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Help

Hi. I'm just wondering what the basic requirements are for being an administrator. Since you you seem to know much on the subject, I've decided to ask a few questions that I hope you may be able to answer (I had a recent unsuccessful RfA)

• How many edits do you recommend? Is 1000 enough?
• What should I do to gain support?

I have other questions, but I don't want to give you too much right now.

Astroview120mm 05:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

There isn't a fixed amount of edits that is recommended. What is more important than edit count is experience. Participating in various deletion discussions, working to improve the quality of our articles... stuff like that shows that you've got good grasp of how things work around here. If you really want an edit-count baseline, my RfA passed when I had 9100 edits (and I've now got just under 21k). In addition to the links I provided you when I closed your RfA, I'd recommend checking out some of the recent successful RfAs to get an even better idea of what is and is not expected of administrator candidates. If you've got anymore questions, feel free to ask me. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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vandal question

Hi, I want some help with starting to deal with vandalism and I think your an admin that's interested in vandalism, so I'm asking you. If not, please just tell me and I'll go find someone else. I just found this diff and I posted a vandal warning at the editors talk page. Did I select the right warning, am I supposed to do anything else? Thanks in advance for any advice. Pdbailey 19:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I watch EVula's page. Looks fine to me. You can mark reversions as minor edits, but I often forget. Your addition of a comment to the standard "Undo" summary was helpful. You gave {{uw-v2}} for a first instance, which I think can be ok although you can also start with {{uw-v1}}. The only thing I'd do differently is say which template you left in the edit summary. I literally say "v2" or "vand2". It's helpful in case the user blanks his warnings, it's easy to see what they've received by looking at the talk page history. Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 19:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips Flyguy649, I was using the guidance in Wikipedia:Vandalism, specifically the text next to the warning templates, but it sounds like I should start with 1, then do 2, et cetera? Pdbailey 23:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I do start with level 2 frequently. It's a judgement call, but if you don't think the edit was in good faith, level two is fine. However, you may get a difference in opinion on this. I'd probably have used level 1 in this case, but I don't think the difference is a big deal. I probably give level 2 on some days for vandalism that I'd give a level 1 to on others. As long as you aren't vastly over warning --e.g., level 3 here wouldn't have been appropriate. I guess if you have any doubt that level 2 is correct, start with level 1. But look at the contributions of the person before you warn. If it's a marginal level 2 and they're in the middle of a spree, go with the level 2. I don't know if that clarifies it at all! Feel free to ask more. -- Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 03:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

re: hungry goats

Okay – sounds fine to me. I semiprotected mountain goat after rolling back one person who took their humor there. I was knitting, then I saw the joke, said, "oh, crap," opened my PowerBook, and 12 anon IPs had _already_ hit the article, all in the space of about 20 seconds. I was in Florida during the Colbert thing last summer but wasn't an admin then. Hopefully this dies down sooner, but that's not likely until at least Wednesday morning, because they'll rerun this show several times Tuesday morning and evening. Thanks for watching out for me! :-) - KrakatoaKatie 04:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Image formatting

I asked Flyguy about image formatting, I was told you would know more about it, then I met a bunch of new people hehe. Anyhow, I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of some sort of help page for the format and layout of images. I have been contributing images but have just been mimicking the formatting code of the other images. Thanks. Wordless symbol 15:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by "image formatting"? I'd love to help out, but I need to make sure of what you're talking about before giving out advice. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment on Temlpate:resolved

If you have a moment, would you mind commenting on this thread, which you had participated in before and which is now open again. [1] — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up; it had indeed slipped past me. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Betacommand 2

Thanks for your imput at WP:BN. Everything seems to be OK. Thanks again.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I did not know that below 50% equated to WP:SNOW. I always thought that it would have to be 0/5/1/, 0/10/5, or something like that.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all of the help!--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

You would make a great bureaucrat canadate! I'm aware there is this one year standard for bureaucrat canadates, but I think in that time, you would be more than qualified for the job.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 22:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I've already made an attempt at an RfB, but it fell a bit short. I'm hoping to re-run at some point either later this year or early next (really it just depends on when I feel I'm ready to try again; I'm certainly busy enough without the added workload of being a 'crat). Thanks for the support. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: no userfied interwikis

Don't the bots get confused or something and add more of those if they're already there? It isn't against any rules to remove them from user subpages anyway, is there? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

No, as the bots don't stumble across the userfied pages (besides, they generally don't keep track of how many articles they've found, plus they generally don't check for interwikis in the user namespace).
There aren't rules per se about removing them (one way or another), but there's no reason (as opposed to commenting out Fair Use images and categories) for you to do anything to them. If someone was working on an article in their userspace and someone suddenly commented out perfectly valid content, I'd certainly understand it if they got pissed about it (which is reason enough not to do it, in my estimation). EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Understood. However, the user is still breaking policy by re re-placing those fair use images and article space categories on the subpages, see TimySmidge's contributions. I reverted them (again), but could you assist in keeping an eye on him/her and undo them and warn the user if neccessary? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely, that is a problem. I'll keep any eye on his contributions, and drop him a note if he continues. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Much appreciated. And since you're a sysop I have a request: since a name like Elvis forwards to Elvis Presley per popular name, can you move Tupac to Tupac (disambiguation) and have Tupac redirect to Tupac Shakur per the same case? I see no grounds of a discussion needed in this matter, so may you perform this simple task? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh boy, now I know why the name looks familiar; I closed his RfA per WP:SNOW, and have had to revert his attempts at removing it from the failed RfA page. Looks like this may have gotten a bit more interesting...
Hmm, the Tupac bit is a bit more complicated, in my opinion. Check out the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves; you could probably gain consensus for it on the talk page of Tupac. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, what do we have hear (I'm angry), I private conversation about me?! YOU EVIL PEOPLE!! I HATE YOU ALL!! SHUT UP ABOUT ME!! (I'm really mad) --TimySmidge 20:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Click there to open your card! → → →

Dearest EVula,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 96 supports, 1 oppose, and 3 neutrals. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. I'm a new admin remember, so if you have any suggestions feel free to inform me of them. I would like to give a special shout out to Hirohisat, Wizardman, and Husond, for there original co-nominations. Thank you once again and good day.

Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor

Credits

This RFA thanks was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunatly this is not entirely my own design.

oooh, pretty... EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

Okay then. I will hit you up for a question. What is the biggest problem I will probably face as a new admin? --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 12:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

People getting pissed off at you for doing your job. Lots of people have their own ideas about how things should be done, and will get upset if you correct them (such as POV-pushers, vandals, and spammers). Welcome to the party... ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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Go ahead and...

... delete those subpages by TimySmidge (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), if you'd like. He hasn't responded so he apparently doesn't care about a violation. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that he'd been active since the last time people had left him messages. I'll do it later today (I'm about to head out to work right now, and I'd feel silly about showing up late because of him...). EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi EVula, this is a reminder in case you forgot to delete those subpages. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

KDR's SSP report

Do you think it would be wise to delete Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Kyle.died.rich? I was mistaken in reporting him, and I do not wish the mere existence of an SSPR to stain his record. J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 15:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I think so. If you want it gone, just let me know, and I'll remove it under G7. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It would be for the best. I've blanked and tagged it for G7. J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 15:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Voila, I just deleted it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 15:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you unblock User:Kyle.died.rich? he was autoblocked, when he has proven that he hasn't done anything wrong. J-ſtan^Talk_Contribs 00:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like someone else has gotten it. Groovy. EVula // talk // ☯ // 02:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

EVula, thanks again for your spirited and welcome defense. You articulated what I wanted to say much better than I could have and that support means a lot to me. Thank you.--Chaser - T 06:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure. It always irks me to see admins get harassment just for doing the job; "threatening" a block is just a part of what we have to do, and getting flak for it is absurd. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Info

You put a short block on User:190.129.118.1 - according to Wikipedia:Open proxy detection it is an open proxy - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

...I hate to admit it, but I've got absolutely zilch experience dealing with open proxies. I've given an indefinite block with "Block anonymous users only" and "Prevent account creation" checked, and subst:ed {{blocked proxy}} on their talk page. Is that it? EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Mail :) --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I'm not being called a fema... oh, wait, nevermind. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Walk t'plank!

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Did you read my message?

I tried reminding you, but it seems you accidentally skipped it. Well, those subpages by TimySmidge will have to be deleted now. Or would you prefer that I tag them with {{speedy}} beforehand? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I did indeed forget to do it. As soon as I wrap up what I'm working on now, I'll take those pages out. Thanks for the reminder. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Voila, pages deleted, user informed of their deletion. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm watching this user BTW in case he/she does it again. I'll let you know of anything. Happy editing! Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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I'm not sure if I'll be home by 8:30, but I'll try to make it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Humour

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For this great edit summary. Got me LOL. Garion96 (talk) 19:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I hate it when I use a funny edit summary and nobody sees it... makes the ones that are seen all the sweeter. Thanks for the barnstar. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

're welcome. Your seventh good humour barnstar? Geez, I thought I was being original here. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm just a funny guy, what can I say? ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Good faith

Actually, I was warning them for their last edit, and as I looked through their edit history, I ran across the I hope you die comment, and went to WP:AIV to report it, and it got deleted right away because you had already taken care of them.  :) Corvus cornix 20:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, it's fun when everybody is doing the same things at the same time. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering the comments in those edits, I have requested on WP:ANI that User:Burgz33 be indef. blocked. Corvus cornix 20:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Eh? Where's the tie between the Burgz and the IP? EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The IP is claiming to be vandalizing the User pages in order to prove to them that they can't keep Burgz33 blocked. Corvus cornix 21:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, figures. I didn't even read the entire thing. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for removing the vandalism/"hope you die" bit from my talk page. Cheers.--Yankees76 23:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Collection of insults...

That's comedic gold! Collection of threats... sort of morbid. How do you attract these sick freaks? LaraLove 23:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Pretty easy method: liberal application of WP:BOLD to my administrative habits. :)
And, to be fair, a good number of the threats are from this one particular sockdrawer that I somehow got drawn into, so they could have been done more for effect than out of actual anger (though the person was clearly off their rocker to begin with). I do love that section of my userpage, though... if I ever retire from Wikipedia, I'm stripping my userpage down to nothing but a goodbye notice and the insult collection. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Mind if I but in? Those threats are disturbing as well, I've read Jimbo's comments on it; and I agree if you want to keep them up, they're a good read! Phgao 06:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, EVula! Yeah, they set it up Saturday (the day after we moved in), and 3 service calls later, we finally got it working (today, Thursday). I was honestly dying. I don't think one can realize how addicted he/she is to Wikipedia, or the internet in general, until it is not readily available. It was death.  hmwith  talk 17:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I had no clue how much I used the internet. I even had applications that used the internet that I didn't even know used it... and took others for granted. Not knowing what the weather was like for the next week, or what was on the radar, or what traffic was like with just the flick of a button was maddening. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
(incidentally, this is my 666th edit of my talk page. creepy...)

Mistake

You have a mistake in deletion. I am attempting to change these, but I haven't gotten around to it. Please restore them. By the way, they're Dragon Ball articles, not Dragon Ball Z. --TimySmidge 20:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm in tears

I was on TTN's talk page, and you were talking about me. I came here to give a message (this one), when I saw you talking about me. I'm scared and in tears. People are talking about me behind my back and no one's told me. Please keep me in touch. Also, don't ever call me Smidge again. If your going to nickname me, call me "Timmy" (TimySmidge is short for TimmySmidge, my short name and my nickname). --TimySmidge 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)