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== Timelines on country articles ==
== Anarcho-monarchism ==


[[Anarcho-monarchism|This new article]] needs some attention, if someone has time to review the sources for reliability and depth (describing this concept in more than passing mentions). <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 11:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Do we need Timeline sections on [[:Category:Anarchism by country|the "anarchism in X country" articles]]? Since they were added to a few lately ([[special:diff/1240819403|for example]]) I figured we should discuss before continuing. I'm of two minds: Since they should be sourced to remain in the article, I think they're largely duplicative of what is already in the article. I can see the argument that it's a useful navigational aid, but I'd sooner see that as a sidebar in the related section than rehashing all of the events in the article. I think they make the most sense when the dates can otherwise span multiple articles, like [[Timeline of the Spanish Civil War]] or [[Chronology of the Paris Commune]]. Courtesy ping {{ping|AnarchistHistory|p=}} <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 22:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)


:First I'd like to say that I am not a big fan of the timelines, even the ones I've made. If there is a better alternative I am in favour of it.
:@[[User:Czar|Czar]]: After looking at the sources, I've started a [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anarcho-monarchism (2nd nomination)|deletion discussion]]. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:However, my issue is that there is a lot of information about anarchism across Wikipedia that cannot be easily accessed from a central place. So I think if the timelines were to be deleted and those bits of information were slowly added that could be good. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 03:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
::{{Ping|AnarchistHistory}} In terms of a centralised place for links to other articles, we have the [[Outline of anarchism]], the [[:Template:Anarchism sidebar|anarchism sidebar]], [[Template:Anarchism|anarchism bottombar]] and the [[Portal:Anarchism|Anarchism Portal]]. Are these along the lines of what you're looking for? Would you be interested in expanding and maintaining any of these? --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Those are very interesting - I wasn't aware of how good Outline of anarchism in particular is. Since you are both more experienced editors of Wikipedia I will defer to your judgement. I will probably do some work on Outline of anarchism soon. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 09:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
::::If your aim is to improve navigability, which I think is a very important and valuable task to take on, then the outline and our various [[:Category:Anarchism templates|sidebars and bottombars]] are the way to go. I look forward to seeing the improvements you have in store for it! --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 10:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::By the way, I'd recommend reading the [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists|Manual of Style on Lists]] as well. It may prove helpful for developing the outline. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 11:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::Believe it or not, the anarchism portal has 2k views/month. That's not huge compared to many articles, but it's miles and miles ahead of the views by page watchers (which is... 9. not a typo). -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 22:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::I had no idea the portal was that popular! Maybe we should do a wee drive to improve it then, because from the looks of it, it's definitely in need of some TLC. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 13:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:Now that AH has explained their reasoning for including them is for navigability, I'm definitely questioning their inclusion more. So many of them seem to just be repeating information that's already in the article, which makes me question why they're needed at all (wouldn't this just make timelines a [[WP:SEEAGAIN|"see again" section]]?). Sometimes they introduce new information, but then I'm left wondering why that info hasn't been incorporated into the prose rather than shoved into an undetailed list. Also citations are completely absent from many entries in many of the lists, which carries its own set of problems.
:We definitely could be taking more steps to improve navigability and simplify our presentation of information, but I don't think timelines in pre-existing regional history articles are the way to go about it. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 09:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::Do you think we might do well to break out the timeline from [[Outline of anarchism]] into a separate [[Timeline of anarchist history]]? -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 22:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
:::I think if the timeline grows long enough it'd be worth doing a content fork, ditto for the other sections in the outline. We'll see how AH's work on it goes :) --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
::::I'm done with the timeline, but that's only because I'm not including events that I don't think are significant enough to warrant inclusion. If we were to include every time a major book was published or an anarchists was assassinated or executed... I'd be happy to do that but I feel like it could clutter that Outline of anarchism too much. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 13:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::That's good to hear you're being selective! Don't worry about adding things you think aren't vital to know about, we don't want this to be an [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE|indiscriminate collection of information]], just the most important events. :) --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 13:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::Yes, ideally (imo) a timeline should only contain items that are parts of a larger narrative. That is, it should be reasonably apparent to a reader that the items ''link'' to each other in some way, which is a higher bar than simply assembling items that are about similar things or could be categorized in similar ways. They don't need to be so directly linked that each entry follows directly to the next (ie, "this happened, ''and so'' this happened"), but you'd want them to be related enough that you could write a narrative paragraph (or paragraphs) that included all of them without having to reach too far. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 16:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
::{{ec}} I've removed them. Feel free to restore the text from the article history as non-list prose where there are [[WP:RS|reliable secondary sources]].
::I think the best example of a timeline article on Wikipedia is likely [[Timeline of the far future]]. If there is a useful way to display the timeline events, perhaps in a multicolumn format (I'm thinking of a bibliography article on I can't remember), it could be worth splitting the timeline from the outline. For now, the outline article is likely sufficient. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 22:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)


== Recent death: James C. Scott ==
== FAR for Anarky ==


I have nominated [[Anarky]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Anarky/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]]. 🍕[[User:Boneless Pizza!|<span style="background:orange;border-radius:9999px;padding:1px 8px;color:white;"><span style="font-weight:bold">Boneless</span> Pizza!</span>]]🍕 ([[User talk:Boneless Pizza!|🔔]]) 04:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
I missed [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#(Posted) RD: James C. Scott|it]] in [[WP:ITN]] but [[James C. Scott]] died a week ago <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 03:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)


== Interlanguage links between Murder of Björn Söderberg with Björn Söderberg ==
:''[[Seeing Like a State]]'' could really use some work... -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 03:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)


The [[Murder of Björn Söderberg]] contains no interlanguage links to the Swedish language https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_S%C3%B6derberg
== Zapatistas within scope? ==


I tried to do this but get error messages and I'm afraid my knowledge of the more technical aspects of Wikipedia is pretty limited [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 11:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
I was thinking about @[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]]'s [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anarchism/Archive 7#"Anarchist revolutions"|comment from a few months ago]]—{{green|The Zapatistas aren't anarchists and it's frankly offensive to continue claiming them as such. }}—and was wondering: Should our project still continue [[Template:EZLN|the Zapatista articles]] in scope or remove the {{tlx|WikiProject Anarchism}} banner from them?


:@[[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]]: This comes down to Wikidata categorisation. en-wiki's "Murder of Björn Söderberg" is categorised as an event, while the other wiki's "Björn Söderberg" articles are categorised separately as biographies, so they each have different separate wikidata entries. It does seem a little silly on the encyclopedia's end not to have these linked, but wikidata can be fickle about these things sometimes. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 11:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
They've been historically "claimed" by anarchists in some way, but it hasn't fully borne out in the sourcing. I think of the [[autonomist movement]] as being in similar associative circumstances. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 17:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
::This is strange. It should be possible to add it to the redirect - I recall a relatively recent discussion about that. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 16:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Okay, I sorted that out from the other direction (Swedish to English). Edit [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4350634&diff=2237701268&oldid=2149452435 here]. This could be fixed in the English-to-Swedish direction by creating a redirect page on sv-wiki called "Murder of Björn Söderberg" (but in Swedish) and doing the same type of edit, but since my Swedish knowledge is barely more than zero I'll leave that for someone else. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 16:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
::::[[:wikidata:Wikidata:Sitelinks to redirects]] is the Wikidata guidance on when and how to add an enwiki redirect as a sitelink on a Wikidata entry. What asilvering did and suggests sounds right but I've also seen Wikidata entries (perhaps mistakenly) just link the event as a sitelink under the biography's Wikidata entry. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 12:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::I'd say linking the event is a mistake these days, since it throws a bit of a wrench into the metadata. Wikidata metadata gets picked up ''everywhere'', so we should be avoiding cludgy fixes where we can. This ability to add redirects to wikidata items is pretty new, so I'm sure there are loads and loads of articles out there still dependent on the cludgy version. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 17:40, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks for sorting it asilvering! --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 13:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)


== Recent literature (2024 Q3/Q4) ==
:I think they're relevant to the scope of the WikiProject, I just don't think we should be labelling them as "anarchists" in Wikivoice. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 13:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)


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== Grass Roots Books ==
<small>For not-as-recent lit, see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism/Recent literature]]</small>


Requesting assistance finding reliable sources and determining notability for [[Grass Roots Books]], a radical UK bookshop. Discussion here: [[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] [[Talk:Grass Roots Books#Source verification]] <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 13:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
New thread for the rest of 2024 and anything we've [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism/Recent literature|previously missed]]. Feel free to add! <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 13:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)


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== [[WP:AND]] ==


'''Books'''
I've been thinking for a while about our series of "Anarchism and..." articles and how we could rework them. I was motivated to raise a discussion about this after @[[User:Czar|Czar]] unilaterally merged the article on [[propaganda of the deed]], a very well-defined topic, into the article on [[anarchism and violence]], which always seemed [[WP:SYNTH|synthetic in scope]] (it shoves together unrelated text about propaganda of the deed, anarcho-pacifism and random anarchist views on violence, with no clear structure). Per [[WP:AND]], we are supposed to be exercising caution when using "and" titles, yet we have several:
* {{Cite book |last1=Avery-Natale |first1=Edward Anthony |title=Ethics, Politics, and Anarcho-Punk Identifications: Punk and Anarchy in Philadelphia |date=2016 |language=en |isbn=978-1-4985-1999-1 |publisher=Lexington Books |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite book |last1=Ciccariello-Maher |first1=George |editor-last1=Klausen |editor-first1=Jimmy Casas |editor-last2=Martel |editor-first2=James |chapter=An Anarchism That Is Not Anarchism |title=How Not to Be Governed: Readings and Interpretations from a Critical Anarchist Left |page=42 |date=2011 |language=en |isbn=978-0-7391-5036-8 |publisher=Lexington Books |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite book |editor-last1=Davis |editor-first1=Laurence |editor-last2=Kinna |editor-first2=Ruth |title=Anarchism and utopianism |date=2024-06-04 |url=https://www.manchesterhive.com/view/9781526183705/9781526183705.xml |isbn=978-1-5261-8370-5 |publisher=Manchester University Press |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite book |last1=Torres |first1=Anna Elena |title=Horizons Blossom, Borders Vanish: Anarchism and Yiddish Literature |date=2024-02-06 |language=en |isbn=978-0-300-27468-4 |publisher=Yale University Press |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite book |last1=Williams |first1=Brian |title=Anarchism and Social Revolution: An Anarchist Politics of the Transitionary State |date=2023 |doi=10.1007/978-3-031-39462-1 |language=en |isbn=978-3-031-39461-4 |publisher=Springer Nature Switzerland |location=Cham |series=Contributions to Political Science |df=mdy-all }}


'''Articles'''
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* {{Cite journal |last1=Adams |first1=Matthew S. |last2=Hansson |first2=John-Erik |title=Mobilizing William Godwin, the 'Father of British Anarchism': History, Strategy, and the Intellectual Cultures of Post-war British Anarchism |journal=Modern Intellectual History |pages=1–26 |date=2024-03-13 |doi-access=free |language=en |doi=10.1017/S1479244323000239 |issn=1479-2443 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and capitalism]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Andrews |first1=Tom |title=A Devilish Kind of Courage: anarchists, aliens, and the Siege of Sidney Street |journal=Policing and Society |volume=34 |issue=5 |pages=485–487 |date=2024-05-27 |url=https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10439463.2024.2317956 |doi=10.1080/10439463.2024.2317956 |issn=1043-9463 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and education]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Beswick |first1=Spencer |title='To Repulse the State from Our Uteri': Anarcha-feminism, Reproductive Freedom, and Dual Power |journal=Radical History Review |volume=2024 |issue=148 |pages=90–106 |date=2024 |doi=10.1215/01636545-10846837 |issn=0163-6545 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and Esperanto]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Burke |first1=Jon |title=Qalang Smangus: Successful Aboriginal Christian Anarchism in Taiwan |journal=[[Anarchist Studies]] |volume=32 |issue=1 |pages=43–69 |date=2024 |language=en |doi=10.3898/AS.32.1.02 |issn=2633-8270 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and Friedrich Nietzsche]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Castleton |first1=Edward |title=An anarchist take on royalty: Pierre-Joseph Proudhon’s evolving assessment of post-revolutionary monarchy, 1839–64. Part I |journal=History of European Ideas |pages=1–22 |date=2024 |doi=10.1080/01916599.2024.2332841 |issn=0191-6599 |via=[[Taylor & Francis]] |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and issues related to love and sex]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Christoyannopoulos |first1=Alexandre |author-link=Alexandre Christoyannopoulos |title=Mapping the landscape between pacifism and anarchism: Accusations, rejoinders, and mutual resonances |journal=The British Journal of Politics and International Relations |doi-access=free |date=2024-06-09 |language=en |doi=10.1177/13691481241257806 |issn=1369-1481 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and nationalism]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Desjardins |first1=Sophie |last2=Giroux |first2=Annabelle |last3=Gamache |first3=Dominick |title=Comparison of personality traits of two anti-oppression groups: Vegans and anarchists |journal=Analyses of Social Issues and Public Policy |volume=24 |issue=2 |pages=431–454 |date=2024 |language=en |doi=10.1111/asap.12385 |issn=1530-2415 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and religion]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Ferretti |first1=Federico |title=For an Anarchist Decolonial Agenda: New Perspectives on Anarchism, Marronage, and Indigeneity from Brazil/Pindorama |journal=Antipode |pages=1–24 |date=2024 |url=https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/anti.13068 |language=en |doi=10.1111/anti.13068 |issn=1467-8330 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and the arts]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Jacobs |first1=Keith |title=The writings of Colin Ward and the legacy of anarchism for housing studies |journal=Housing Studies |pages=1–18 |date=2024 |doi=10.1080/02673037.2024.2359411 |issn=0267-3037 |df=mdy-all }}
*[[Anarchism and violence]]
* {{Cite journal |last1=Hill |first1=Helena |title=Punk music and cinnamon buns. From everyday resistance to contentious politics in a 1980s Swedish autonomous center |journal=Journal of Political Ideologies |pages=1–23 |date=2024 |doi=10.1080/13569317.2024.2369308 |issn=1356-9317 |via=[[Taylor & Francis]] |df=mdy-all }}
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* {{Cite journal |last1=Laursen |first1=Ole Birk |title=Agnes Smedley and the Indian anarchists in Weimar Berlin |journal=South Asian History and Culture |pages=1–14 |date=2024 |doi=10.1080/19472498.2024.2371689 |issn=1947-2498 |via=[[Taylor & Francis]] |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite journal |last1=Marone |first1=Francesco |title=‘I’m not a martyr, I’m a terrorist’: the Cospito affair and the rejection of martyrdom in insurrectionary anarchism |journal=Politics, Religion & Ideology |pages=1–23 |date=2024 |doi=10.1080/21567689.2024.2379351 |issn=2156-7689 |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite book |last1=Skoble |first1=Aeon J. |editor-last1=Meyer |editor-first1=Matthew P. |editor-last2=Koepsell |editor-first2=David |chapter=Post‐apocalyptic Anarchism in <i>Mad Max</i> |title=Mad Max and Philosophy |pages=1–10 |date=2024-04-12 |language=en |isbn=978-1-119-87048-7 |publisher=Wiley |chapter-url=https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781119870517.ch1 |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite journal |last1=Sørensen |first1=Majken Jul |last2=Martin |first2=Brian |title=Beyond nonviolent regime change: Anarchist insights |journal=[[Peace & Change]] |volume=49 |issue=2 |pages=124–139 |date=2024 |language=en |doi=10.1111/pech.12663 |issn=1468-0130 |df=mdy-all }}


'''Book/film reviews'''
This makes anarchism rather unique in terms of "and" articles, as most ideologies have few if any. Fascism only has one ([[Fascism and ideology]]), socialism only has one ([[Socialism and LGBT rights]]), communism only has one ([[Communism and LGBT rights]]), Marxism only has two ([[Marxism and religion]]; [[Marxism and Keynesian economics]]), etc.
* {{Cite journal |last1=Prasse‐Freeman |first1=Elliott |title=An Anarchist Present in Lowland Southeast Asia? (Revs. of Outsourcing the Polity and Rethinking Community in Myanmar) |journal=PoLAR: Political and Legal Anthropology Review |volume=46 |issue=2 |date=2023 |language=en |doi=10.1111/plar.12552 |issn=1555-2934 |df=mdy-all }}
* {{Cite journal |last1=Williams |first1=Dana |title=Rev. of Debating Anarchism: A History of Action, Ideas, and Movements: by Mike Finn |journal=Social Movement Studies |volume=23 |issue=2 |pages=262–264 |date=2024-03-03 |url=https://doi.org/10.1080/14742837.2023.2204224 |doi=10.1080/14742837.2023.2204224 |issn=1474-2837 |via=[[Taylor & Francis]] |df=mdy-all }}


'''Journals and special issues'''
Looking at our "anarchism and..." articles, they all seem very randomly cobbled together, with no rhyme or reason to their structure. Their [[WP:SCOPE|scope]] is almost inherently broken from the outset, as the "and" opens the door for literally any passing anarchist views on a subject to be inserted in, rather than focusing on sources specifically about anarchism's connection to a certain subject. It could even be argued that it messes with neutrality.


* ''Anarchist Developments in Cultural Studies'' [https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/adcs/issue/view/1602 "Anarchism and Film: New Perspectives"] (May 2024), vol. 2024, no. 1 {{ISSN|1923-5615}}
So I wanted to bring up a discussion about these articles. What can we do about them? Are there possible improvements that could be made to them? Should we retitle them to something more well-defined? Or should some of them be deleted or merged/redirected to other articles? From my view, the only one of these I know I'd vote keep on is "anarchism and education", as I know of several sources specifically about it (although it might be better titled "Anarchist education" or something). --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
* ''History of European Ideas'' [https://www.tandfonline.com/action/doSearch?AllField=Sophie+Scott-Brown%E2%80%99s+Colin+Ward+and+the+art+of+everyday+anarchy&SeriesKey=rhei20 symposium on Sophie Scott-Brown’s ''Colin Ward and the Art of Everyday Anarchy'']


{{Refend}}
:{{Ping|gobonobo|asilvering}} Pinging you two, as I notice you have discussed the "anarchism and the arts" article above. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
::I think most of these would survive [[WP:AFD|a deletion discussion]] because they're topics that are frequently discussed in relation with anarchism. I see them as [[WP:SS|summary style]] splits from the [[anarchism]] and former [[issues in anarchism]] overview topics. Though they might need some work to get in line with how summary style should work, it [[WP:NOTCLEANUP|doesn't warrant deletion]]. This said, some of these can definitely be further paraphrased and/or merged since they were written and are mostly unchanged from a bygone era of Wikipedia. Personally, I always figured we'd get to these after repairing the main ideology and country articles. Happy to discuss any of these in isolation, which I believe would be most productive. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 13:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm with czar here. It's a bit funny to me that these stand out as "suspect" topics on wikipedia, since these are, well, exactly the kind of topics you'd expect to see in an actual print encyclopedia! Of course, actual print encyclopedias tend to be written by expert contributors under the aegis of an editorial board, so there's that. I hear you, Grnrchst, about {{tq|opens the door for literally any passing anarchist views on a subject to be inserted in}} - but I don't think this is much different from how every article used to have "in pop culture" shoved into the bottom. That is to say, I think that kind of cruft is just an artifact of how wikipedia is a work in progress, and the cure is simply to write a better article. Easier said than done but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.
:::imo, [[Anarchism and religion]] is particularly underdeveloped. We might want to break it into that and an [[Anarchism and atheism]] article (maybe renaming the first [[Religious anarchism]] or something, which I see we currently have as a redirect). At least for me, working with various [[Paris Commune]] articles, I've really noticed the lack of context on why these anarchists were so fervently anti-religious. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 19:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
::::These are all good points, I'll put a pin in this for now. Thanks for the responses :) --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)


{{hr}} <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 13:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
== Timelines on country articles ==


== Category:Spanish anarchists ==
Do we need Timeline sections on [[:Category:Anarchism by country|the "anarchism in X country" articles]]? Since they were added to a few lately ([[special:diff/1240819403|for example]]) I figured we should discuss before continuing. I'm of two minds: Since they should be sourced to remain in the article, I think they're largely duplicative of what is already in the article. I can see the argument that it's a useful navigational aid, but I'd sooner see that as a sidebar in the related section than rehashing all of the events in the article. I think they make the most sense when the dates can otherwise span multiple articles, like [[Timeline of the Spanish Civil War]] or [[Chronology of the Paris Commune]]. Courtesy ping {{ping|AnarchistHistory|p=}} <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 22:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)


This category might need some TLC but I wanted to ask around. Some thoughts:
:First I'd like to say that I am not a big fan of the timelines, even the ones I've made. If there is a better alternative I am in favour of it.

:However, my issue is that there is a lot of information about anarchism across Wikipedia that cannot be easily accessed from a central place. So I think if the timelines were to be deleted and those bits of information were slowly added that could be good. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 03:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
# Remove Spanish anarcho-syndicalists and put everything in Spanish anarchists?
::{{Ping|AnarchistHistory}} In terms of a centralised place for links to other articles, we have the [[Outline of anarchism]], the [[:Template:Anarchism sidebar|anarchism sidebar]], [[Template:Anarchism|anarchism bottombar]] and the [[Portal:Anarchism|Anarchism Portal]]. Are these along the lines of what you're looking for? Would you be interested in expanding and maintaining any of these? --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
# Rename Anarchists from Catalonia to Catalan anarchists?
:::Those are very interesting - I wasn't aware of how good Outline of anarchism in particular is. Since you are both more experienced editors of Wikipedia I will defer to your judgement. I will probably do some work on Outline of anarchism soon. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 09:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
# Remove anarchists from the CNT members category, leaving the CNT members category for people not identified as anarchists who were in the CNT? Similar to how the FAUD in German anarchists and USI in Italian anarchists works.
::::If your aim is to improve navigability, which I think is a very important and valuable task to take on, then the outline and our various [[:Category:Anarchism templates|sidebars and bottombars]] are the way to go. I look forward to seeing the improvements you have in store for it! --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 10:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
# Potentially add a new category for Basque anarchists?
:::::By the way, I'd recommend reading the [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists|Manual of Style on Lists]] as well. It may prove helpful for developing the outline. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 11:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

:::::Believe it or not, the anarchism portal has 2k views/month. That's not huge compared to many articles, but it's miles and miles ahead of the views by page watchers (which is... 9. not a typo). -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 22:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Link: [[:Category:Spanish anarchists]] [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 14:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::I had no idea the portal was that popular! Maybe we should do a wee drive to improve it then, because from the looks of it, it's definitely in need of some TLC. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 13:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

:Now that AH has explained their reasoning for including them is for navigability, I'm definitely questioning their inclusion more. So many of them seem to just be repeating information that's already in the article, which makes me question why they're needed at all (wouldn't this just make timelines a [[WP:SEEAGAIN|"see again" section]]?). Sometimes they introduce new information, but then I'm left wondering why that info hasn't been incorporated into the prose rather than shoved into an undetailed list. Also citations are completely absent from many entries in many of the lists, which carries its own set of problems.
:#This category definitely seems redundant. With the exception of Farga i Pellicer and Saperas Mirò, all the entries were members of the CNT. Feel free to submit it as a [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|category for discussion]].
:We definitely could be taking more steps to improve navigability and simplify our presentation of information, but I don't think timelines in pre-existing regional history articles are the way to go about it. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 09:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:#See [[:Category:Politicians from Catalonia|Category:Politicians from Catalonia]]; the "from Catalonia" thing is standardised as Catalonia is not (yet) a sovereign state.
::Do you think we might do well to break out the timeline from [[Outline of anarchism]] into a separate [[Timeline of anarchist history]]? -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 22:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
:#I would oppose this, the CNT was an enormous organisation (and is still pretty big!) and its membership is independently notable as a category.
:::I think if the timeline grows long enough it'd be worth doing a content fork, ditto for the other sections in the outline. We'll see how AH's work on it goes :) --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 08:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:#I'd go further and say we should have categories for each of the [[autonomous communities of Spain]], following the lead of [[:es:Categoría:Anarquistas de España por comunidad autónoma|the Spanish Wikipedia's categories]]. This would help with the overlap between the Spanish anarchists and CNT members categories, as we could better sort between anarchists of different regions.
::::I'm done with the timeline, but that's only because I'm not including events that I don't think are significant enough to warrant inclusion. If we were to include every time a major book was published or an anarchists was assassinated or executed... I'd be happy to do that but I feel like it could clutter that Outline of anarchism too much. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 13:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::That's good to hear you're being selective! Don't worry about adding things you think aren't vital to know about, we don't want this to be an [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE|indiscriminate collection of information]], just the most important events. :) --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 13:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:--[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 15:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
::For #3, this strikes me as more likely to be a problem with the Germany/FAUD and Italian/USI categories than with Spanish/CNT. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 15:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{ec}} I've removed them. Feel free to restore the text from the article history as non-list prose where there are [[WP:RS|reliable secondary sources]].
::@[[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]]: Hey I see you've created the category for Basque anarchists, would you be interested in making categories for the other [[Nationalities and regions of Spain|nationalities of Spain]] as well? --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 14:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::I think the best example of a timeline article on Wikipedia is likely [[Timeline of the far future]]. If there is a useful way to display the timeline events, perhaps in a multicolumn format (I'm thinking of a bibliography article on I can't remember), it could be worth splitting the timeline from the outline. For now, the outline article is likely sufficient. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 22:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
:::My only issue is that nationalities outside of Catalan and Basque are generally not mentioned in the specific biographies of Spanish anarchists. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 17:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|AnarchistHistory}} I'd be interested to know what sources you're looking at, as it's quite common to find references for other nationalities. E.g. [[Joaquín Ascaso]] as Aragonese;[https://www.regeneracionlibertaria.org/2015/04/07/guerra-y-revolucion-joaquin-ascaso-el-primer-presidente-aragones-y-el-consejo-de-aragon/] [[José Pellicer Gandía]] as Valencian;[https://www.katesharpleylibrary.net/g79dfs] [[Francisco Jordán]] as Andalusian;[https://www.eduardomontagut.es/mis-articulos/historia/item/571-los-socialistas-y-la-detenci%C3%B3n-del-anarcosindicalista-francisco-jord%C3%A1n.html] and [[Secundino Delgado]] as Canarian.[https://dbe.rah.es/biografias/70724/secundino-delgado-rodriguez] I understand that the Catalans and Basques are the best known nationalities outside of Spain, but I don't think it's the case that other nationalities aren't mentioned. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 15:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::This might just be my own ignorance of Spain's nationalities then. I can begin work :)
:::::Following up on [[:Category: Spanish anarcho-syndicalists]], I have no idea how to submit it as a category of discussion. [[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]] ([[User talk:AnarchistHistory|talk]]) 16:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:AnarchistHistory|AnarchistHistory]]: I've opened a [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12|merge discussion]]. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 16:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green/Meetup/7|Women in Green's 7th edit-a-thon]] ==

Hey all. Next month, October 2024, Women in Green is hosting the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green/Meetup/7|second edition of our Around the World in 31 Days edit-a-thon]]. The aim is to write and review good articles about women from at least 31 different countries. In case anyone else here is interested, I thought I'd repost another list of anarchist women from around the world, this time based on the highest number of interwiki links:
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*{{flagicon|Argentina}} [[Herminia Brumana]]
*{{flagicon|Australia}} [[Germaine Greer]]
*{{flagicon|Austria}} [[Marie Ganz]]
*{{flagicon|Belarus}} [[Faina Stavskaya]]
*{{flagicon|Belgium}} [[Alexandra David-Néel]]
*{{flagicon|Bolivia}} [[María Galindo]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[Maria Lacerda de Moura]]
*{{flagicon|Canada}} [[Ann Hansen]]
*{{flagicon|Chile}} [[Teresa Wilms Montt]]
*{{flagicon|China}} [[He Zhen (anarchist)|He Zhen]]
*{{flagicon|Colombia}} [[Blanca de Moncaleano]]
*{{flagicon|Czechia}} [[Luisa Landová-Štychová]]
*{{flagicon|Ecuador}} [[Piedad Moscoso]]
*{{flagicon|England}} [[Nancy Cunard]]
*{{flagicon|France}} [[Louise Michel]]
*{{flagicon|Germany}} [[Milly Witkop]]
*{{flagicon|Greece}} [[Katerina Gogou]]
*{{flagicon|Hungary}} [[Ilona Duczyńska]]
*{{flagicon|Iceland}} [[Birgitta Jónsdóttir]]
*{{flagicon|Ireland}} [[Gertrude Kelly]]
*{{Flagicon|Israel}} [[Paula Ben-Gurion]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Anna Kuliscioff]]
*{{flagicon|Japan}} [[Hiratsuka Raichō]]
*{{flagicon|Latvia}} [[Louise Berger]]
*{{flagicon|Mexico}} [[Teresa Villarreal]]
*{{flagicon|Netherlands}} [[Clara Wichmann]]
*{{flagicon|New Zealand}} [[Lola Ridge]]
*{{flagicon|Peru}} [[Miguelina Acosta Cárdenas]]
*{{flagicon|Poland}} [[Ewa Majewska]]
*{{flagicon|Portugal}} [[Deolinda Lopes Vieira]]
*{{flagicon|Puerto Rico}} [[Luisa Capetillo]]
*{{flagicon|Russia}} [[Anastasia Baburova]]
*{{Flagicon|Scotland}} [[Ethel MacDonald]]
*{{flagicon|Spain}} [[Federica Montseny]]
*{{flagicon|Sudan}} [[Layla AbdelRahim]]
*{{flagicon|Sweden}} [[Elise Ottesen-Jensen]]
*{{flagicon|Switzerland}} [[Victorine Brocher]]
*{{flagicon|Taiwan}} [[Audrey Tang]]
*{{flagicon|Tunisia}} [[Amina Tyler]]
*{{flagicon|Ukraine}} [[Maria Nikiforova]]
*{{flagicon|United States}} [[Dorothy Day]]
*{{flagicon|Uruguay}} [[Luce Fabbri]]
{{Div col end}}


If you fancy improving one of these articles, or even some others, I hope you take the opportunity to do so. You'll be able to find me coordinating the edit-a-thon and can ask any questions you have over at the event talk page. --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== Good article reassessment for [[Batman: Anarky]] ==
[[Batman: Anarky]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Batman: Anarky/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 02:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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Cleanup drive

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Here is the full list of anarchism articles in need of cleanup. Below is a subset for focus during the cleanup drive. Strike out completed items with {{s}} and we'll add more sections as we go.

finished

Biographies of living persons (10)

These articles have any cleanup tag but are high priority because we hold biographies on living people to a higher standard

Unsourced passages need footnotes {{citation needed}} (69)

Search for the passages tagged with {{citation needed}} and either (a) add a source and remove the tag, or (b) remove the passage and the tag if it cannot be verified

Factual verification needed (12)

Search for the passages tagged with {{verify source}} or {{vn}}, which indicate that another editor has requested that our article content is verifiable in the citation. If verified, say so in your edit summary and remove the tag. If not verified, either bring the discrepancy to the talk page or resolve the discrepancy yourself by rephrasing or removing content.

Cites unreliable sources (26)

Search for the passages tagged with {{Better source}}, {{Obsolete source}}, {{Primary sources}}, {{Unreliable sources}}, {{Verify credibility}}, {{Third-party}}, {{Third-party-inline}}, or {{Circular reference}}. This could be, for instance, a primary source affiliated with an anarchist movement or a reference without editorial distance from the subject. Either (a) replace with a reliable, secondary, independent source and remove the tag, or (b) remove the passage and the tag if no reliable reference exists.

Our cleanup backlog has grown since the last drive, so thought we could kickoff another push for the month of May. There are currently 228 articles tagged in total with 386 tagged issues. Can we get it down to zero?

For a place to start, I thought biographies of living people (BLPs) and articles in need of citations would be good. To cross off finished items from the list, there is a link above to edit the section (so as not to bother watchers of this page). Open to any other ideas here as well to make it interesting. Perhaps we should set up a mailing list for editors who have participated in the project previously?

If this is your first time participating in a cleanup drive on Wikipedia, (1) you're invited to be bold and try your best to resolve cleanup issues, and (2) if you have any questions or need a hand, please respond below and someone will help! czar 14:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oof, there is a lot of work to do on some of these articles. Some should be simple enough to fix but damn, others have much deeper problems that I'm not sure simply addressing the CN tags will solve. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Addressing the {{citation needed}} tags is enough to remove it from this list but if an article needs more support, feel free to bring it to discussion so others can chip in too. czar 03:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we can't fix everything all at once. It's a work in progress. As much as I'd like to fix everything everywhere, as long as we don't have falsehoods or policy violations hanging around... it's ok that some things are a bit crap. -- asilvering (talk) 03:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Czar: Hey, we seem to have gone way over the limit of templates on one page, which I think has come down to both the cleanup drive transclusion and the recent literature transclusion having introduced a lot more than the page can handle. I manually archived a section and removed a bunch of templates from another, but this problem still persists. I think we may need to consider that striking every resolved entry, rather than simply removing it from the list, is causing problems of its own. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok no, after doing a bunch of archivals and changes, then just fiddling around with removing random hings, I identified the newly-added "Recent stubs" template as the source of the problem. I have temporarily removed it, just so the entire page doesn't break. We need to figure out what went wrong with it before we add it back in. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is a backlog drive for sourcing unsourced statements starting tomorrow, which can be a good reason for finishing our above {{citation needed}} list. :)
Also nice work on sourcing List of self-managed social centers, @Graveyardpansy! czar 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh we're close to finishing this one off! Don't know how much time I can spend on this area this month, as my attentions are focused on the Women in Green edit-a-thon, but I hope we'll be able to address these last few before the end of the unsourced statements drive. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 09:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your citations on Ungdomshuset, @Replayful! czar 12:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I just thought I could help since I know Danish and could get Danish sources. There's still room for improvement in the article :) //Replayful (talk | contribs) 14:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just finished the last few articles needing citations and/or footnotes. I'll let the cleanup listing reset this week and add some new targets. I think this week will be a big drop in cleanup issue count and we're already halfway (54%) to goal. czar 00:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We're two thirds (67%) of our way to goal! New cleanup tags added for your consideration above: Factual verification needed and Unreliable source cited. Take a peek and if you struggle with any article, bring it here for discussion as you're likely not alone. czar 04:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has unfortunately resulted in quite a few articles being stubbified, which has reversed some of the progress we made with the stub expansion drive. So if anyone has the time and energy to expand some of these stubs, that'd be appreciated. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We're 85% to goal! Very close to a historical low number of cleanup tasks (56 remain and low is 53, from the 2019 drive). I'll pick up some expansions again once we're down to zero. The way I see it, those articles were stubs but just weren't classified correctly, beneath the cleanup tags and unverified material. czar 12:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Down to just a handful now! czar 04:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing those articles as already stubs is a good way of looking at it. Amazing to see the cleanup backlog down so low! There's only a dozen or so left, which has put it down to a fraction of a percentage point! Excellent work on getting through this, to you and everyone else involved. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Challenges

There are a few cleanups that look particularly challenging and I thought I'd list them here for consideration separate from the list above, in case someone is interested in a meatier project. czar 16:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC) [reply]

resolved

Asterisks for discussions that still have further possible follow-up/expansion despite the cleanup being addressed

100%

(386/386)

🎊🎊 100%! We're officially at zero cleanup items—the first time in three cleanup drives since 2017, with over 2200 issues addressed. Since 2017, our scope has tripled to nearly 3000 articles on the strength of new translations, new articles, and revisiting and retagging decades-old articles up to today's standards. Some of these final cleanup items were pretty dense challenges looming for over seven years. Congrats to all contributors and looking forward to the next community drive. czar 17:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Viscaaaa! Amazing work everyone. --Grnrchst (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Huzzah! Congrats to everyone who's been banging away at this for months and months. I hope I am finally forgiven for adding all those anarchist biographies a few years back, haha. -- asilvering (talk) 23:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent literature (2024 Q1/Q2)

For not-as-recent lit, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism/Recent literature

New thread for 2024 and anything we've previously missed. Feel free to add! czar 03:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Books

  • Johnson, Steven (May 14, 2024). The Infernal Machine: A True Story of Dynamite, Terror, and the Rise of the Modern Detective. New York: Crown. ISBN 978-0-593-44395-8.

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Book/film reviews

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czar 03:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timelines on country articles

Do we need Timeline sections on the "anarchism in X country" articles? Since they were added to a few lately (for example) I figured we should discuss before continuing. I'm of two minds: Since they should be sourced to remain in the article, I think they're largely duplicative of what is already in the article. I can see the argument that it's a useful navigational aid, but I'd sooner see that as a sidebar in the related section than rehashing all of the events in the article. I think they make the most sense when the dates can otherwise span multiple articles, like Timeline of the Spanish Civil War or Chronology of the Paris Commune. Courtesy ping @AnarchistHistory czar 22:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First I'd like to say that I am not a big fan of the timelines, even the ones I've made. If there is a better alternative I am in favour of it.
However, my issue is that there is a lot of information about anarchism across Wikipedia that cannot be easily accessed from a central place. So I think if the timelines were to be deleted and those bits of information were slowly added that could be good. AnarchistHistory (talk) 03:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AnarchistHistory: In terms of a centralised place for links to other articles, we have the Outline of anarchism, the anarchism sidebar, anarchism bottombar and the Anarchism Portal. Are these along the lines of what you're looking for? Would you be interested in expanding and maintaining any of these? --Grnrchst (talk) 08:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those are very interesting - I wasn't aware of how good Outline of anarchism in particular is. Since you are both more experienced editors of Wikipedia I will defer to your judgement. I will probably do some work on Outline of anarchism soon. AnarchistHistory (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If your aim is to improve navigability, which I think is a very important and valuable task to take on, then the outline and our various sidebars and bottombars are the way to go. I look forward to seeing the improvements you have in store for it! --Grnrchst (talk) 10:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I'd recommend reading the Manual of Style on Lists as well. It may prove helpful for developing the outline. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Believe it or not, the anarchism portal has 2k views/month. That's not huge compared to many articles, but it's miles and miles ahead of the views by page watchers (which is... 9. not a typo). -- asilvering (talk) 22:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had no idea the portal was that popular! Maybe we should do a wee drive to improve it then, because from the looks of it, it's definitely in need of some TLC. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now that AH has explained their reasoning for including them is for navigability, I'm definitely questioning their inclusion more. So many of them seem to just be repeating information that's already in the article, which makes me question why they're needed at all (wouldn't this just make timelines a "see again" section?). Sometimes they introduce new information, but then I'm left wondering why that info hasn't been incorporated into the prose rather than shoved into an undetailed list. Also citations are completely absent from many entries in many of the lists, which carries its own set of problems.
We definitely could be taking more steps to improve navigability and simplify our presentation of information, but I don't think timelines in pre-existing regional history articles are the way to go about it. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think we might do well to break out the timeline from Outline of anarchism into a separate Timeline of anarchist history? -- asilvering (talk) 22:13, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think if the timeline grows long enough it'd be worth doing a content fork, ditto for the other sections in the outline. We'll see how AH's work on it goes :) --Grnrchst (talk) 08:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm done with the timeline, but that's only because I'm not including events that I don't think are significant enough to warrant inclusion. If we were to include every time a major book was published or an anarchists was assassinated or executed... I'd be happy to do that but I feel like it could clutter that Outline of anarchism too much. AnarchistHistory (talk) 13:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's good to hear you're being selective! Don't worry about adding things you think aren't vital to know about, we don't want this to be an indiscriminate collection of information, just the most important events. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 13:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, ideally (imo) a timeline should only contain items that are parts of a larger narrative. That is, it should be reasonably apparent to a reader that the items link to each other in some way, which is a higher bar than simply assembling items that are about similar things or could be categorized in similar ways. They don't need to be so directly linked that each entry follows directly to the next (ie, "this happened, and so this happened"), but you'd want them to be related enough that you could write a narrative paragraph (or paragraphs) that included all of them without having to reach too far. -- asilvering (talk) 16:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I've removed them. Feel free to restore the text from the article history as non-list prose where there are reliable secondary sources.
I think the best example of a timeline article on Wikipedia is likely Timeline of the far future. If there is a useful way to display the timeline events, perhaps in a multicolumn format (I'm thinking of a bibliography article on I can't remember), it could be worth splitting the timeline from the outline. For now, the outline article is likely sufficient. czar 22:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Murder of Björn Söderberg contains no interlanguage links to the Swedish language https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_S%C3%B6derberg

I tried to do this but get error messages and I'm afraid my knowledge of the more technical aspects of Wikipedia is pretty limited AnarchistHistory (talk) 11:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AnarchistHistory: This comes down to Wikidata categorisation. en-wiki's "Murder of Björn Söderberg" is categorised as an event, while the other wiki's "Björn Söderberg" articles are categorised separately as biographies, so they each have different separate wikidata entries. It does seem a little silly on the encyclopedia's end not to have these linked, but wikidata can be fickle about these things sometimes. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is strange. It should be possible to add it to the redirect - I recall a relatively recent discussion about that. -- asilvering (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I sorted that out from the other direction (Swedish to English). Edit here. This could be fixed in the English-to-Swedish direction by creating a redirect page on sv-wiki called "Murder of Björn Söderberg" (but in Swedish) and doing the same type of edit, but since my Swedish knowledge is barely more than zero I'll leave that for someone else. -- asilvering (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
wikidata:Wikidata:Sitelinks to redirects is the Wikidata guidance on when and how to add an enwiki redirect as a sitelink on a Wikidata entry. What asilvering did and suggests sounds right but I've also seen Wikidata entries (perhaps mistakenly) just link the event as a sitelink under the biography's Wikidata entry. czar 12:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say linking the event is a mistake these days, since it throws a bit of a wrench into the metadata. Wikidata metadata gets picked up everywhere, so we should be avoiding cludgy fixes where we can. This ability to add redirects to wikidata items is pretty new, so I'm sure there are loads and loads of articles out there still dependent on the cludgy version. -- asilvering (talk) 17:40, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for sorting it asilvering! --Grnrchst (talk) 13:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent literature (2024 Q3/Q4)

For not-as-recent lit, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism/Recent literature

New thread for the rest of 2024 and anything we've previously missed. Feel free to add! czar 13:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Books

  • Avery-Natale, Edward Anthony (2016). Ethics, Politics, and Anarcho-Punk Identifications: Punk and Anarchy in Philadelphia. Lexington Books. ISBN 978-1-4985-1999-1.
  • Ciccariello-Maher, George (2011). "An Anarchism That Is Not Anarchism". In Klausen, Jimmy Casas; Martel, James (eds.). How Not to Be Governed: Readings and Interpretations from a Critical Anarchist Left. Lexington Books. p. 42. ISBN 978-0-7391-5036-8.
  • Davis, Laurence; Kinna, Ruth, eds. (June 4, 2024). Anarchism and utopianism. Manchester University Press. ISBN 978-1-5261-8370-5.
  • Torres, Anna Elena (February 6, 2024). Horizons Blossom, Borders Vanish: Anarchism and Yiddish Literature. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-27468-4.
  • Williams, Brian (2023). Anarchism and Social Revolution: An Anarchist Politics of the Transitionary State. Contributions to Political Science. Cham: Springer Nature Switzerland. doi:10.1007/978-3-031-39462-1. ISBN 978-3-031-39461-4.

Articles

Book/film reviews

Journals and special issues


czar 13:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish anarchists

This category might need some TLC but I wanted to ask around. Some thoughts:

  1. Remove Spanish anarcho-syndicalists and put everything in Spanish anarchists?
  2. Rename Anarchists from Catalonia to Catalan anarchists?
  3. Remove anarchists from the CNT members category, leaving the CNT members category for people not identified as anarchists who were in the CNT? Similar to how the FAUD in German anarchists and USI in Italian anarchists works.
  4. Potentially add a new category for Basque anarchists?

Link: Category:Spanish anarchists AnarchistHistory (talk) 14:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. This category definitely seems redundant. With the exception of Farga i Pellicer and Saperas Mirò, all the entries were members of the CNT. Feel free to submit it as a category for discussion.
  2. See Category:Politicians from Catalonia; the "from Catalonia" thing is standardised as Catalonia is not (yet) a sovereign state.
  3. I would oppose this, the CNT was an enormous organisation (and is still pretty big!) and its membership is independently notable as a category.
  4. I'd go further and say we should have categories for each of the autonomous communities of Spain, following the lead of the Spanish Wikipedia's categories. This would help with the overlap between the Spanish anarchists and CNT members categories, as we could better sort between anarchists of different regions.
--Grnrchst (talk) 15:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For #3, this strikes me as more likely to be a problem with the Germany/FAUD and Italian/USI categories than with Spanish/CNT. -- asilvering (talk) 15:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AnarchistHistory: Hey I see you've created the category for Basque anarchists, would you be interested in making categories for the other nationalities of Spain as well? --Grnrchst (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My only issue is that nationalities outside of Catalan and Basque are generally not mentioned in the specific biographies of Spanish anarchists. AnarchistHistory (talk) 17:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AnarchistHistory: I'd be interested to know what sources you're looking at, as it's quite common to find references for other nationalities. E.g. Joaquín Ascaso as Aragonese;[1] José Pellicer Gandía as Valencian;[2] Francisco Jordán as Andalusian;[3] and Secundino Delgado as Canarian.[4] I understand that the Catalans and Basques are the best known nationalities outside of Spain, but I don't think it's the case that other nationalities aren't mentioned. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This might just be my own ignorance of Spain's nationalities then. I can begin work :)
Following up on Category: Spanish anarcho-syndicalists, I have no idea how to submit it as a category of discussion. AnarchistHistory (talk) 16:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AnarchistHistory: I've opened a merge discussion. --Grnrchst (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all. Next month, October 2024, Women in Green is hosting the second edition of our Around the World in 31 Days edit-a-thon. The aim is to write and review good articles about women from at least 31 different countries. In case anyone else here is interested, I thought I'd repost another list of anarchist women from around the world, this time based on the highest number of interwiki links:

If you fancy improving one of these articles, or even some others, I hope you take the opportunity to do so. You'll be able to find me coordinating the edit-a-thon and can ask any questions you have over at the event talk page. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]