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Hi fellow Wikipedians... is it true that the North South line and the East West line have different gauges? That's what the article (and linked ones to the specific lines) seems to say. That seems odd to me, but I wasn't able to confirm or deny it with the sources provided. Thanks! ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 20:00, 27 September 2023 (UTC) |
Hi fellow Wikipedians... is it true that the North South line and the East West line have different gauges? That's what the article (and linked ones to the specific lines) seems to say. That seems odd to me, but I wasn't able to confirm or deny it with the sources provided. Thanks! ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 20:00, 27 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:Not true. No explanation or confirmation have been released so far by the PT MRT Jakarta (Perseroda) on any channels. I don't know who is the persistent anonymous editor (their IP address comes from South Tangerang, Indonesia), but everytime we revert not to include the speculative information of 1.435 mm rail gauge, they also always reverted it to include that speculative information. It's been like this for many years and the persistent anonymous user is so persistent that they checked if any reverts are made everyday, and whenever someone reverts not to include the speculative information, they always come back. I think it's time for admins to protect this article from anonymous editing permanently, so everyone have to be registered to Wikipedia in order to edit. Anyways, since the phase III is also funded by the |
:Not true. No explanation or confirmation have been released so far by the PT MRT Jakarta (Perseroda) on any channels. I don't know who is the persistent anonymous editor (their IP address comes from South Tangerang, Indonesia), but everytime we revert not to include the speculative information of 1.435 mm rail gauge, they also always reverted it to include that speculative information. It's been like this for many years and the persistent anonymous user is so persistent that they checked if any reverts are made everyday, and whenever someone reverts not to include the speculative information, they always come back. I think it's time for admins to protect this article from anonymous editing permanently, so everyone have to be registered to Wikipedia in order to edit. Anyways, since the phase III is also funded by the Korea, my speculative mind says that it will also be 1.435 mm gauge. There is, however, a KOICA's open report on the feasibility study for the route clearly says that the route will use 1.435 mm gauge as they wamt to construct an interrunning service in Thamrin station, so trains from East-West line can go to Lebak Bulus station. I've added that to the article, but I don't know if it was the correct file or not. You can search about the report on KOICA's open report website by the way. [[User:Muhammad Pascal Fajrin|Muhammad Pascal Fajrin]] ([[User talk:Muhammad Pascal Fajrin|talk]]) 07:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::Also, this persistent anonymous user has edited my above reply and replaced 1.067 mm with 1.435 mm, and JICA with KOICA (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jakarta_MRT&oldid=1215132941). So they made a false claim using my words. Of course, whoever they are, it's very discouraged to do so. To this persistent anonymous user from South Tangerang, Indonesia, please, if you have a problem with me and everyone, send me your number and we'll talk in WhatsApp or we meet in real life. I challenge you, and if you dare, you will send me your number. Please. [[User:Muhammad Pascal Fajrin|Muhammad Pascal Fajrin]] ([[User talk:Muhammad Pascal Fajrin|talk]]) 23:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::A warning to you, anonymous from South Tangerang. Send me your number, we'll talk. [[User:Muhammad Pascal Fajrin|Muhammad Pascal Fajrin]] ([[User talk:Muhammad Pascal Fajrin|talk]]) 03:28, 24 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Moda Raya Terpadu
Note to editors: The official abbreviation of MRT used by the company is Moda Raya Terpadu.[1] Juxlos (talk) 14:46, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- ^ "Anies aims to make local language 'great again'". The Jakarta Post. Retrieved 30 March 2019.
Jakarta MRT is the fifth in South East Asia.
This is about the paragraph in which Jakarta MRT was mentioned as being the fourth in South East Asia. I recently edited it to fifth to include Manila's LRT system. Note that Manila's LRT is the oldest in South East Asia being completed in 1984.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_Light_Rail_Transit_System
The history of South East Asia's rapid transit system timeline goes as
Manila LRT - 1984 Singapore MRT - 1987 Rapid KL - 1996 Bangkok BTS - 1999 Jakarta MRT - 2009
To revert it back to fourth is ignorance.
Themanilaxperience (talk) 01:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- If Manila's LRT is counted, so should Palembang's LRT. Juxlos (talk) 07:09, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Kuala Lumpur’s first rapid transit line, The Ampang Line is actually a light metro system no different from Manila’s LRT-1, but was included.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampang_and_Sri_Petaling_lines
So why should Manila be excluded? Manila’s LRT is more a light metro system as it functions more as a rapid transit system than light rail due to system classification including right of way. In fact LRT-2 (line-2) is even classified as a heavy rail system.
I’m not familiar with Palembang’s LRT network so I can’t comment on that or should decide on including this issue.
Themanilaxperience (talk) 08:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Fox for route map template.
Please fix. M nurhaikal (talk) 16:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
East-West line
An anonymous account, possibly related to M taufik nur rohim (see my talk in idwp) is persistently adding unreferenced materials for future Jakarta MRT projects, i.e. the East–West line. According to JMRT principals, there was no detailed information about the project nor its gauge chosen. See Special:Diff/1041773261 for the edit. RaFaDa20631 (talk) 12:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Based on the IP lookup on whatsmyIP, the person indeed is Indonesian. The material the anonymous account confidently wrote is that East-West Line will use standard gauge (1,435 mm) while there are no single sources, even from Jakarta MRT company itself, says so. Thus material can be challenged, but this anonymous account persistently reverting the article if the "usage of standard gauge" material is deleted. -Muhammad Pascal Fajrin (talk) 12:54, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Gauges
Hi fellow Wikipedians... is it true that the North South line and the East West line have different gauges? That's what the article (and linked ones to the specific lines) seems to say. That seems odd to me, but I wasn't able to confirm or deny it with the sources provided. Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 20:00, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not true. No explanation or confirmation have been released so far by the PT MRT Jakarta (Perseroda) on any channels. I don't know who is the persistent anonymous editor (their IP address comes from South Tangerang, Indonesia), but everytime we revert not to include the speculative information of 1.435 mm rail gauge, they also always reverted it to include that speculative information. It's been like this for many years and the persistent anonymous user is so persistent that they checked if any reverts are made everyday, and whenever someone reverts not to include the speculative information, they always come back. I think it's time for admins to protect this article from anonymous editing permanently, so everyone have to be registered to Wikipedia in order to edit. Anyways, since the phase III is also funded by the Korea, my speculative mind says that it will also be 1.435 mm gauge. There is, however, a KOICA's open report on the feasibility study for the route clearly says that the route will use 1.435 mm gauge as they wamt to construct an interrunning service in Thamrin station, so trains from East-West line can go to Lebak Bulus station. I've added that to the article, but I don't know if it was the correct file or not. You can search about the report on KOICA's open report website by the way. Muhammad Pascal Fajrin (talk) 07:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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