Wikipedia:Requested moves

For requested mergers, see Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. For removals, see Wikipedia:Guide to deletion.

Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

• Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
• Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
• A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
• A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
• Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

• Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
• Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
• Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
• Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

• No article exists at the new target title;
• There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
• It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

Incomplete and contested proposals

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

• Fuzzy Logic (Powerpuff Girls episode) → Fuzzy Logic — No disambig exists/there is only one "Fuzzy Logic" — Paper Luigi ^{Talk • Contributions} 17:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

  Fuzzy Logic redirects to fuzzy logic, which is just as (if not more) notable than the Powerpuff Girls episode. The disambiguator is necessary. Xnux the Echidna 17:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Society for Compilation of Korean History → Agency for Editing of Korean History: very first original title name was a "Agency for Editing of Korean History". however, this title name chaged suddenly without any consesuns.[1] illgeal mover said, 編修 means "compile" only. but this is not true. in Korea, 編修 means most commony used as "edit[2] for example, 편수관(編修官) an 'editorial officer;an (official) editor'. 편수원(編修員) is 'the editorial staff member' Manacpowers (talk) 02:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 03:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Primera División de México → Primera División Profesional — because it is tthe official name of the league and Premira Division de Mexico does not sound right, and with Profesional it sounds more Profesional, an example would be that La Liga from Spain is not called Primera Division de España --  $\sim$ Kaka12o (  ) 18:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 05:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Other proposals

6 September 2008

• Hurricane Ike (2008) → Hurricane Ike —(Discuss)— This page should be moved to Hurricane Ike. Just as Hurricane Gustav. There is no need for the ...(2008) for now. --— Navy  Blue  23:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• On the Life of the Caesars → The Twelve Caesars —(Discuss)— The current title is the direct translation. However "The Twelve Caesars" is widely used by current English-speaking academia and scholarship. One can verify this fact by counting the links towards the article (OK this isn't proper evidence, but then this isn't exactly a court of law :) --19:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)Flamarande (talk)

• Basque Country (historical territory) → Euskal Herria —(Discuss)— The current title's parenthesis is misleading and the title without parenthesis is taken (and ambiguous). This article is/should be about a concept, not a "historical territory", see the Spanish Wiki for a similar solution. This proposal stems from discussions about problems in the article's content and "info"box over the last few days. It might be useful for those interested in the move request to read those debate threads first. --Srnec (talk) 18:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Copito de Nieve → Floquet de Neu —(Discuss)— The article was moved to its current name by an admin, based only on a Google Test. The admin subsequently move-protected the page to prevent anyone from moving it back to the correct name. This ape has always been officially named in Catalan, was discovered by a Catalan primatologist, and lived most of its life in a zoo whose working language is Catalan. Even if there existed no Catalan name, the English name should be used (Snowflake). Therefore, I request that the article be moved to Floquet de Neu, which is its correct name. --Leptictidium (mt) 15:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Battle of Hurtgen Forest → Battle of Hürtgen Forest —(Discuss)— The present name violates Wikipedia style for treatment of foreign words with diacritics --PKKloeppel (talk) 13:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Willem II Tilburg → Willem II (football club) —(Discuss)— The name of the town, Tilburg, is only in the name of the company behind the club. The club itself is called Willem II, it is registered with the relevant associations as Willem II and it is known by the public as Willem II. See for instance the club website Willem-II.nl, the club information on the official Eredivisie website, the club information on the UEFA website and the club information on the Voetbal International website. --Aecis·(away) ^talk 12:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer → El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer (The Mysterious Voyage of Homer) —(Discuss)— This is the official title of episode, as the Official site shows. However, I thought it best to have a discussion as this page's title has been an issue before. --Gran² 10:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Mike Jensen (footballer) → Mike Jensen —(Discuss)— Mike Jensen just redirect to this article. Move as there is no disambigution --kalaha 10:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Raglan → Raglan, New Zealand —(Discuss)— The small New Zealand town is not significantly more notable than many of the other entries on Raglan (disambiguation) --dramatic (talk) 08:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

• Giovanni di Stefano → Giovanni Di Stefano —(Discuss)— Capitalization preferred by the subject of the article, sources use both capitalizations interchangeably. See archived discussion where nobody raised any issues. --Enric Naval (talk) 01:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

5 September 2008

• Risk Management Plan → Risk management plan —(Discuss)— Capitalization --Leo Laursen – ✍ ⌘ 08:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• Kačanik → Kaçanik —(Discuss)— Due to the new status and the majority population -- CD 06:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• Attractive Nuisance → Attractive Nuisance (album) —(Discuss)— Attractive Nuisance is a legal concept, borrowed for the title of a record album. The primary article should be the legal concept, with a disambiguation link to the album --Paul Foxworthy (talk) 03:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats → Chocolate Tea Cakes —(Discuss)— I am proposing that we change the name of 'Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats' to 'Chocolate Teacakes. The name is abit daft and to biased towards an American spelling. When I googled Chocolate Tea cakes, I got 506,000 results. But when I googled Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats, I only got 2,320 results. So would it not make sense to rename it 'Chocolate Tea Cakes'? Its much more relevant. --Teacake Martyr (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• In Search of Sunrise: North American Summer Tour 2008 → In Search of Sunrise: Summer Tour 2008 —(Discuss)— The tour does not involve only North America, the tour includes Europe as a leg of the tour and therefore it should be changed to a more broad title. Rather than creating a new article titled "In Search of Sunrise: European Summer Tour 2008", it is better for both articles to be included together but first the title must be changed in order to add the new information on the European leg --Lonelysoulq (talk) 21:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

4 September 2008

• Altamont Motorsports Park → Altamont Raceway Park —(Discuss)— New name of the track per Track website. --Gateman1997 (talk) 23:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
• Devil Summoner → Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner —(Discuss)— Change to complete title. Currently Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner is just a redirect, so it won't affect a lot if anything. --SharkD (talk) 23:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

• GC17 → Gold Coast Football Club —(Discuss)— Official club name now announced --The-Pope (talk) 12:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

• Decline of the Roman Empire → Fall of the Roman Empire —(Discuss)— Per WP:Name, this is the most common name. Already agreed on by consensus in talk page discussion. --Carl.bunderson (talk) 07:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

• International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia → International Reaction to the Independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia‎ —(Discuss)— We agreed on talk page that the original should be split in two. I've already made a page for International Recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia‎ and now we need this page moved to avoid confusion. Thank you!

• The split being discussed is into "reaction to" and "recognition of". I don't see consensus for such a split on the talk page - and I don't think it's a good idea. The two concepts seem completely intertwined to me. If there were a clear consensus, I'd say 'try it', we can always merge later if it doesn't work. But lacking consensus, I don't think it's a good idea. Regards, Ben Aveling 22:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

• Shuttle: the Space Flight Simulator (Virgin game) → Shuttle (game) —(Discuss)— The phrase, "the Space Flight Simulator" is just a subtitle/tagline for the game, not its actual name. --—/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 00:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

• 1977 Tenerife KLM-Pan Am 747 runway collision → Tenerife airport disaster —(Discuss)— partially fix a previous undiscussed move. Move over redirect required --MickMacNee (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

• There's not uniform agreement on dropping out the year on this proposed title. Several, including me, prefer 1977 Tenerife airport disaster. See the talk pages of the article for details. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 06:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

3 September 2008

• Woodstock → Woodstock (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— Primary topic identified. Request for current page to be moved to dab page with Woodstock becoming a redirect to Woodstock Festival --Viriditas (talk) 23:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• EuroBasket 2005 Women → EuroBasket Women 2005 - (Discuss) — consistensy with names of similar articles — Nitsansh (talk) 20:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Diocletianic Persecution → Great Persecution —(Discuss)— Nowhere (outside Wikipedia) is the term "Diocletianic Persecution" in wide use. Most reliable sources use the term "Great Persecution" to define the matter for study. Not all of Diocletian's persecutions are covered by the subject matter of the "Great Persecution" as traditionally defined. Not all persecutions covered by the subject matter of the "Great Persecution" as traditionally defined are strictly 'Diocletianic'. --Geuiwogbil (Talk) 16:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Siemens AG → Siemens —(Discuss)— The company's brand name is Siemens, the "AG" just means that it is a publicly listed company, and shouldn't be part of the article's name --Axt (talk) 10:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Hugo Boss AG → Hugo Boss —(Discuss)— The company's brand name is Hugo Boss, the "AG" just means that it is a publicly listed company, and shouldn't be part of the article's name --Axt (talk) 10:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Every Second Counts (game show) → Every Second Counts (UK game show) —(Discuss)— To remove confusion arising from current disambiguation arrangements, there being another page Every Second Counts (US game show). Should be uncontroversial, but just in case there is some other reason for the current arrangment. --Neonumbers (talk) 09:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Twin Tower (disambiguation) → Twin Towers —(Discuss)— Moving disambiguation page back to main title per WP:DAB. --Trystan (talk) 06:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

2 September 2008

• Meleke → Jerusalem stone - (Discuss) - This page name was changed to an Arabic name. Jerusalem stone is the common English name and in accordance with Wikipedia policy on common names for commonly discussed stones. See: Manhattan schist, Puddingstone and Indiana Limestone. Jerusalem stone is the name used in tens of thousands of books and articles. Mekele is a foreign word scarcely used in English.Elan26 (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)Elan26

• Fictional film → Fiction film —(Discuss)—As seen at the archive, a long and rancorous debate closed with no consensus. The main objection IMHO was that the literature uses the term "fictional film" to mean "a film that is a work of fiction" and that the OED apparently doesn't list "fiction" as having use as an adjective. However, as the main objector himself acknowledged, both the terms "fiction film" and "fictional film" are used in the literature, including my the co-author of the book to which he pointed as definitive. That the OED does or doesn't note contemporary usage of the word "fiction" is not relevant, as common sense tells us that the word is used as an adjective in ordinary English usage. "Fictional" used to mean "contained within a work of fiction" is in widespread if not overwhelming usage across Wikipedia, with no fewer than 5,526 resultsin category names alone. Of particular note is Category:Fictional films, which collects articles on films that exist only within other works of fiction. By contrast, the Category:Fiction structure (including Category:Fiction books, a usage of which the objector claimed never to have heard before) deals with works of fiction. Clearly, maintaining this article at its current title is in conflict with a number of usage conventions within Wikipedia. Moving it resolves the ambiguity, allows for the creation of an article about fictional films should someone care to write one and brings the article in line with how things are done throughout the project. --Otto4711 (talk) 18:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• Sui Generis → Sui Generis (band) —(Discuss)— per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(precision)#Minor_spelling_variations, the article should be renamed to avoid confusion with Sui generis (small g). — supernorton 09:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC) --supernorton 09:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

1 September 2008

• Joseon Dynasty → Joseon —(Discuss)— Analogously to Goryeo, because the usage of the term "Joseon" throughout is confusing with a title like "Joseon Dynasty" (to English speakers), and Joseon redirects here. --Srnec (talk) 22:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

• Rudolph I of Germany → Rudolph of Habsburg —(Discuss)— "Like Philip of Swabia, we should call the "Kings of the Romans" what most historians actually call them." –User:Pmanderson, --Srnec (talk) 05:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I am listing this move on behalf of the quoted user, since it was formally proposed at the talk page but not listed here. Srnec (talk) 05:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

• 7.62 Tkiv 85 → 7.62 TKIV 85 —(Discuss)— The Finnish Defence Forces use the 7.62 TKIV 85 nomenclature for this rifle. — Francis Flinch (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed (September 17 or older).

• St Pancras railway station → ? —(Discuss)— I think the time has come to seek external input on whether the name of this station should include "London" and/or "International" —Tevildo (talk) 19:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

• Tetяis: The Soviet Mind Game → Tetris: The Soviet Mind Game —(Discuss)— MOS:TM states that "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". --Mika1h (talk) 19:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

• Bachelor of Computer Science → Bachelor of Science in Computer Science —(Discuss)— Wikipedia article naming policy is to use the most well-known name, and the most well-known name according to Google is the proposed new title. --NerdyNSK (talk) 14:24, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

• Drukpa → Drukpa Kagyu — (Discuss)- The most common use of the word Drukpa is for "the People of Bhutan" a "Bhutanese person" or "Bhutanese" whereas the religious school is properly called "Drukpa Kagyu" in all academic sources and in most sources in Tibetan and Dzongkha languages. Chris Fynn (talk) 21:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

• Pilsen → Plzeň —(Discuss)— Current, more common name of this Czech city, "Pilsen" has fallen in disuse since the Germans left the city after World War II. --Húsönd 17:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)