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The Byzantine historian Procopius, who accompanied the general Belisarius in the Gothic War employed his nom de guerre "Totila": his real name, which can be seen from the coinage he issued, was Baduila.

Is Totila really a different name from Baduila? Isn't it just an attempt by Procopius to represent "Baduila" in Greek? john k 07:03, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wolfram's History of the Goths (p. 353), "we do not know what 'Totila' signifies", while his "real name must have been Baduila-Badua", which "means 'the fighter' or 'the warrior'". Stan 12:19, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Amory 1997 regards these as two distinct names, though he doesn't say that the latter was the 'real' name or even the 'official' name. Jacob Haller 03:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Totila was killed at the Battle of Taginae? Not sure:

"Totila and five horsemen are caught up by Asbad the Gepid chief. Asbad puts his lance in rest, not knowing who was before him. 'Dog,' cries Totila's page, 'wilt thou strike thy lord?' But it is too late. Asbad's lance goes through his back and he drops on his horse's neck. Scipwar (Shipward) the Goth wounds Asbad, and falls wounded himself. The rest carry off Totila. He dies that night, after reigning eleven stormy years." (from http://www.northvegr.org/lore/teuton/006_02.php). -- G. Calabria (talk) 01:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Totila, killed in action

Totila was not killed in action. He fled, was pursued, and he died of his wounds at Caprae (Procopius). The Gothic charge failed, Narses drew his straight line of troops into a crescent, and the short battle ended in the utter rout of the Goths, Totila flying from the field. In that flight one Asbad a Gepid struck at him and fatally wounded him. He was borne by his companions to the village of Caprae, more than twelve miles away, and there he died… (Edward Gibbon). Sirius2044 (talk) 21:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 "Totila and five horsemen are caught up by Asbad the Gepid chief. Asbad puts his lance in rest, not knowing who was before him. 'Dog,' cries Totila's page, 'wilt thou strike thy lord?' But it is too late. Asbad's lance goes through his back and he drops on his horse's neck. Scipwar (Shipward) the Goth wounds Asbad, and falls wounded himself. The rest carry off Totila. He dies that night, after reigning eleven stormy years." (from http://www.northvegr.org/lore/teuton/006_02.php). -- [[User:Geoffrey Calabria|G. Calabria]] ([[User talk:Geoffrey Calabria|talk]]) 01:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
+== Totila, killed in action ==
+Totila was not killed in action. He fled, was pursued, and he died of his wounds at Caprae (Procopius). ''The Gothic charge failed, Narses drew his straight line of troops into a crescent, and the short battle ended in the utter rout of the Goths, Totila flying from the field. In that flight one Asbad a Gepid struck at him and fatally wounded him. He was borne by his companions to the village of Caprae, more than twelve miles away, and there he died…'' (Edward Gibbon). [[User:Sirius2044|Sirius2044]] ([[User talk:Sirius2044|talk]]) 21:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)