamemnon by the immortal dramatist Aeschylus.
Shakespeare. Well, if the apostle Matthew can pinch it, then so can I. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:15, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! AndyJones (talk) 09:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I scrolled up a bit and saw you mentioned reading old SAQ discussions. You may enjoy this fairly recent one: Talk:List_of_Shakespeare_authorship_candidates#Recent_WP:SPS_additions. I have a spotty and shallow Shakespeare interest, but this is WP, so I can still create articles like Shakespeare coat of arms and Shakespeare and Star Trek. And Shakespeare's signet ring. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:55, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Yes, I've read all of that talk page conversation now too. (Although not feeling much wiser.) AndyJones (talk) 12:45, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Some passion there, though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Boulton and Park

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Hey Andy, I noticed after posting my own ANI complaint that you had taken an interest in the issue, and thought you might appreciate a bit more context. — Personman (talk) 09:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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