Talk:Zen 5

Links

Here the links to some articles about Zen 5:

• https://www.anandtech.com/show/14419/amd-confirms-zen-4-epyc-codename-and-elaborates-frontier-cpu
• https://www.anandtech.com/show/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome
• https://www.notebookcheck.net/Next-next-gen-Zen-5-architecture-is-already-in-development-confirms-AMD.439837.0.html
• https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-3-launching-2020-zen-4-zen-5-in-development/
• https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_5

--Soluvo (talk) 03:04, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Ryzen 8000 series?

I was just browsing, and the article says that the Ryzen 8000 series CPUs will use this architecture but, upon clicking the link, I see that AMD has used that product line for something else and assume that this article is outdated. I don't know the answer. 2600:8806:3500:60B0:ED65:B8D3:B772:8A2C (talk) 01:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it could be possible that Zen 5 desktop processors (Granite Ridge) will be called Ryzen 9000 series, given that AMD is already using the Ryzen 8000 moniker for its Zen 4-based APUs currently. I found three new sources which concur with Zen 5 desktop being called Ryzen 9000,[1][2][3] but one source seems to state the contrary could be possible too.[4] — AP 499D25 (talk) 02:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Codename?

It confuses me that all the Zen X articles starts with "Zen X is the codename for ...". Its not a codename, its the name of the CPU Architecture.

Is there any specific reason why these sentences would remain refering to the architecture real name as the "codename"?

AMD only uses codenames for the products AKA Granite Ridge -> Ryzen 9000, Strix Point -> Ryzen AI, etc. TagKnife (talk) 14:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I have changed the wording referencing the architecture name as the codename. TagKnife (talk) 23:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Actually yeah that does make sense, "Raphael" and "Strix Point" are actual codenames, but Zen 5? I don't know if AMD calls that a codename. However, it's worth pointing out all the Intel CPU architecture articles say "codename" in the lead too, for example Golden Cove. So maybe this is some consistency thing carried from the competitors' architecture articles.

Another idea: old AMD architecture articles like Bulldozer don't mention "name" or "codename" in the lead, they just say "[name] is a microarchitecture by AMD". — AP 499D25 (talk) 00:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Yea Intel uses codenames for their architecture and product lines, they also dont make any public announcements about their architecture, only products, where as AMD likes to talk about their architecture along side their products. TagKnife (talk) 00:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

I have also gone through previous Zen X articles and removed the codename term, refencing this talk page. TagKnife (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh I see, I do notice that.

Thanks for your corrections! — AP 499D25 (talk) 04:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I still feel like the introduction sentence can be worded better for what zen 5 is.

Example: Zen 5 is the 5th generation of AMD's Zen CPU Microarchitecture being used the there upcoming CPUs ... cont TagKnife (talk) 10:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Release date

The current release date listed is inaccurate. The reference talks about "July 2024", not July 31st. I am unable to find an accurate source for the release date. 83.243.159.183 (talk) 09:38, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Its a placeholder. Because the date template requires a day, we puit 31st to to basically capture the whole month. Once a date is fully released we can update the day. TagKnife (talk) 21:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

There are already a number of sources out there saying that it will likely release on 31 July, for example this one.

Also note that according to some latest sources, "Strix Point" may be releasing several days or several weeks earlier than the desktop processors, e.g. source 1, source 2. According to that Notebookcheck source, looks like Ryzen AI 300 will launch on 17 July in China first, followed by a worldwide release on 28 July. — AP 499D25 (talk) 00:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Zen 5 Threadripper 9000

Threadripper 9000 has been spotting in benchmarks, if anyone would like to add details to the page, I currently dont have time.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-threadripper-9000-shimada-peak-cpu-surfaces-in-shipping-manifest-next-gen-zen-5-hedt-chip-sports-96-cores-and-192-threads

https://x.com/Olrak29_/status/1828302157264887890 TagKnife (talk) 00:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)