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How do you archive your talk page ARMcgrath (talk) 23:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Help:Archiving a talk page. RF23 (talk) 00:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks ARMcgrath (talk) 00:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

I figured out how to do it. Thanks for helping me out. Enjoy your day ARMcgrath (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

axolotl article

I found a better source for the addition and added it in.

Regarding Igorrr article

Hello RF23,

Thanks for your interest in starting the Igorrr draft. Writing new Wikipedia articles takes time, especially gathering sources; and unfortunately, since the draft has been denied twice on the basis of unreliable sources, I have no idea nor the effort to look into what went wrong and comply to Wikipedia's standard.

I will leave the draft there as is for others to contribute. It is a disappointment to see a significantly notable artist not having a Wikipedia page whereas many other pages I have noticed yielding to the same WP:V, WP:N errors but go unnoticed.

Thank you again, Potasmic (talk) 22:36, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

I messaged the person who declined it because I'm absolutely baffled at that decision, since it has multiple sources from reliable mainstream sites like Ultimate Guitar and Allmusic. It's frustrating that it had to go through the draft process in the first place. If I had of just put what's in the draft in an article nobody would have complained, but the article was locked by an administrator because it was "repeatedly re-created" (twice over a 6 year period, which I don't think is the proper amount of times needed to enact a lock, but whatever.). It's even more frustrating because looking back at the very first Articles for Deletion way back in 2015 was a very weak delete with most users stating to keep it pointing out the notability. RF23 (talk) 00:27, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello,

Regarding Savage Sinusoid. The article looks good already. I also want to note that the album has been reviewed by Anthony Fantano (The Needle Drop) as well. Wikipedia's policy is quite tricky about this, with three discussions(!) about Fantano failing WP:SPS, while some claims that he's established enough. Anyways, you could play safe by not including him in there; just a heads up. Potasmic (talk) 04:43, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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I found some new known show from the GNR with Tracii and Rob. But I was watching a portion of a interview that Raz did and he said they did ten. I added two more from the website interview video that GNR did from 1985. I’m not going to upload that picture because I know exactly what’s going to happen if I do. I don’t want to go through that path again. I think we need to find the last 3 shows because 7 are found. I also created this redirect page for purposes for a better article or something, you can said anything on that. I’m not sure if the article will need to state it if we don’t find it soon but still got the article down which states it. Anyways RF23 I hope we find them. Enjoy your edits ARMcgrath (talk) 02:36, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

While you have been gone. The same idiot you encountered messed with the timeline and tried fixing it twice and got a notification for attack. I didn’t attack anyone I was mad about the face that some user would do that and fixing it is hard ARMcgrath (talk) 08:20, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Remember that same guy who deleted info on the GnR member page. Well he struck again. I reported him. ARMcgrath (talk) 15:22, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Do you mind if I help out the GNR Cropped pictures onto the band members page ARMcgrath (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm actually just finishing that up and am about to save the page. RF23 (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Great to hear ARMcgrath (talk) 01:45, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Well that was fun editing the page but should Ole get a cropped picture of his own ARMcgrath (talk) 02:00, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

The Ole pic is non-free and not able to be used on any page but his.RF23 (talk) 02:01, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Makes sense ARM (talk) 02:03, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Happy Independence Day hope those burgers and dogs taste good. ARMcgrath (talk) 04:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Anon at List of Pro Bowl players

Thanks for your help monitoring List of Pro Bowl players recently. I think the anon from the 96.139 range is actively trying to help. They have identified 3 or 4 Pro Bowlers that initially escaped my net so far. Unless their edits break the table, don't worry about reverting. I'll come in afterward and add in any details they missed or fix any formatting errors. Thanks again! caknuck _° needs to be running more often 15:51, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Danielle Moinet requested a picture update

The edit that I have made to Danielle Moinet's (Summer Rae) page was being requested by her on twitter to change the photo on her wikipedia page. No other editing was needed.Jdweisner84 (talk) 09:04, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Please educate yourself with wikipedia's copyright policy regards to photos. See Wikipedia:Image use policy. The image is being removed because it's an obvious copyright violation and will be deleted shortly. RF23 (talk) 09:06, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Photo is not a copyright violation when proper credit has been given to the photo. Model has requested a photo change and photo comes from her own instagram gallery. Jdweisner84 (talk) 09:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Again, that's not the way photos on wikipedia work. Please educate yourself on the policy. RF23 (talk) 09:12, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I have read your policies and I am giving credit to the source. The only disruption that is being caused is from you. Jdweisner84 (talk) 09:23, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

You clearly didn't read them then. Giving credit to the source does not make the image okay to upload, it's still a copyrighted image and can't be used, unless Wikimedia receives explicit permission from the photographer. RF23 (talk) 09:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I was apparently blocked for violating the 3 revert rule, despite never being warned or talked to about it. I wasn't violating it, I was fixing disruptive editing. User:Jdweisner84 was repeatedly inserting a copyrighted photo into the article, I was reverting him. I warned him on his talk page not to do it and explained why it was not allowed (see directly above). I tried reporting him for vandalism but was told to take it to the edit warring noticeboard, and noticed I was blocked. Section 5 of the 3RR article states exceptions are allowed for "Removal of clear copyright violations or content that unquestionably violates the non-free content policy (NFCC)." which is what I was doing. Please consider unblocking me and removing this unfair block from my record, and take action against the above user. RF23 (talk) 10:37, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Accept reason:

See below discussion Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:21, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Paging User:Ritchie333. This was a case of a user uploading a copyrighted photo, saying it's okay because "he gave the source" and repeatedly re including it despite explanations that that's not how copyright on wikipedia works. It appears he just randomly took a photo from the subject's instagram page and uploaded it. Also, he removed the speedy delete while logged out on commons.RF23 (talk) 10:40, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I blocked Jdweisner84 (and the block-evading IP) at the same time. I will unblock you if you promise not to edit this article again. In future, a notice on WP:BLPN is the best course of action. Expecting brand new users to understand our copyright policies is just not realistic, and belittling them about it unhelpful. (Specifically, WP:3RRNO says "What counts as exempt under NFCC can be controversial, and should be established as a violation first. Consider reporting to the Wikipedia:Files for discussion noticeboard instead of relying on this exemption.") Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I realize I probably could have handled that better, but it's very frustrating how much I've dealt with new users coming in and causing disruptions by uploading copyrighted files and not understanding why that's not acceptable. I've been here a while (as have you I'm sure) and I've seen that happen often. I'll stay away from the page for now.RF23 (talk) 11:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Understand completely and I think you were trying to do the right thing. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:44, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Limp Bizkit reverts

Hi. Regarding your AIV report, 103.202.148.52 (talk · contribs) has been making undiscussed changes that don't add much value to the article, but I don't think you can categorically prove they made them in a deliberate attempt to make Wikipedia worse. At the moment, nobody has violated any other policy such as WP:3RR so a block isn't really appropriate. I am tempted to block them for complete failure to discuss their changes but I want to try a direct message first. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:12, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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An unintended non redirect page was created by the two of us.....thanks ARMcgrath (talk) 00:56, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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Igorrr Article - pending review

Hi,

I wasn't going to drop this on your page until the draft had either been accepted or I'd concluded the review, but since it has clearly come to your notice I'll speed up my response.

Obviously my reviews don't normally last into the hours. I concluded my initial review in about 30 minutes, and have dropped a couple of messages with others. I've left it under review to avoid additional edits and altered consideration but I'll summarise my position as follows.

Out of a veritable hoard of references, the addition of which must have taken a considerable length of time post the last rejected draft, I came up with a group of 5 that covered the traditional sig cov etc set and actually pertained to Igorrr (not chickens, etc).

Usually I'd have happily passed it at that point, probably with a removal of some unhelpful sources, but given the fact that if it gets added and fails NPP or gets AfDed, it will be a massive nightmare for anyone to readd it, I've queried a couple of others.

I'll de-review it when I finish tonight so it's not stuck in a state of locked, but hopefully I should get a response in the next day.

Yours,

Nosebagbear (talk) 21:06, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I would appreciate it if you didn't comment on my efforts to review it, I suspect it does not help the discussions. If you are going to, if you think additional passing reasons should be noted, I think it is wise to note that you are a (the) primary content creator before accusations of COIs start being made, especially on the AfC's own review board. Nosebagbear (talk) 21:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Obviously there's a giant green box below, but I thought I'd drop my additional congrats to you for rebuilding it. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:01, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thanks for telling me I forgot to add a source. I will get to it right away. Sorry for any bother. It won’t happen again.

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You know how vandalism warning works right I need the one where you can strike down copyright photos I just need the page. Anyways thanks A.R.M. 09:38, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Most of theme are available through Twinkle, that's what I use for it, I haven't looked up an actual page to tag something or someone in a while, so I don't remember where most of them are.RF23 (talk) 09:54, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh okay.....see you Later A.R.M. 11:08, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

I think very soon I’ll try to get the GnR member page protected so that ip users don’t mess with it. I’m keeping my eyes on that page.....more clear from now on A.R.M. 03:42, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for thanks

After realising how pissed off I was after doing an edit that I thought made an article a fair bit more readable, and having it reverted in 1 minute;

I realised how “nice” I had felt after you thanked me for the (tiny) edit I did on 01Aug.

So... thanks. MBG02 (talk) 19:39, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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How do you nominate an article for deletion. A.R.M. 19:17, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

See WP:AFDHOW2 for instructions. RF23 (talk) 09:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I just get clumsy at remembering things A.R.M. 12:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hey man nice to chat again. I’ve been thinking about asking how to upload images through Flikr. I want to know how to get permission and use source for pages such as this one or something like this page anyways if you get the chance just explain how it works. I want to upload pics that we can use from other website. If you get the chance. Thanks and have a great day. A.R.M. 02:50, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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Just like to say cause your the first Wikipedian I’ve met and despite my selfishness and other crap I’ve caused, during my early days here. You helped me and I’ve gotten somewhere here thanks to you. Just like to send this to you as my Christmas Gift (YES I know I’m LATE) Accept this as a gift. And Happy New Year hope you enjoy it. A.R.M. 00:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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Man I somehow missed that entirely. Turns out my control+F was set to "match whole word" so it didn't came up with any results for "SES". Thanks for reverting me and pointing that out.RF23 (talk) 06:07, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hey it’s been a while but quick question are you actually allowed to upload a photo from Gettyimages? Anyways thanks. A.R.M. 20:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Depends on the license; but usually no. They're one of the stricter companies when it comes to copyright (they're actually the reason why Google changed their back-end to the image search a few years back where it used to link directly to an image but now it links to whatever page the image is on). Flickr is usually the best place to find free-to-use photos (a helpful guide is here as well as a tool to help with Flickr uploads.) RF23 (talk) 09:06, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks A.R.M. 12:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the source, much better now. Been trying to get the screamo tag off there for 10 years now. Sorry for the inconvenience, was just getting annoyed by it.Lesterklaassen (talk) 12:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

WWE 2K20

Hi Ringerfan23 , Do you think there will be a 2k20 this year. I don't I think 2K will just give us a WWE SmackDown! Here Comes The Pain remake.Just wanted to know your thoughts on it.😀 Tag-Mod 13 (talk) 04:47, 25 July 2019 (UTC) Tag-Mod 13 (talk) 04:51, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

They will never remake an old wrestling game, same reason why EA would never remake Madden 2004. There will definitely be a 2K20 this year, although its surprising they haven't officially announced it yet.RF23 (talk) 08:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

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"While it's very likely they're done; we'll need an actual reliable source stating it, not just speculation." The way the article's currently written seems to express that they're done at the end of the article's body. I have further comments on the talk page if you'd like. dannymusiceditor ^oops 00:43, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

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For someone who has such an extensive edit history on Wikipedia, I am surprised you do not know the rules of reliable sources yet. Yes Loud Wire is a reliable source on metal and metal news. But the article is pure speculation. Of course the new guy is Pfaff, it is obvious if you put all the pieces together, but that is not how reliable sources work on Wikipedia unfortunately. The same thing happened with Tobias Forge of Ghost. Everyone knew, but until it was officially announced, it couldn't be posted. Just relax, your life won't change because of this edit. NotAWikiLoser (talk) 04:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Wouldn't Loudwire saying "Yes this is who it is, we stand by the speculation" count as a reliable source stating it? Is there a policy I missed that states we can only have first person sourcing regarding claims?RF23 (talk) 23:06, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

The very quote you just used said everything you should need to know, "we stand by the speculation." No one from the band Slipknot has confirmed he is the new member, everything else is speculation because it has not been confirmed by any member of the band or any official spokesperson for the band. Like I said, yeah if you put all the pieces together it is obvious it is him, but until then, you cannot list him under official touring members. I personally don't have a problem if there is a note of it in the body of the article, as long is it is stated that it is speculation, but others might have a problem with that. NotAWikiLoser (talk) 20:40, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that by Loudwire reporting on the speculation, it's them reporting it, and they are a reliable source. I would assume (and I could be wrong) that this isn't just a blog style "here's what people think", they'd actually put a base amount of research into the claims to stand by them. I'm not understanding your objectivtiy to it on the grounds of "The band hasn't reported it", as that is not a sourcing requirement on wiki as far as I'm aware. Anothe reliable source Altpress has reported on it as well. I know that both Jay & Alessandro were included in the article several months before the band revealed their identities (and that section of the article still has large parts related to their being specualtion on it & sources reporting who they were before the band announced it.

Would something along the lines of "Tortilla man's identity has not been announced [or keep with the "has been concealed"] by the band, but Louwdire reports his identity to be Micheal Pfaff, previously a member of Crahan's Dirty Little Rabbits." work?RF23 (talk) 23:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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I was undoing a singular edit and unintentionally reverted to a much older revision. It was sloppiness on my part, I’ll be more aware in the future. RF23 (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)