Talk:Cow tipping

Popular culture honorable mentions

I don't know if this is enough for the main page, but I think the card "Friendly Bartender" in the game Hearthstone qualifies as a honorable mention. A cow/tauren bartender which emotes "Don't forget to tip your tauren." when summoned and "Bottoms up!" when attacking is hilarious. IMHO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:470:71B1:A:FF:0:0:1 (talk) 15:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

sounds lovely! feel free to add it to the section. That also reminds me I should add mention to the Depths of Wikipedia account. - MountainKemono (talk) 13:35, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Is Cow Tipping Really an Urban Legend?

In 2010 I was touring North Carolina parks. Somewhere in the mountainous region I stopped at a small-town inn for gas and dinner. They had a pleasant homely restaurant there and, being Saturday night, the place was full of locals. When I was done and stepped out to my car, a bunch of young adult boys approached me. They proposed I join them for "cow tipping," as they were bored and had nothing to do. As a foreigner with no experience in these parts I had no idea what cow tipping is, so they explained it to me. They were quite disappointed when I excused myself, and I gather the rules of the game require a minimum participants.

Anyway, I at least learned what cow tipping is. But in light of this experience, is it not too rush to state in a Wikipedia article that cow tipping is an urban legend? Dov elyada (talk) 13:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

No. --Hob Gadling (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Alright, alright, I'll explain. Wikipedia is based on reliable sources and not on something some random person got told by other random people. They obviously wanted to fool you, and they were disappointed because they thought they had not succeeded. But they had, sort of. --Hob Gadling (talk) 18:15, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

'Missing' or 'offline' sources on wayback machine

Hey so I noticed in some of the archive pages that info was removed due to the source going offline. web.archive.org has snapshots of some of these sources.

Example: in Archive 1, there's a mention of a Dead BC link at the bottom of the page (http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~biol438/Reports/CowTip.PDF) There is a snapshot of this pdf here, a month or 2 before the PDF was taken offline: https://web.archive.org/web/20050829105439/http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~biol438/Reports/CowTip.PDF

I think we should fix/update some of the sources with this method.

108.36.220.94 (talk) 02:34, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit request

Change the caption of the second picture in the article to “ A healthy cow lying on its side is not immobilized; it can rise whenever it chooses.”.

Djdshausjshsh (talk) 06:22, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

References

 Done Actualcpscm (talk) 08:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure this should have been done. The request was to change the gender of the word "cow" from "her" to "it" which is probably incorrect. However, the entire article refers to all cattle as cows, which is also incorrect. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm also not sure this should have been done. The animal in the photo is clearly female, regardless of whether or not the word cow is intended to be used colloquially to mean cattle in general. --DB1729^talk 15:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'd generally agree since I'm a stickler about using the term cow correctly, but this is also a case where animal gender really isn't pertinent to the specific topic the picture is addressing. If I'm talking about a monarch butterfly for instance and how its wings unfurl in a picture, I would use "it" regardless of whether it was a picture of a male or female even though gender is very obvious there. If the focus was on a function specific to male or females, then the gendered term would be appropriate. There could be an argument that using gendered terms might confuse readers into thinking it may be something specific to that gender.

In short, I'm honestly just kind of in a whatever camp on this one. "It" does seem to work better though, so I wouldn't be super inclined to change it back. KoA (talk) 15:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Good point. Although it could be gender pertinent in a way if one assumes anyone attempting such a silly feat would at least have enough sense to try it on a cow, rather than an ornery bull:) --DB1729^talk 19:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2023

Change from: "Cow tipping is the purported activity of sneaking up on any unsuspecting or sleeping upright cow and pushing it over for entertainment. The practice of cow tipping is generally considered an urban legend,[1] and stories of such feats viewed as tall tales.[2]"

To: "Cow tipping is the purported activity of sneaking up on any unsuspecting or sleeping upright cow and pushing it over for entertainment. Cow tipping refers to pushing over cows only and does not include pulling methods such as grabbing cows by the neck or legs as is done in steer wrestling, or methods which use ropes to push over cows such as cow casting.[1] The practice of cow tipping is generally considered an urban legend,[1] and stories of such feats viewed as tall tales.[2]"

Jax0987 (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)Jax0987 Jax0987 (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done. The purpose of the lead section is to summarize the body text. Steer wrestling isn't mentioned in the body text, and casting is already covered in the next paragraph of the lead. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:45, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2023

Change from: "These claims, to date, cannot be reliably verified,[5] with Jake Swearingen of Modern Farmer noting in 2013 that YouTube, a popular source of videos of challenges and stunts, "fails to deliver one single actual cow-tipping video".[32]"

To:"These claims, to date, cannot be reliably verified,[5] with Jake Swearingen of Modern Farmer noting in 2013 that YouTube, a popular source of videos of challenges and stunts, "fails to deliver one single actual cow-tipping video".[32] While several YouTube videos show examples of people taking down cattle, these involve pulling on the neck or legs of the animals, like steer wrestling, and not pushing the cattle over."

Jax0987 (talk) 13:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)Jax0987 Jax0987 (talk) 13:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done, but using different words. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:01, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

But why? Steer wrestling really has nothing to do with cow tipping. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 02:58, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Because these are examples of getting a cow to fall to the ground from a standing position. I agreed with the proposal that it's a worthwhile and encyclopedic distinction to make. I don't have a strong view on this, so in the spirit of WP:BRD I'll leave it up to Jax0897 to make a case for restoring the sentence removed by ZimZalaBim. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:34, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

No Youtube cow tipping evidence

If anyone was cow tipping it would be on youtube. It's not. With all those cameras out there, and people putting everything under the sun, and moon on youtube, there's no cow tipping. Best statistical proof in the world. 2600:8807:5400:28F0:4B1:D602:D837:1F70 (talk) 09:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)