Template talk:Awards table

Hardcoded widths

Can we please remove hardcoded widths? With non-standard fonts one gets awful results: [1]. -- Paul Pogonyshev (talk) 18:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Fixed Gary King (talk) 18:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Colour

Hi! This one is just a suggestion. Is it possible other colours are used for winnings like "Special Award" (for this I usually used Special Award), "Second Place" (Silver maybe), "Third Place" (bronze) because not all competitions are plain awards won and nominated only. Syfuel (talk) 14:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• DONE. I agree and have added optional parameters to Template:Won to set {{won|place=Special Award|color=silver}} or {{won|place=bronze|Third}}, etc. It allows any hues, such as color=blue or color=light green, with text=white for dark colors. For extensive details, see: Template_talk:Won, at topic "New parameters for medal/ribbon colors". -Wikid77 11:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Chage "Nominated work" to smth else?

Hi! Umm...could we change that part to smth else that sounds good, that is, represents well the terms nominated work and nominated artist? 'Cos, surprise surprise, most awards ceremonies include awards for both artists and their works and nominated work just sounds dumb if we talk about an "artist of the year". English isn't my native, so I'm sorry but I can't figure out anything. :D Nominated item? Thanks for your ideas in advance! -- Frous (talk) 16:06, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Not a good template

I'm not sure where it should be used, but it's not useful for actors or singers. When I see it used, a lot of times I'll change it to the (customizable) wikitable. 1) The "Recipient" is the person receiving the award, not the film or album, etc. That would be the "Work". 2) If the table is under a heading saying the name of the award, then the column heading should be "Category", not "Award". 3) Also, those two columns should be switched around. Since the subject is the awards, it should be listed first, followed by what the award was for. --Musdan77 (talk) 02:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Columns and headings

So, why does this table lack a column for the event or sponsor for an award? "Recipient/Nominated work" should really be a configurable heading, such as for tables that list only people or only works. Also, the word Recipient doesn't apply when the nominee did not win, whereas Nominee(s) applies regardless of whether the person won. —Ringbang (talk) 16:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Citation centering

Is there some sort of accessibility or policy reasoning for centering the citation in the fifth case? -- /Alex/₂₁ 20:53, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

If there's no reasoning applicable, then I'll go ahead with removing it. -- /Alex/₂₁ 03:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

I didn't have this page on watch and as you didn't ping me didn't see it. The style should be returned as the TfD resulted in a merge, per your own nomination. That means that the complete template has to be merged and you can't pick and choose what to merge from it, as that wasn't discussed at any point. If you wish to discuses it we can, but you should restore it to the status quo. --Gonnym (talk) 09:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

They were merged. The content has then since been updated; a TFD does not and has never resulted in a complete freeze of any future updates. Your full response is noted, and not a single reply to my initial question. "Status quo" is not "some sort of accessibility or policy reasoning for centering the citation in the fifth case". -- /Alex/₂₁ 10:22, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Award-5 was not completely merged, as you've never actually merged the style and then later removed it, but even if we count that as a merge, then my edit restored it, so per BRD, your latest removal of the same content is out of place. To answer your question, it has nothing to do with accessibility (nor does it have to be). The centering of the column enables easier editing for editors. I've found a lot of award tables where the editors want to center the citation column and then manually have to add style="text-align:center;" to each row. That is just a nuisance. This solves this without requiting any editor input. --Gonnym (talk) 10:30, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

In any case, your edits "completely merged" award 5 into the template, and I then updated the content as necessary. Again, a TFD does not and has never resulted in a complete freeze of any future updates. So, it is a matter of "want", with no actual reasoning behind it; effectively a WP:IWANTIT reasoning. Content should not be styled without a reason. -- /Alex/₂₁ 10:37, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Most style templates are based on a style preference and not on policy or accessibility, such as Template:StoryTeleplay, and that is perfectly fine. There is no policy or guideline that states otherwise and your argument, linked to the same essay you did is basically WP:IDONTLIKEIT. --Gonnym (talk) 15:32, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

The italics of the story/teleplay template is to highlight the separate credits. The centering of the references in this table provide no such "highlighting". Please try another example. -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:53, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

The centering should be restored – the vast majority of Awards table do center the references column, and it should be restored as per Gonnym's reasoning, and should not be removed on the basis of one editor disliking it. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:44, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

There was no reasoning provided. Styling should not be applied simply for aesthetic reasons. Please provide some sort of accessibility, guideline or policy reasoning for centering the citation in the fifth case. -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

How about one editor cannot overrule two editors (and likely more...) on something like this? IOW, the consensus is currently in favor of leaving it. Put another way, WP:STATUSQUO applies: as this is the way the template was before, you need to show consensus is in favor of changing it. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:44, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Don't forget, Wikipedia doesn't "vote"; "one vs. two" is not a credible consensus system. If you want to revert to the status quo, I recommend you do so properly, which is the first edit of the template merge. Shall I revert to such a version? -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:54, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Agree with IJBall and Gonnym. References should be centered. Amaury • 18:08, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Amaury. -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Won/Nominated/Pending colors accessible?

Hi there, I'm new to coloring for accessibility. I'm having a really hard time figuring out whether or not the standard colors are compliant with accessibility standards, and if so, which one(s). I'm curious about templates such as

• {{nom}}
• {{won}}
• {{pending}}

and specifically as to how they relate to each other color-wise (as I believe they're fine from a contrast-with-text standpoint). —Shrinkydinks (talk) 23:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Nominated is showing the same color as pending

Is there a particular reason the nominated template is displaying the same pale yellow color as pending in awards tables atm instead of the usual peach(?) color? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 03:01, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Rowspan note

@Gonnym Have copied the template to sandbox – Special:PermanentLink/1130889914 – and added rowspan to ref column, doesn't seem to have broken anything. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 13:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Seems something was done behind the scenes as it used to break rows after. I don't recall the exact use-case so I've reverted my edit. Hopefully nothing still breaks and I just can't remember in what way. Gonnym (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2023 (UTC)