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==Re; [[Baseball card]]== |
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Do you understand what a commercial link is or not? Just becasuse it is a .com does not mean it is a commercial site! These are non-commercial links [http://www.iamdanaustin.com/opc/#history] [http://www.oldbaseball.com/more_checklists.html] to card collecting clubs. [[User:TBTA|TBTA]] 19:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Vandalism warning == |
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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to [[:Baseball card]], you will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. <!-- Template:Test3-n (Third level warning) --> [[User:TBTA|TBTA]] 22:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== WP:OWN == |
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Please see [[WP:OWN]] re [[Baseball card]]. [[User:TBTA|TBTA]] 23:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to [[:Baseball card]], you will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. <!-- Template:Test3-n (Third level warning) --> [[User:TBTA|TBTA]] 23:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Baseball: warning == |
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Please see the message on my talk page addressed to you and TBTA [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Splash&diff=prev&oldid=75192482]. You're both on the verge of earning blocks for edit-warring, so play nicely! -[[User:Splash|Splash]] - [[User talk:Splash|tk]] 00:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Baseball Card == |
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Why are you replacing things with things that do not sound like they are from an encylopedia? The intro that I just put back makes more sense from a someone who is not an American. Thanks from Holland! |
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== [[Baseball card]] == |
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Hello, I reverted your edits to an earlier version, since it seems to be better written, doesn't have the American Card Catalogue examples which are superfluous outside an article on the book, has a better linear progression, and is less biased towards American cards. There is no need to mention the [[The San Diego Chicken]], who was in fact a radio station mascot. I have found no refrences to the 1948 Topps set you sepak of and you seem not to understand the concept of references, which actually have to reference another work. I do hate to say it, but given the edit history, you seem to hava an unhealthy attachemnt to the article. You should really take a look at [[WP:OWN]] and [[WP:NPOV]] especially the [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/FAQ#Anglo-American focus|Anglo-American focus]] section of the FAQ. It appears that [[User:TBTA|TBTA]] was following the idea of "rather than introducing their own cultural bias, they should seek to improve articles by removing any examples of cultural bias that they encounter, or making readers aware of them." You may also want to take a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias]]. [[User:TV Newser|TV Newser]] 13:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Images in the [[Baseball card]] article == |
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I see no problem with the images in the [[Baseball card]] article. They all seem to be good as of the 16:08, 19 September 2006 revision[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baseball_card&diff=76603121&oldid=76602920]. The image at the top of the page shows several modern types from all over the world. If this article was American baseball card I think I could see why you think that "foreign" cards would be inappropriate. Considering this is not the American Wikipeida, the foreign cards are needed and even better if they are used to illustrate the design of baseball cards. [[User:Delgado in Color|Delgado in Color]] 16:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Now look what you have done == |
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It appears you incivility has driven [[User:TBTA|TBTA]] from Wikipedia. I hope that this will in future lead you to consider others before you act. [[User:TV Newser|TV Newser]] 05:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==External links== |
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Hi, I wanted to ask you to be careful about adding links to cardpricer dot com. It appears to require registration for some or all of its content; please see [[Wikipedia:External links]] for why linking to such sites is generally discouraged. [[User:Wmahan|Wmahan]][[User talk:Wmahan|.]] 17:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC) |
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: Could you please answer the question I left on my talk page about whether you are in fact the owner of cardpricer dot com, aka [removed] aka {{user|Blacksoxfan}}? Thank you. [[User:Wmahan|Wmahan]][[User talk:Wmahan|.]] 03:28, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:: Sorry, I didn't realize you'd object to me posting a first name. I've put some evidence for what I said above on my talk page; I think it's pretty clear, but I'm open to your explanations otherwise. [[User:Wmahan|Wmahan]][[User talk:Wmahan|.]] 04:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== I'm taking a look now == |
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Just stop reverting him for a moment, I'm taking a look at the situation.--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 10:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* Thank you and will do. I am glad to discuss this and try and figure out what i can do to solve the problem. People got mad at me for adding links, so then i removed them and i got accused of vandalism by a person who keeps changing my pages.[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 10:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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**I would suggest you stop calling him words like "moron" it will win you no favours. Would you happen to know why he thinks you are a sock?--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 10:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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***I don't think i called him a moron (although anything is possible), i think it was someone else who rv my page. Do you want the long answer or the short answer :-)?[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 10:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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****Let's try the short answer first just to see if we can stop this situation one way or another.--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 11:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*****Should i keep doing these star sections? Okay short answer, a person started editing [[Baseball card]] page with bad information and i would go in and remove it. Some how this guy got involved (recognize i don't know if it is a male or female). After having a long discussion with someone about how I believe CardPricer.com has a valuable place on certain link pages, i realized that it should be removed from other pages (where i put it). So in an attempt to get things going, i went to [[Trading card]] and removed the external links section which at the time included a link to cardpricer, a link to a magazine, and a link to a site promoted by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TequilaShot]] (who is employed by that site). [[User:TV Newser|TV Newser]] started calling me a vandal for removing the section (which i started btw). Then I attempted to point people to the talk page for [[Trading card]] to discuss it instead of adding the section back in/ He did not like this and essentially started calling me a sockpuppet by the name of scott.-- [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 11:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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(Yes the star sections are annoying). I am trying to find a reason why he would accuse you, so far unsuccessful, waiting for him to reply.--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 11:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Okay, I'm going to get breakfast in about 10 minutes or so. Let me know if there is anything else i can do. Really quickly, do you know if there is a piece of wiki code to direct people to discuss a specific section on the talk page ... and how do i point them to the specific section on the talk page? Thanks [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 11:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:Use <nowiki>[[Article name#Section name here]]</nowiki>--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 11:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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awesome, so I'll go put that on the external link section as: Please discuss here: <nowiki>[[Article name#Section name here]]</nowiki>-- [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 11:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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In case you check this again, i just want to clarify that i did not make any claims toward him as an anon. [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 11:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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===Ok=== |
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I have asked him/her to stop the accusations without presenting evidence. But you too have made some nasty comments against him in retaliation as an anon (don't deny it please, it's rather obvious, and can be [[WP:RFCU|easily be proven]] indisputably if needed). Though it is not entirely unjustified, it does violate the [[WP:NPA|No Personal Attacks]] policy, which could lead to [[WP:BLOCK|blocks]]. The outbursts are understandable, but are unlikely to be tolerated if they repeat. So I urge you to stay [[WP:COOL|cool]] and [[WP:CIVIL|civil]] no matter what he throws at you. I will be heading off soon, so this may be resolved on [[WP:AN]] before I am back.--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 11:43, 29 September 2006 (UTC) |
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THanks for your help and i'm not arguing at all but for my own sake i'd like you to check the login and out times and also my ip address as you will see it is nowhere near that one. Again, i don't want to beat a dead horse, and i certainly thank you for your help. Thank you again for providing some level headed nature to this. I did tell him to learn to read and that was a violation. Thanks again and keep it real! [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 11:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC) Now i'm realing going to breakfast |
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:Let's please centralize this discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Please Help]]. There are at least five user talk pages being spammed with this. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 02:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Willie Mays== |
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I am well aware of what a Wiki is (since I am an admin here), if you remove huge amount of content from an article as you did to [[Willie Mays]] you need to provide carful edit summaries so other editors understand what you have done. Once again you have removed the MLBHOF template form this article without explaining why. Please be careful in the future. -- [[User:No Guru|No Guru]] 04:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC) |
I am well aware of what a Wiki is (since I am an admin here), if you remove huge amount of content from an article as you did to [[Willie Mays]] you need to provide carful edit summaries so other editors understand what you have done. Once again you have removed the MLBHOF template form this article without explaining why. Please be careful in the future. -- [[User:No Guru|No Guru]] 04:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Warning == |
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{{test2a}} [[User:OBILI|OBILI]] [[User talk:OBILI|®]] [[Special:Contributions/OBILI|±]] 16:55, 19 October 2006 (UTC) |
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{{wr2}} [[User:TV Newser|TV Newser]] [[User talk:TV Newser|Tipline]] 04:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== You are doing a good job == |
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You are doing a good job. You really understand the concept of wiki and should not let trolls and vandals get you down. I support you 100%. [[User:Belly Flop Patrol|Belly Flop Patrol]] 09:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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*[[User:TV Newser|TV Newser]] is part of the [[User:CFIF|CFIF]]/[[User:Splash|Splash]] cabal that sees socks everywhere. They think I am a sock and will claim that me defending [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] is more evidence that I am a sock and he is a sock. I am not a sock, he is not a sock and he as only made good edits and really understands the concept of wiki. TV Newser, CFIF, and Splash should all be banned forever! [[User:Belly Flop Patrol|Belly Flop Patrol]] 09:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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*Thanks for the support! I agree, onward and upward!!! --[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 09:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[user:TV Newser]]== |
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I've blocked this user for 24 hours for harassment. There's simply no reason to add a prod tag, which clearly states it can be removed "for any reason", and then call it "vandalism" when someone does. Thus, the vandalism warnings you received were also out of line, and you were justified to remove them. Since this user has still not made it clear ''why'' he considers you a sock of a previously permablocked user, and since you have never come near any article the blocked user has edited, the allegations appear baseless. I would advise you to try to tread carefully when dealing with this user, as there's no need to inflame the situation further. Best, <font color="#0000FF">[[User:Firsfron|Firsfron of Ronchester]]</font> 09:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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*Thank you for your help with this situation. I really don't mind if people want to give me legitimate warnings, but I still don't think I have done anything to warrant one yet. I have read your comments on my Talk page and thank you for your help. If you have any advice as to how I can quickly and easily deal with these types of incidents (other than what I am doing), it would be appreciated. Thanks for your time. --[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 09:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::You've opened a [[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-21 User:TV Newser|Mediation case]], you've reported the incidents to [[WP:AN/I]]... That's all you can really do. Try not to refer to a user's contributions as "vandalism" as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tecmobowl&diff=prev&oldid=82782775 here] and that may also help. Remember you can almost always de-escalate a situation by using a calm tone. Probably won't work for someone who thinks you're a sock, though. It may also help to ''not'' have inflammatory comments from a user calling for the banning of a well-respected admin (see above). Anyway, happy editing! <font color="#0000FF">[[User:Firsfron|Firsfron of Ronchester]]</font> 10:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Hi, i have taken on your case at the Mediation Cabal. If you have have any issues please contact me on my talk page. This is my first mediation case. [[User:Jeffklib|Jeffklib]] 08:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Fair use rationale for Image:HankAaron.jpg== |
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== Talk page headers == |
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Thanks for editing the talk page headers at [[Talk:Babe Ruth]] - it's hard for us to keep up with articles getting delisted as GAs, so I appreciated you re-grading it as a B. Could I request, though, that you leave the headers on the page? Those headers will remain there whatever the article quality - Babe Ruth will remain a core biography even if it's a stub! For Version 0.5, we have the option of using an older version if the quality goes REALLY downhill. Thanks! [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] 15:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Vandalism warning DO NOT DELETE! == |
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{{drmafd2}} Please see [[The American Card Catalog]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_American_Card_Catalog&diff=prev&oldid=83373571] [[User:OBILI|OBILI]] [[User talk:OBILI|®]] [[Special:Contributions/OBILI|±]] 15:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Hank Aaron tag == |
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Hi, I started a discussion section at [[Talk:Hank Aaron#Primarysources tag]] involving your {{tl|primarysources}} tag. See you there. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 21:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Rookie Card picture== |
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What do you mean there's no need to have Babe Ruth's rookie card on Babe Ruth's page? [[User:MikeBriggs|MikeBriggs]] 13:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Jackie Robinson article cleanup == |
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Thank you for your efforts in cleaning up this article. I'm semi-new to Wikipedia and not well versed in it's policies and procedures. But, wow, did I learn a lot by simply reviewing your edits! Once again, thank you. [[User:Robertjohnsonrj|robertjohnsonrj]] 15:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Jackie Robinson article: His first encounter with a MLB team, the Chicago White Sox == |
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Reguarding this, do you feel that the removed statement reguarding his 1st encounter with the White Sox and with Luke Appling to be noteworthy enough for reinstatement into this article? Comment appreciated. [[User:Robertjohnsonrj|robertjohnsonrj]] 16:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Jackie Robinson == |
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Thanks again. The source does ''not'' say that it was his first time, I realized. [[User:Robertjohnsonrj|robertjohnsonrj]] 14:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Trouble Brewing???? == |
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Just thought you should be aware of [[User:Techmobowls|Tecmobowls]]. You will notice he/she has suddenly appeared and is only [[Special:Contributions&target=Techmobowls|contributing]] on pages i have recently [[Special:Contributions&target=Techmobowls|edited]]. Nothing outrageous or in violation of "wiki" has happened, but this might be another example of [[User:TV Newser|TV Newser]] trying to pick a fight. Any thoughts?[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 20:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:He's banned now. The violation of wiki is being an imposter of another user, in this case you. BTW, TV Newser is simply a sock of [[User:Spotteddogsdotorg|Spotteddogsdotorg]] which is one of the larger sock rings going around. I've blocked over a dozen of them and [[User:Splash|Splash]] has blocked far more in over a year. If you refer to Spotteddogsdotorg, many will know who you're referring to. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 00:58, 29 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Jackie Robinson article (concerning POV & weasle words) == |
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I'm not sure what to do to fix these problems. The confrontational elements that I've added to the article are from, I believe, reliable and neutral sources. I could be wrong about that, of course. Do you have any further suggestions to correct these problems? Thanks for your comments. [[User:Robertjohnsonrj|robertjohnsonrj]] 04:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC) |
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==Jake Daubert== |
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Just a suggestion... |
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Edit summary comments like "you are now being reported for the violation of the 3rv rule. I'm not taunting you, i'm getting sick of dealing with you." can be considered [[WP:CIVIL|incivil]] or a light [[WP:NPA|personal attack]]. I'd advise making comments towards the changes/edits and not the individual. --[[User:Madchester|Madchester]] 04:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== More hints == |
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A couple hints after glancing over your user page. You can link correctly to a category by prefixing with a colon, <nowiki>[[:Category:Baseball cards]]</nowiki> → [[:Category:Baseball cards]] (the same goes for templates and images). Another useful template to add is {{tl|fact}} which tags a specific sentence as needing a reference. I prefer to use the {{tl|unreferenced}} tag only when there are zero references in the entire article. Enjoy. :) —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 13:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Template editing help == |
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I was thinking that some adjustments could be made to the <nowiki>{{MLB HoF}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{Infobox Cooperstown}}</nowiki>, and the <nowiki>{{Infobox baseball player}}</nowiki> templates, but I don't know what the process for suggesting changes to templates is. Ithink the cooperstown box is somewhat unnecessary on pages where the baseball player box has been used. I think the MLB HoF box could be used a lot more, but think it lacks one piece of important information: induction year. Perhaps changing the display text to be: <nowiki>Player Name</nowiki>, inducted in YEAR, is a member of the Baseball Hall of Fame. What do you think and how do i go about asking for others for their input? I'd be happy to move this discussion to my [[User talk:Tecmobowl|talk]] page or some other page where it would be more appropriate. //[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 14:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:I honestly hadn't looked too hard at those. I see {{tl|Infobox baseball player}} already has an "inductiondate" parameter so I'm not sure why {{tl|Infobox Cooperstown}} even exists. I've never been impressed with {{tl|MLB HoF}}. As far as where to start a discussion, I'd think the best option would be [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball]]. Unfortunately, it's questionable how many people have that on their watchlists (it was dormant for so long that I took it off my watchlist for quite a while). The best way to ensure a lot of participation for baseball discussion is probably to leave a short note on individual users' talk pages directing them to where the actual discussion will be. You could also leave a note on the templates' talk pages. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 14:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC) |
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HI: I don't have any experience with the templates, as I haven't used them in any articles. So...I don't feel I can really weigh in with any opinions on the subject. Thanks for asking, though. It looks like an interesting discussion, and I wish you luck in achieving any change(s) you hope to get made. [[User:BurmaShaver|BurmaShaver]] 02:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Question about CardPricer.com Image Library == |
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Thanks for adding a link to the Resources section on Wikiprojects:Baseball Players. The question I had about CardPricer.com's image library is if there is a way to view the image without the cardpricer.com watermark placed on top. If there's not, I'm not sure there is much use in using any of them for an article. - [[User:Mattingly23|Mattingly23]] 02:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== [[Dutch Ruether]]... == |
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...another nice article. Great job! —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 14:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Beckett Media Company == |
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I'm pretty sure there was a long article about the compnay, but i can't seem to figure out what happened. Does this mean that the article never existed? Thought you could help me on that one. //[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 17:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:There was a [[Beckett Media]] article that was created in late August and deleted on October 12 because it was a copyright violation from http://www.beckett.com/mediarelations/aboutbeckett.html. Does the text at that URL look familiar? I don't see a [[Beckett Media Company]] article by that exact name though. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 17:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::I do a lot of new page patrol, and I hate to say it, but that [[James Beckett]] article is one of the nicer stubs I've seen in a while! :) But, in general, I try to encourage people to watch others at first - figure out which users are well-respected and see how they edit (not necessarily how they behave but how they edit). {{user|Adam Carr}} jumps to mind as always being associated with well-written and extremely well-researched articles. Also, look through [[WP:FA]] to see articles that have been through a pretty rigorous process to become featured. I suggest people start out slowly since it worked fairly well for me - not too many take me up on the offer though! :) —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 17:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Joe Gedeon == |
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Returning your message: while I do agree with you on the larger point that many of the facts of the Black Sox scandal will never be known, such as just what did Shoeless Joe know and when did he know it, Gedeon's suspension is a matter of the public record. As he was the only active ballplayer to be suspended for the scandal other than the Eight Men Out, the page should mention him, in some manner. Thank you for responding personally. [[User:Vidor|Vidor]] 05:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Lee Smith == |
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FYI, {{user|Nishkid64}} is trying to get [[Lee Smith (baseball)]] to [[WP:FA|featured article]] status. I've dumped a lot of detail into that article (maybe too much). I like what you've been doing with large baseball bio articles - maybe you'd care to have a look at that one? |
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BTW, no need to put the note in [[User:Tecmobowl/notepad]]. Except for extreme cases, no one is going to want to delete pages in your user space. I probably have a dozen or more - some I've probably even forgotten about. You can use those however you see fit! If you feel like deleting one, just put a {{tl|db-user}} on it and it will disappear eventually. |
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The only exceptions to keeping user space pages I've seen are 1.) people whose only edits are creating personal ad-space (for their band or company or some nonsense - I've had a few of those deleted) and 2.) blatant attack pages. |
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Hopefully I'll see you at the Lee Smith page! :) —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 22:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:Seems like good suggestions at first glance. As far as the more important baseball bio pages you mentioned, I couldn't agree more. It seems like no one "babysits" them properly so people start hacking it up with no checks and balances. I also started some expansion to [[Fred Clarke]] since he's in the HOF and his article is practically a stub. But I've only gotten as far as web researching and piling a bunch of random facts in [[User:Wknight94/Stuff In Progress]]. I'm not real good at concentrating on single articles, esp. since the admin deal started. Thanks again for your help with Lee Smith! Hopefully someone can eventually find the time to actually implement the changes you've suggested... —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 20:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Please be careful when reverting == |
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Hi, you made changes to [[Babe Ruth]] and cited legitimate concerns (which I will discuss later when I get a chance), but a few of your edits I just don't understand. Why break the link to [[Loss (baseball)]]? Why did you change Ruth's induction year to 1935 from the correct year of 1936? Why remove my citations for Ruth's accolades? I understand if you disagree about how information is presented, but it doesn't help anyone to make blanket reverts that reintroduce many of the past errors. Please return these to their corrected versions if you agree with me. Also, in your edit summary, you say 'i would suggest adjusting the information, not the info'. Can you explain what this means? Thanks, - [[User:Mattingly23|Mattingly23]] 16:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Curse of the black sox== |
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Hello, you added a {{tl|db-blanked}} template to [[Curse of the black sox]]. When I check the history, it was created by [[User:Amchow78|Amchow78]] ([[User talk:Amchow78|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Amchow78|contribs]]). Are you sure that was the right template because it doesn't seem like it. Please check. [[User:Angusmclellan|Angus McLellan]] [[User talk:Angusmclellan|(Talk)]] 01:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC) |
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OK, after trying before and you still erased it, I have reduced the so-called "curse" to two paragraphs which are factual and verifiable. I don't see that there is enough info to warrant a separate article about it at this time, but it would be misleading to ignore the impact the scandal had on the White Sox francise. When they won the pennant in 1959, that 40-year gap was the longest in history. Since surpassed by various teams, of course, including themselves. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 19:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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When I say "The World Series DVD" I mean the official 2005 World Series DVD issued by Major League Baseball. Meanwhile, I don't understand why you have such an issue with this. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 19:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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It's ''you'' that seems to have an issue with this, as you seem to be the only one that is unaware of this so-called "curse", and that's why I posted it on your page. You've also won the 3-revert rule for the day, so that's that for now. In effect, you want me to go back to the DVD and look for specific quotes about it. Fine. I'll do that when I get the chance. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 20:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[Sandy Koufax]] == |
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I noticed you added the <nowiki>{{Not verified}}</nowiki> tag to the Sandy Koufax article. I don't necessarily disagree with you, and in fact I haven't read the whole article, but I'm disturbed by a featured article having that tag. If you think it's only in a few spots you might want just user <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> instead (although you can always add that to specific spots anyway). If you think it's a large portion of the article you might want to list it on [[Wikipedia:Featured article review]] so the issue can be addressed and if not addressed, the article can have its featured status removed. [[User:Vicarious|Vicarious]] 08:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Koufax Card -- Reply == |
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Hi; belongs to a friend and so I will have to ask her to scan it and give me the pic. :-) Thanks for your interest tho; I know she'll be grateful as well. [[User:RivkaRebecca|Rivka]] 04:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Your recent edit(s) to [[List of social networking websites]]== |
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== Your recent edits to [[Jim Morrison]] == |
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Hello Tecmobowl. I have reverted your recent edits to [[Jim Morrison]]. You seem to believe that "being encyclopedic" means reading like a police report. And you also have deleted valuable information about the early years of JM - which could be seen as a form of "soft vandalism". These issues have been adressed in the talk page of the article (see section "Style and tone"). Please discuss any future changes of this nature (ie arbitrarily removing text that you deem "non encyclopedic") on the talk page first. Thanks. - [[User:Fils du Soleil|Fils du Soleil]] 15:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:That article is a mess...if you want the statements to stay, then cite sources. This is an encyclopedia, not a literary document. The fact that it reads "like a police report" is irrelevant. [[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 02:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC) |
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I moved your answer here for clarity of reading. For the rest of the discussion, see the article [[Talk:Jim_Morrison|talk]] page. Please do not make further changes of this nature before a consensus is reached. Thanks. - [[User:Fils du Soleil|Fils du Soleil]] 00:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==Your recent edit(s) to [[List of social networking websites]]== |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px|left]] Your addition to [[List of social networking websites]] has been reverted. In the future, please '''only place entries there that are [[Help:Link|internal links]] to actual Wikipedia articles about notable social networking sites'''. [[WP:EL|External links]], [[WP:RED|redlinks]], [[WP:SUBSTUB|substubs]], [[WP:WEB|non-notable sites]] or things that are not [[Social network service|social networking sites]] will be removed. Please see [[WP:WEB]] for information on notability for websites on Wikipedia; '''As previously stated above, [[Wakoopa]] was launched [[May 2]] [[2007]] and is not yet notable'''. Please do not re-add the site until it becomes notable. The [[Talk:List of social networking websites|talk page]] is a better place to ask questions, rather than an edit summary. Thanks. [[User:Refsworldlee|'''Ref''']] <sup>[[User talk:Refsworldlee|(chew)]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Refsworldlee|<small>(do)</small>]] 20:17, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:<s>Hi. Regarding your revert of the above and your comment in the edit summary, "see (what post) on (what) discussion page"? There's nothing in the discussion page for the article, nor the list, nor this user talk page - where is it? Until you enter proper discussion on the matter, I will return the list to its correct state. Any further reverting may be taken to admin intervention. Thanks.</s> Please disregard the above as you have now entered into discussion about [[Wakoopa]]. Thanks. [[User:Refsworldlee|'''Ref''']] <sup>[[User talk:Refsworldlee|(chew)]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Refsworldlee|<small>(do)</small>]] 20:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Deletions == |
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Since you've been on since last summer, surely you know that deleting fair comments and questions from any talk page, including your own, is against the rules. Meanwhile, I posted essentially the same comment on the Black Sox page - that if you're going to axe one curse you should axe them all. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 20:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ron liebman]] == |
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You have stumbled across one of the this guy's IP address sockpuppets. You reverted his change before I could. I think we can at least agree on this one. The guy may well be right factually, but he refuses to supply ''any'' documentation despite repeated requests to do so by many editors. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 20:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:As soon as you had reverted his changes to the Cicotte article, he added them back, and I reverted them again. The sockpuppet page shows that this guy has no regard at all for wikipedia rules, hence all of his entries are being treated as vandalism and the three-revert rule does not apply. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 21:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Articles created == |
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You need a separate category for existing articles that you've unilaterally imposed your unyielding point-of-view upon. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 15:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*You have no right to unilaterally chop stuff, and as an editor it is your duty to "consider" other editors' viewpoints. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 03:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Vandalism == |
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Deleting fair comments from any talk page, including your own, is considered vandalism. You need to stop citing wikipedia rules to others and start reading them yourself. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== It's you that's harassing me. == |
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You refuse to discuss the questions I raise, except to inform me that you're going ahead and doing it your way. You continually impose your viewpoint on articles. It is you that "doesn't get it". [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== I have asked an admin... == |
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...to look into this ongoing debate we seem to be having. My greatest beef with your editing at the moment is the reversion of the Ty Cobb stats back to those of the researchers, which are both inconsistent with each other and with the official MLB stats. To pretend that one research group's stats are the "correct" stats is blatant POV-pushing, which you claim to be opposed to. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 13:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:In addition to your inconsistencies on POV issues, I have also reported your blind deletions of trivia sections on many articles, which is not what WP:TRIVIA says to do; and your deletion of fair comments from your talk page, which is also against the rules. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 13:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==WP:TRIVIA== |
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Hello Tecmobowl. I see you are having a dispute with another user over content. Using article talk pages and your own talk page is a good way to build [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]]. Shutting down communications or simply reverting edits that you don't like will not help to build good articles in the long run. Check out [[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes|this page]] for more info. |
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As far as the policy regarding [[WP:Trivia|trivia]] please not that the policy states that trivia sections do not need to be deleted on sight (unless they contain speculation, rumor, hearsay, invented "facts", or libel) but need to be incorporated into the article. If you are unwilling to do that please place a <nowiki>{{trivia}}</nowiki> tag at the appropriate place in the article. Please let me know if you have any questions about any of this. Cheers. -- [[User:No Guru|No Guru]] 19:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:Okay, thank you for the reply. I would just really encourage you to read the policy links above and to make sure that you fully understand that trivia sections do not need to be deleted on sight (<b>unless they contain speculation, rumor, hearsay, invented "facts", or libel</b>) -- [[User:No Guru|No Guru]] 23:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==Stub articles== |
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The thing is, they are basic stub articles. They contain basic information about the subject matter. All the information is properly sourced. If the articles were to be expanded, they would currently have a decent introductory paragraph. I don't see anything in [[WP:STUB]] that would disqualify the articles. [[User:Patken4|Patken4]] 00:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[Ty Cobb]] == |
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I can understand your wanting to improve the article content, but until you stop deleting the OFFICIAL MLB.COM stats, and retaining only the stats from private research, I have no choice but to revert the article wholesale. It is fair to report both sets of stats with an explanation. It is POV-pushing to report only the privately researched (and inconsistent within different sites) stats while leaving out the only stats that MLB recognizes as valid. We've had this argument with that "Ron Liebman" character: MLB owns the stats, not you and me nor any other private research site. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 03:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[Babe Ruth]] == |
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Kindly explain what specific problems you have with the previous version of the article. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 03:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==[[Shoeless Joe Jackson]]== |
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You managed to put back the "from" cite that you complained about, along with the spam cite. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 03:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== You won't post on the article talk pages == |
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This is the only way I have to get your attention. You have NOT given any specifics, particularly for deleting the MLB.COM stats. Please explain to me, somewhere... here, or on my talk page, or on the Ty Cobb page (where there was already discussion about it) why you keep deleting those stats. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[Ty Cobb]] == |
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And if I do try, again, to fix your damage to the article, you'll slap me with a 3-revert violation. Nothing doing. I will let the admins weigh in on this one before making any more changes to articles that you seem to be taking ownership of. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== You tell me to fix it, but I already did that. == |
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I did that several days ago, painstakingly added the MLB.COM stats. You rubbed them out with your re-edit, and now you tell me to do the same painstaking work again. ''That is unfair.'' [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Explain to me why I should have to do the same work twice == |
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Your being unfair, you are being a bully, and you yourself need some lessons in wiki etiquette. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Which specific version of Ty Cobb did you revert back to? == |
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That info will make it easier to restore just the stats that you deleted and hopefully leave your own edits intact. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 05:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*Never mind, I've tried to fix it as per your recommendations. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 05:16, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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I am no longer watching ''any'' article that you've touched. You win. Go get yourself a brew in downtown Normal somewhere. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 13:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==Your removal of urls with unique information/edit warring== |
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I asked you politely not to edit war after you removed a url with unique information from the [[Sandy Koufax]] external links section. See [http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1007124&position=P]. Instead, you continued to RV. |
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I asked you to move discussion of the issue to the talk page, instead of RVing and edit warring. Instead, you have now RV'd that page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sandy_Koufax&diff=134759562&oldid=134758791]. |
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In addition, you responded not by talking on a talk page as I had suggested, buty by going to a number of additional pages that I had edited, in short order, deleting urls that similarly have unique information, such as ESPN, Baseball Cube, and Baseball Library, from the external links. See diffs at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Grabow&diff=134759253&oldid=134410728 John Grabow], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jason_Marquis&diff=134759091&oldid=134754929 Jason Marquis], and[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brad_Ausmus&diff=134759409&oldid=134754857 Brad Ausmus]. And even as I have been writing this I see that you have made similar innapropriate deletions to Moe Berg, Bo Belinsky, José Bautista, Morrie Arnovich, Cal Abrams, Ben Zeskind, Josh Appell, Ryan Braun, John Grabow, Sam Fuld, Brian Horwitz, and Aaron Rifkin so far. |
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You have done this in short order, suggesting that you are going into my history page to delete urls on changes that I have worked on. |
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I must ask you again to desist. Kindly RV the changes you made yourself. Both to the Koufax article and the other articles. Then, as I suggested before, explain your position here. I have indicated that the url that started this has unique data -- that is clear from looking at it. You have clearly not looked at it, but instead looked at what articles interest me and without discussion made the same innapropriate changes. I am dismayed. I would appreciate it if you would right the matter. |
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If need be, let's bring in a third party to look at this. I think that your approach -- edit warring, not agreeing to my suggestion to discuss on the talk page, looking at my history to make the same mistaken changes on other articles -- is highly disruptive and innapropriate. |
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Thanks.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 08:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:Personally, I see no problems with the Fangraphs link. It provides unique statistical information that can't be found at Baseball-Reference or any other baseball statistical website. There is a bit of an excess of ELs at [[Sandy Koufax]], so I have removed some unnecessary links. Also, don't edit war; please discuss on the talk page. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 13:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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::I asumed good faith and, before putting the links back myself, actually viewed them to fee if they were unique. Based on the information they offered, most of the links you've been deleting have in fact been unique. I also ask you to stop. Wikipedia's not a link farm, but it is somewhere where people go to also look for information from other sites.--[[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 13:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Tecmobowl, I removed some of the links not to engage in the edit war, but to see if the current version would act as a compromise between you and Epeefleche. Also, the links I removed were not similar to others at the article, so I removed those. I don't believe they were really necessary for the section. As I said, I only made the changes to see if there can be a consensus on the current version. You removed the ELs, and continued to do so despite attempts at discussion by Epeefleche. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 13:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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I have centralized this and related discussion by moving it to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball#Removal_by_Tecmobowl_of_urls_with_unique_information.3B_failure_to_discuss_rather_than_delete.3B_edit_warring]. |
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Please leave the above existing discussion here, however.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 17:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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BTW, I wanted to discuss an issue that you raised, but as it is a point of procedure and there is enough writing going on on the above page, I thought we might chat about it here. |
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You assserted as follows: "As a follow up, my talk page is NOT the place to discuss this matter. This is certainly an acceptable venue. The issue is not about me, it is about the content. People who want to know about this will see it here. // Tecmobowl 08:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)" Can you point me to support in Wiki policy in that regard? To facilitate discussion, I did move discussion elsewhere, as a courtesy, but I would be interested in seeing your support for that view. |
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First, I would like to see the Wiki rule. Second, while I don't know that this is necessary, for me to discuss the issue on your talk page, in fact the above discussion is in large part about your behavior. |
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Thanks much.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 18:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== You're welcome == |
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I just hope we can get the discussion oriented more toward building consensus. It's much more difficult to do than I would have thought before becoming actively involved in WP. --[[User:Sanfranman59|Sanfranman59]] 00:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== NPOV on Ty Cobb page == |
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Hey - I think there's some confusion about NPOV. Take a look under the [[WP:NPOV#A simple formulation|A simple forumation]] section of the WP:NPOV page, and I think you'll see that the following statement fits the NPOV policy perfectly. |
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<blockquote><i>Cobb is widely considered one of the greatest players ever.</i></blockquote> |
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Thanks! [[User:Guanxi|Guanxi]] 00:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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* I agree that the <i>feelings of the editors</i> should not be part of the article, but Cobb's status as one of the greatest ever is not <i>feelings of the editors</i>, but something on which almost every baseball historian and fan agrees; it's the primary reason for his notability, and thus important to tell a reader learning about Cobb for the first time. You say, <i>There are a number of people who think Cobb is one of the greatest players, there are a number that don't.</i> Do you really dispute that, <i>Cobb is widely considered one of the greatest players ever.</i>? In 25+ years of being a baseball geek, reading pretty widely, I don't recall anyone seriously suggesting otherwise. The HoF and other stats won't mean much to someone who isn't a baseball fan -- if you have another way to say it in plain English, I'm all for it. [[User:Guanxi|Guanxi]] 13:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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*"Cobb is widely considered one of the greatest players ever" is an absolutely true and verifiable statement. As noted in ''The Year Babe Ruth Hit 104 Home Runs'', and countless times prior, Ruth displaced Cobb as the guy who was considered ''the'' greatest player in the game. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 16:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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* Based on the above, I'm going to restore the statement. If you want to change it, please improve it in a way that addresses everyone's concerns and I doubt you'll have any objections. Thanks. [[User:Guanxi|Guanxi]] 01:43, 2 June 2007 (UTC) |
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*That statement is NOT true. I'm not going to let that piece of information remain nor am i going to engage BaseballBugs in a conversation about it. Conversations with him are futile. Stick to the facts, let a person make their own interpretations. I believe personally that Cobb is the greatest player of the deadball era. That being said, it does not belong in an encyclopedia article. //[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 03:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC) |
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*You say "there are a number who don't think Cobb is one of the greatest players". Who? Name a few. Or one, even. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC) |
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*I'm going to continue this discussion to the Cobb talk page, where it belongs. [[User:Guanxi|Guanxi]] 17:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Some more thoughts == |
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I know at the hockey project that I am a member of, we have a list of articles we have created in the last month or so. So as someone writes a basic stub, someone else will come along and add to it. However, this list only stays around for a month or two. If there were a list of articles that need improvement (probably best to break it down at the project of each sport instead of sports in general), then others can add to articles on that list. As an article gets better, it can come off the list. It could still be a good stub at that point, but at least it has been expanded. The only problem with this is some people who are unaware of the project won't add their articles to the list. But eventually someone on the project will see it and add it. |
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The other suggestion is to sub-categorize the expand command. Right now, it is broken down by date someone wanted the article expanded. It might be possible to direct those to the appropriate sport. I wouldn't know where to even start with this idea. Let me know your thoughts. [[User:Patken4|Patken4]] 00:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Misplaced confessions == |
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So, you're wanting a chapter-and-verse citation from ''Eight Men Out'' about the lost confessions, in the Shoeless Joe article, but you're letting the exact same comment stand uncited in the Black Sox page??? [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 04:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:On both articles, I have now pointed out that it's discussed on p.257 of ''Eight Men Out''. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 16:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Jeremy Stenberg== |
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Information about him is definitely not easy to come by. He's referenced in several articles on the site already, so you might be able to get something from there. [http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/STENBERG_JEREMY.html EXPN bio] looks like it hasn't been updated since 2002, but there's some stuff there. There's also an [http://video.aol.com/video/jeremy-stenberg-profile/1715517 AOL Video] thing about him. Otherwise, all I see around is just the occasional race summaries and discussion forums, which is I'm sure what you've seen as well. His not having his own website is terribly inconvenient, isn't it? [[User:Matt91486|matt91486]] 05:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:[http://etniesmotox.com/team/twitch/ This] and [http://expn.go.com/expn/story?pageName=050804_stenberg01 this] could also be some useful. [[User:Matt91486|matt91486]] 05:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==[[Chipper Jones|CJ]]== |
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No, thank you – that article desperately needed detrivialization. [[User:Cleduc|Cleduc]] 15:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== DYK == |
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|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] -->Thanks Tecmobowl for the great article, kindly nominated by Bbik. Do feel free to self-nom in future. Thanks, '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' ([[User talk:Blnguyen|bananabucket]]) 02:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==[[Erskine Mayer]] and baseball links== |
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My sincere compliments on your rewriting of the [[Erskine Mayer]], which comes off now as an article, rather than a bland statement of facts about an individual. I will suggest that links not be removed while the matter is under discussion, especially given that consensus is that they be retained. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] 14:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Hello == |
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I do not want to engage in another argument over the links found on a number of [[baseball]] articles. That being said, the B-R bullpen is a wiki and not considered a reliable source. In [[WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided]], it clearly states: "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." B-R bullpen seems to fail on both accounts. However, if you find some good information there, I would encourage you to include that information on the relevant wikipedia article and find the original source for that information. //[[User:Tecmobowl|Tecmobowl]] 03:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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As stated in the edit summary, and despite your claim, the B-R bullpen satisfies [[WP:EL]]. You have not even bothered to provide an excuse for deletion of the fangraphs link. Unless you can demonstrate that you have convinced the relevant editors that these links should not be used, the status quo dictates that they remain as is. Your persistent insistence to impose you own arbitrary views, here and elsewhere, and to refuse to comply with efforts to reach consensus, are going to place you at substantial risk of Wikipedia sanctions. This is a collective effort, it's not your place to be dictating what stays or goes in the face of a clear consensus that disagrees with your actions. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] 03:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Cobb == |
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Tecmobowl...in response to your message on my talk page...what examples are you referring to in the article that you want me to have a look at? -- [[User:Sportsdude820|transaspie]] 03:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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*More on Cobb. In reviewing the restored Cobb article, I've discovered that the entire section on the Chalmers Award isn't GA quality. I've left it far too short...it needs more detail. As it is, the [[1910 Chalmers Award]] article is too short as well. I want to try to adapt most of the version that I was on the much longer Ty Cobb page onto that one. Once I get that out of the way, I can fix the version on Cobb's page. -- [[User:Sportsdude820|transaspie]] 05:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC) (ignore the inaccurate message I originally left you...I misread the article.) |
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== Tagging baseball players for speedy deletion == |
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Stop it, right now, please. Your actions are disruptive. If you do not believe they are notable, take them to [[WP:AFD]], but their notability is asserted. [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 09:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:Harrassment? I have asked you, civilly, to stop tagging articles that assert notability for speedy deletion. Please do not be so sensitive. [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 10:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::Sorry if I reverted anything else - you had wrongly tagged so many articles for speedy deletion my primary concern was to remove these tags before they slipped through the cracks. If I have - unintentionally - removed or added any infoboxes, please feel free to reinstate them. But do not readd speedy deletion tags to articles that assert the notability of the subject; as I said, that is disruptive. [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 10:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I described an action as lunatic. This is not the same as a personal attack. Your defensive and aggressive attitude ("Back the hell off") is not helping. Will you promise to tag articles that assert notability for AFD (or [[WP:PROD|prod]]) in future, rather than speedy deletion? [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 10:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Look, if describing my the action of tagging an article that clearly and blatantly asserted the notability of its subject as "lunatic" upset you, then I thoroughly apologise; I meant no offense. But I would urge you strongly to not ignore the community's rules around deletion, and follow them, rather than causing further disuption. [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 10:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Dude, you're digging a hole for yourself here ... I would suggest you stop, you're not helping. I don't mind you describing me as "retarded and totally offensive", but others will. I am - again - sorry if one unfortunate choice turn of phrase upset you. [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 10:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::Being bold is fine. Being disruptive is another. I politely asked you to stop, rather than politely engaging you, because you wrongly tagged at least 40 or 50 articles for speedy deletion in a short space of time, and it was imperative you stopped. Now that you have stopped, I more than happy to engage you. Is there anything about the deletion process (speed, prod or AFD) that you don't understand? If I have removed any prod tags, it's because the articles do assert notability of the subject. The next step is the formal deletion process, at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. [[User:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; font-family: cursive ;color: #006600">Neil</span>]] [[User_talk:Neil|<span style="text-decoration:none; color: #006600"><big>╦</big></span>]] 10:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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If speedy deletion tags have been removed by anyone other than the pages creator you may consider the deletion contested and you must not re-add the speedy deletion tags. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 10:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Furthermore, please communicate civilly with other users. Speedy deletion has very narrow crtieria - if a page ASSERTS notability, it is not a candidate for [[WP:CSD|CSD A7]]. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 10:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Consider this a formal warning. Please curb your language and behave civily. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 10:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:If I may, I would ask you to please familiarize yourself with [[WP:AFD]], [[WP:DP]] and [[WP:BIO]]/[[WP:N]] (if you haven't already done so) ''before'' you submit an AfD. Mass nominations should only be used when the articles suffer from the same fundamental policy violation. Otherwise, it's better to file separate nominations or group nominations to make it easier to evaluate your proposal. Thank you. -- [[User:Seed 2.0|Seed]] [[User talk:Seed 2.0|2.0]] 10:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::Great. :) Have a good week. Cheers [[User:Seed 2.0|Seed]] [[User talk:Seed 2.0|2.0]] 11:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Impending [[WP:3RR]] violation at [[Al Rosen]]== |
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The sequence of edits and reversions of the [[Al Rosen]] article are placing you at the cusp of violation of Wikipedia's [[WP:3RR]] policy. I was penalized and given a block for a rather pedantic violation of the rule, and the admins who hand out the penalties are rather inflexible in their by-the-book interpretation of the policy. Please read the [[WP:3RR]] article and be forewarned. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] 14:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Impending [[WP:3RR]] violation at [[Homer Bailey]]== |
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The sequence of edits and reversions of the [[Homer Bailey]] article are placing you at the cusp of violation of Wikipedia's [[WP:3RR]] policy. I was penalized and given a block for a rather pedantic violation of the rule, and the admins who hand out the penalties are rather inflexible in their by-the-book interpretation of the policy. Please read the [[WP:3RR]] article and be forewarned. --[[User:E tac|E tac]] 04:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:Personal attacks? I was mereley stating the truth...not attacking. I am not abusing any system, when sports news websites all over the place are reporting the same info it belongs on wikipedia, so either you are either stupid or ignorant for continuously removing it.--[[User:E tac|E tac]] 04:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::Funny removing my comments from here now, perhaps it is you who needs to read up on policy.--[[User:E tac|E tac]] 04:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Blocked== |
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You have been block for violating the [[WP:3RR|Three revert rule]] on the page [[Al Rosen]]. |
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[[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 04:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Block extended to 48 hours for your 3rr violation on [[Homer Bailey]]. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 04:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:You broke the three revert rule on two seperate occasions despite warnings that you were about to. The block stands. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 05:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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*It seems like you're going through what I was going through about mid-May. At that time, someone suggested I read this article. I saw a lot of myself in it: [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GoodBye] [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] 09:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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yeah matt garza never played in the majors....you sure know your baseball--[[User:E tac|E tac]] 06:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== baseball bugs == |
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Regarding [[User talk:Baseball Bugs#Stop picking fights|this discussion thread]], there are no policies against using Special:Contributions to see edits that a single editor has made. [[WP:STALK]] is much more specific "Wikistalking is the act of following another user around ''in order to harass them''." In other words, following around a user is not stalking in itself. '''~a''' ([[User:Arichnad|user]] • [[User talk:Arichnad|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Arichnad|contribs]]) 06:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC) |
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{{{icon|[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] }}}Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, as you did to [[:{{{1}}}]]}}, you '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-delete3 --><noinclude> --[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 16:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Fangraph deletion == |
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Could you please halt the removal of the Fangraph links? From the Baseball WikiProject talk page, it seems that a clear-cut consensus was not reached. Please try to seek a consensus before going on a Fangraph-link removal rampage, since that's just not going to help the tensions that currently exist between you and a few other editors over the matter. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span> 16:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:Also, please avoid using the undo button so frequently. Those sort of edit summaries are never favorable, and usually lead to edit warring, and such. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span> 16:37, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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{{{icon|[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] }}}Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, as you did to [[:{{{1}}}]]}}, you '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-delete3 --><noinclude> --[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 16:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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{{{icon|[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] }}}This is your '''last warning'''. The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, as you did to [[:{{{1}}}]]}}, you '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-delete4 --><noinclude> |
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==Fangraphs Discussion== |
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You have suggested that the fangraphs discussion be moved. That would make no sense. There is an ongoing discussion of the subject, since May 31st, with 7 other editors, at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball#Deletions_by_Tecmobowl_of_hundreds_of_baseball_urls_w.2Funique_information.3B_failure_to_discuss.3B_edit_warring]. Opening up discussion elsehwere could only confuse and dilute it. I would suggest that if you have any comments you bring them to the existing discussion, which already contains I might point out quite a number of entries by you on the subject.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 17:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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{{{icon|[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] }}}This is your '''only warning'''. The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, as you did to [[:{{{1}}}]]}}, you '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-delete4im --><noinclude>--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 17:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Impending [[WP:3RR]] violation at [[Hideki Matsui]]== |
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The sequence of edits and reversions of the [[Hideki Matsui]] article are placing you at the cusp of violation of Wikipedia's [[WP:3RR]] policy. --[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 17:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Impending [[WP:3RR]] violation at [[Kevin Youkilis]]== |
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The sequence of edits and reversions of the [[Kevin Youkilis]] article are placing you at the cusp of violation of Wikipedia's [[WP:3RR]] policy. --[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 17:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Dispute== |
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Hi. It seems that you and Epeefleche are currently engaged in a dispute. I am sure that you want to resolve this amicably, so can I please suggest that you review [[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes]] and have a go at following the process described. Leave me a note if I can be of further assistance, but hopefully you can sort it out yourselves. I have left exactly the same note for Epeefleche. Cheers [[User:TigerShark|TigerShark]] 17:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:I've been talking to Epeeflechee via email about this whole situation. As for your accusations, read [[WP:AIV]]. It's for vandalism intervention, not dispute intervention. Also, the only reason why he's pursuing the matter is because you keep removing the link. Refrain from doing so for the time-being, and then discuss at the talk page. Like I told Epeeflechee, you are both guilty here, and if one of you guys keeps removing/adding the link, then there's going to be no end to this dispute. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span> 18:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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::In regards to your question at the DYK talk page, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&direction=prev&oldid=135746435]. You can't see directly how it was on the Main Page, but you can see it at the transcluded template. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span> 18:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:::People provided their arguments for keeping/removing the link. The result was no consensus. That doesn't mean you should use that as an indication that people want the link to be removed, and continue removing the link from articles. Until there's a clear-cut consensus, being bold is not particularly helpful (and it's borderline reckless, which is what WP:BOLD tells you not to do). See [[WP:BRD]]. You were bold, people reverted you, and now you've opened up a discussion. By reverting again, you've simply gone back to where you started. I'll participate in the discussion later when I'm not so busy (I have a bunch of school projects due in the next few days). <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span> 18:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the note. I m happy to help here, but I could really do with catching up on progress so far with the dispute resolution. I think that we should use the process described in [[WP:DR]] as a framework, so could you please look through that again and let me know what has/hasn't happened so far. Cheers [[User:TigerShark|TigerShark]] 18:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Stop== |
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Stop deleting sourced information as you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Youkilis&diff=137296658&oldid=137295415 did here] especially with the disingenuous edit summary of "rv see talk page". There is nothing on the talk page about your deletions. <font color="Green">[[User:Irishguy|'''IrishGuy''']]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">[[User talk:Irishguy|''talk'']]</font></sup> 19:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==[[WP:CIV]]== |
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As you deleted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATecmobowl&diff=137297895&oldid=137297311 this comment] with a very incivil edit summary of ''how many idiots are there in one day?'' I will give you an official warning: should you continue to delete sourced material and be incivil to other editors you risk being blocked. <font color="Green">[[User:Irishguy|'''IrishGuy''']]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">[[User talk:Irishguy|''talk'']]</font></sup> 19:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Comment== |
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Per your comment: ''Also, it is not advisable to post comments to a user talk page that are about an article'' I didn't post a comment about an article, I posted a comment about your behavior. And I gave you a warning...which you blanked and called me an idiot. How many editors do you plan to piss off this week? In case you didn't bother to look at my userpage, I am an admin. I know perfectly well the guidelines at [[WP:TALK]]. I would ask you again to read [[WP:CIV]] and take it to heart. <font color="Green">[[User:Irishguy|'''IrishGuy''']]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">[[User talk:Irishguy|''talk'']]</font></sup> 19:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== ANI notice == |
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Just letting you know: [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#behavioral problems at wikiproject baseball: Epeefleche, Baseball Bugs and Tecmobowl]] ~~ |
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<div style="padding:5px; border:1px solid #c0c090; background-color:#FEC;" class="user-block"> [[Image:Modern clock chris kemps 01 with Octagon-warning.svg|40px|left]] You have been [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing for {{{{{subst|}}}#if:48 hours|a period of '''48 hours'''|a short time}} in accordance with [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|Wikipedia's blocking policy]] for violating the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] {{{{{subst|}}}#if:[[Kevin Youkilis]]|on '''[[Kevin Youkilis]]'''|}}. In the future, please solve editing disputes through discussion rather than [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit warring]]. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text <nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki> below. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{sig|}}}|[[User:Heimstern|Heimstern Läufer]] [[User talk:Heimstern|(talk)]] 00:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)}}</div> [[User:Heimstern|Heimstern Läufer]] [[User talk:Heimstern|(talk)]] 00:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC) |
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{{unblock|1=I have simply improved the content of the article ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Youkilis&oldid=137312785 here]) based on discussions ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kevin_Youkilis#Statements_about_Youkilis_and_his_religion here])? Why is it that I am blocked but the other editors are not? And lastly, are you sure you are not confusing this with a previous incident? And did you actually look at those edits? They were not all reverts. The first was a shortening of text, the second was a rv in accordance with an ongoing discussion that the editor has refused to accept, as was the third. That places me at two reverts. The fourth edit as a revert of an addition an editor where the issue was discussed on the talk page AND one of the links [http://www.jewishsports.com/profiles/kevinyoukilis.htm this one] doesn't exist! That content was posted by an ADMIN nonethless!}} |
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:Actually, the content was there previously. You [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Youkilis&diff=next&oldid=135709301 removed it] and I restored it with a cached link...which you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Youkilis&diff=prev&oldid=137296658 removed again] claiming the link didn't work even though it was a different link. It wasn't discussed on the talk page. None of your edits have been until after you removed content numerous times. <font color="Green">[[User:Irishguy|'''IrishGuy''']]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">[[User talk:Irishguy|''talk'']]</font></sup> 01:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Well nice job IrishGuy, have a great time putting more crap out there. See you in two days! |
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Jay Lynch
Why do you say "spam"? http://www.wackypackages2005.com/lost-wackys/ This is not even a product but simply rough drawings that Topps never published! Pepso
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Willie Mays
I am well aware of what a Wiki is (since I am an admin here), if you remove huge amount of content from an article as you did to Willie Mays you need to provide carful edit summaries so other editors understand what you have done. Once again you have removed the MLBHOF template form this article without explaining why. Please be careful in the future. -- No Guru 04:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)