User talk:Ultraexactzz

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I have apologized

Sorry; never again. That got emotional. I did apologize. Noncanonical (talk) 21:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anónimo Consejo

Hello Ultra, I have completely rewritten this article and would appreciate it if you would take another look at the AfD. Multiple new sources have been added and I think it passes the GNG safely. Thanks, Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 00:49, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Why the speedy deletion?

Hello, Why the speedy deletion ? Pixlr Editor is not more about a web content page than Fatpaint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatpaint) for example. Its about in the same category, but as other values to it. Like a lot of software, they do about the same but not in the same manner. I wish to understand :-) Jmdeschamps (talk) 16:34, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Yes I better understand the situation, as I was made aware of the characteristics the article should maintain by some of your wikipedian peers. I just might take you up on your offer for support after doing a rewrite in accordance to the principles involved and sandboxing it (I think there is an option for that but I'm rather new at this :-) ), and ask your opinion on that eventual article - I still think its valuable information so I try to relate that. The software is not very old but I'm confident to show its niche not as a product per se but as a tool that leverages different needs, so again thanks, Jmdeschamps (talk) 21:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Jon Driver

Hi, in view of your previous involvement, you may wish to comment on the discussion at Talk:Jon Driver#Request. TerriersFan (talk) 01:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Softening language

Thanks a lot for your help so far. I really appreciate it, and I am sure others do too. Would you be so kind to take a look and see if you are able to "soften" the language? I am sorry but I am not a native speaker, and I am unable to do it myself. I wish I was more eloquent in English. Von Restorff (talk) 14:09, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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DRV

A notification that the Templates for Discussion discussion (oy, repetition) has been taken to a deletion review discussion. The Article Rescue Squadron was notified, and as notifications to previous involved parties isn't normal practise, I and a few ARS members agreed that, in the interests of transparency and fairness, we should let everyone know...hence this talkpage message ;).

If anyone has an issue with me sending these out, do drop me a note on my talkpage. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 10:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Response

I do apologise if it came across as bad faith, It wasnt intended that way; although this is a pretty contreversial issue because the information on here regarding that issue could be carried through into the real world and be the gap between preserving the United Kingdom or breaking it, so obviously its very contreversial and i dont want to just sit by and let it happen.

Im not sure where your from or whatever side you support but your probably aware that the Separtists have been giving the Unionists a lot of slack recently (And it was evident that a fair few of the people who voted delete were themselves Scottish Nationals, so as you can imagine would be bias and eager to delete and black out any unionist campaign.) And also its ironic that they were more keep/rename votes than delete, another proven fact. So really you cant accuse me of bad faith as it was fact, anyone is entitled to an opinion but your not entitled to a fact if its incorrect...

Plus i do feel that wikipedia should be more democratic and the closing matter should be discussed between a number of admins as opposed to just one, but at any rate, thanks for your message anyway, although if you do have a complaint or a related issue as i mentioned on my page , could you kindly post it on my complaints/constructive criticism page as opposed to my talk, thank you. User:Goldblooded ^{(Talk/Discuss)(Complain)} 16:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Noted. We might discuss it later, but I don't have enough time to give it proper attention at the moment. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 23:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Admin dashboard

Hey Ultra, thanks for the link at AN. I went ahead and stole it from you and put it on my user page--I hope you don't mind. Worse, I'd like your help: there's a row in there for edit filters and your to-do list--can you remove that for me? I hate messing with the code: it's a bit above my pay grade. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Marianella Machado Copy-and-paste-fraud discussion

I did a search for terms, and found a copy of the Wikipedia bio on her Facebook page and also here: Amazon link, which appears to be the ISBN in question. The book and page both credit Wikipedia. I can't see any fraud. Pkeets (talk) 01:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

About the notification: Happens I was paying attention and it showed up on my watchlist loud and clear--some don't. However, it would have been good to get an email notice from my Talk page, as well. Thanks for the message. Pkeets (talk) 02:14, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Bilquis Sheikh

Thank you for your contribution for expanding article, and removing deletion tag. marshmir (talk) 07:15, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Browsercookies block

Hi. I'm wondering why you gave Browsercookies a 31 hour block for edit warring, as opposed to an indefinite block as a vandalism only account. Based on the entirety of the user's edits, I'd recommend the second option. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Replied. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 15:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Notifications

Just so I know for the next time (not that I will EVER "canvass" again). As I said I did the notification one-by-one cut-n-paste. Im sure there is a faster way to communicate to a wide circle all at once. Where would I find that? Thanks for your time. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Saw this after I replied - so check your talk page again. Thx. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Ultraexactzz,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and

Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's

Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we

teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community,

and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what

you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community

[[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_82#Learn_to_be_a_Wikipedia_Administrator_-

_New_class_at_MSU|HERE]], where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my

students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training,

motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one

of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of

communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)

• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will

never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.

• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an

interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.

• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics

review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have

been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak

with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I

will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your

name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be

more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Fastily deleted a message I left here

I left a message here informing you I responded to your comments on my talkpage and it was deleted (I believe inappropriately) by user fastily. I am not going to revert his edit so if you want to read it you'll have to review this pages history. I also left fastily a not telling him that removing a comment from a users talk page is against policy and should be avoided. --Kumioko (talk) 12:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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My RfA

Thanks for your kind words in support of my RfA, which was successful and nearly unanimous. Be among the first to see my L-plate! – Fayenatic L (talk) 14:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Fellowship(racehorse)

I stand corrected with regard to the way I pursued the deletion of the article; I'm unfamiliar with the nomination process. I thought simply adding the tag (certainly as opposed to blanking the page or something like that) was appropriate.
In my revision on as of 06:47, 28 February 2012, though, I did state why I believed it should be deleted: the article does not meet Wikipedia's notoriety standards and it may be self-promotional. 86steveD (talk) 20:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Replied. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 21:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Thurmaston Bus Page Deletion

Hello,

I just wondered how come this page had been deleted, as it puzzled me somewhat.

The company in question did go out of business but even so should the page have remained anyway as a source of information?

I hope you don't mind me asking,

thanks,

RoxyMetro (talk) 14:39, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released

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Nobel laureates

• Your close of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of countries by Nobel laureates seems premature - please reopen it so that we may have the standard 7 days of discussion. Also, there seems to be some confusion as I'm not seeing a page User:Pristino/List of countries by Nobel laureates. I found another page with a malformed name User:User:Pristino/List of countries by Nobel laureates per capita and I moved that back to mainspace, thinking that it was the page in question. It's not clear to me where the page in question has gone now and a period of discussion may help sort all this out properly. Putting these pages into personal name space does not seem a good long term outcome, per WP:OWN and WP:STALEDRAFT. Warden (talk) 13:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

• The thing is that WP:STALEDRAFT indicates that users shouldn't be keeping drafts in userspace without the intention to make articles of them. As there were two !votes to keep in mainspace, re-userfying was not the unanimous consensus of the discussion. As the discussion had only just opened, it might be better to leave it open to get more views. But if you feel that speedy keep is best, then I'll follow up elsewhere once I've figured out the best talk page for this. Warden (talk) 17:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for SNAFU

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No hard feelings

I just wanted to let you know that I have no hard feelings about the block you made to me (Kumioko). I still think it was a bad block and a knee jerk reaction to a sarcastic comment I left. It effectively stopped me from defending my edits, fixing any problems my bot made, destroyed my desire to edit Wikipedia and will probably effectively end WikiProject United States and about 40 other projects I was trying to save but I think you got suckered by the other users. As a fairly new admin I think you reacted in the way you thought was right without knowing the whole history of the problem. I'm not saying all this to make you feel bad or anything like that, I just hope that next time you look a little deeper into the history of the problem and AGF when someone makes a comment like that rather than just react. Happy editing. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 02:08, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

One last time

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One last time and then I'll quite bothering you with the issue. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 18:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

You completely missed the bigger picture and problem here Ultra. The bigger problem is that Mark thinks he owns the articles in the scope of WikiProject Connecticut and refuses to allow WikiProject United States or anyone else to tag any of them because he thinks, and refuses to discuss otherwise, that they are out of WikiProject United States' scope. But you refused to see that, you refuse to accept that Mark was being incivil or that he had ownership issues or anything else. You saw what you wanted to see and you did the easy and lazy edit. Blocked me without even taking the time to look into it. I reverted his reversion because it amounted to VANDALISM, plain and simple, period, full stop. Whats more, I never intended to do it again after that, I made a sarcastic comment that should have been taken as such since I was an editor in good standing with a long and positive history with the project. But no, I was blocked for reverting vandalism to articles. And Mark is allowed to continue as well as other editors like Brad101 who has a long history of incivility gets to continue editing. These are the types of editors that get to stay and continue editing. But I was blocked because I didn't recognize his authority to "own" the articles I tried to tag as being in the scope of WikiProject United States. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 03:39, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm tired of fighting about it anyway. We can't turn back time and undo it and no one cares anymore so may as well let it go. Truthfully, I couldn't login if I wanted too. I removed the EMAIL address and scrambled the password. Although I suspect I could push to have someone do it through some sort of personal verification because I have met a lot of Wikipedian's in person (including several of the arbitration committee and a number of the corporate staff) who know who I am in real life and now that Kumioko is my user name. If your curious, I am the one in the back, between the 2 young ladies, wearing the Maroon shirt in this picture. Aside from that, the recent incident has caused me to lose faith in the process and I simply don't feel the way I once did about Wikipedia so for the time being I will just continue to do edits though my IP. Maybe some day I will create a new profile and start over but frankly, I did so many edits in so many areas it would be nearly impossible to not edit in the same areas. On the Village pump comment though I am a little confused. If its the 71.XX IP I am using here its mine. Other wise its probably not me. My work IP is blocked from editing Wikipedia do to the use of an organizational proxy used by thousands of users and recurring vandalism through that proxy. A few bad apples spoils the batch so to speak. Also, for what its worth I have lately been putting (formerly Kumioko) in parens after my IP so I'm not sure why anyone would think I am trying to hide.71.163.243.232 (talk) 03:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Gabai

I only restored because an editor, who hadn't seen the article, felt that it could be notable. By view is that it's an "obvious" cut-and-paste, no assertion of notability, and no sources. I can't just speedy again, but neither the complaining editor nor the creator has improved the article since. I suppose it could be relisted, but I'm happy to leave it to you Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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TalentTrekNashville

I noticed that you encouraged TalentTrekNashville (talk · contribs) to create an article on Sam Mounier, which he or she has now done. I took an earlier article to AfD - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Mounier and I'm not convinced that the problems there have been solved or that the new article is adquately sourced. I'm also believe that TalentTrekNashville is almost certainly someone from the Nashville office of http://www.talenttrek.com/about. As you've been involved with this editor I'm asking you if you think this should all be ignored or? Dougweller (talk) 15:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Replying momentarily. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 03:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

OrangeMike blocked him Saturday! Dougweller (talk) 11:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

AfD References Update

Hi UltraExactZZ I've updated the AfD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tony_Savo to include verifiable sources, the contents of which I believe should be sufficient to close the door on any speculation. I'm not entirely clear if it is 1 admin per issue or what the exact guidelines are governing the AfD process, but as the most active admin patrolling the page (perhaps only?) I hope I may ask you for some direction?
I have delayed contacting an OTRS volunteer as users' feedback seem to indicate that the issue can be handled at the immediate level and escalating the matter would feel inappropriate. I believe the references cited are among the most reliable and they directly refute some of the claims made by the originally approved article. In light of the clear evidence that exposes some of the false claims and fundamental sourcing problems already detailed in the AfD discussion, this article seems not only to fail meeting Wiki requirements but also to violate the guidelines of truthfulness and reliability.
Are there any additional steps I should take, or just hold tight until the 7 day discussion ends or something else. I greatly appreciate the attention you have been giving this issue and I am grateful for any advice or direction you could offer regarding this issue. Thank you. AwayEnter (talk) 13:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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Summary: the new user, User:ThatManAgain is still blocked AFAIK, there is no template on his talkpage for him to appeal against. It is him for whom I am advocating by beating the ever living crap out of anything that even vaguely looks like a horse. ;) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Great Result

Awesome. That was what I was worried about. Perhaps he came on during his block and had no idea what had happened until you posted to his talkpage, or perhaps just being blocked for what is, in his view, nothing more than sharing a computer with someone else. Who knows. Either way, it's a damning indictment on the modus operandi of at least one admin and the whole block-first, refuse-to-discuss-later prevailing culture among (what I hope is a small minority of) admins. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 13:21, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Just in reference to your note at the top of this page: reply here, I've watchlisted your talkpage. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 14:19, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's not good at all. But I still think unblocking outright would have caused more trouble for him/her in the long run. Maybe I could've phrased it as "Let us know that you saw this note and will be careful, and we'll unblock" but that's not optimal either. The issue may be with the block, but again - in most cases such a pattern indicates shenanigans, and I can't say I wouldn't have blocked there either. The ANI discussion got really heated really quickly, which served no one's interests - but where else to discuss such a block? It was a mess any way you look at it, and I'm not sure what there is to be done about it. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 15:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I left a note, sort of a saving throw, on ThatManAgain's page. Not sure there's much I can do if he's throwing the N word about, but it might be worth a shot to salvage the situation. That's the what. Your task now is to fix the Why. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 15:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Being that there was no basis for the block (i.e., no post to SPI, no complaint anywhere else), he was likely blocked in a drive-by (probably on seeing his username) without any benefit of the doubt. I would hope that you and other admins wouldn't do that. Or that you would at least leave a block template on the talk page. I'm coming over to your side that unblocking, without any acknowledgement isn't the way to go, but this situation shouldn't have occurred in the first place. We'll see if he replies to your message. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 06:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

An editor on the same local IP as another editor, dropping his first edit on the same page at which the other editor is involved, with IP edits and another username in the mix? Were I a checkuser, I probably would've blocked too. But AGF would seem to require that we still template the "sock" pages, still leave a door open on the off chance that it's a mistake, etc. I think that's the issue here - mistakes happen. Sour about the fact that it happened with an editor's first steps into the Wiki, but that happens too. How we deal with that, how we fix that, that's what matters. And I don't know what the path forward on that might be. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 12:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

DeltaQuad is not a CheckUser. If s/he were, I'd be a little bit more accepting of that line of reasoning. That's the point: blocking on a hunch (when there's no ongoing disruption) isn't OK, particularly when there are ways to actually figure the whole thing out.

I've only once participated in RfA (personally it always seemed a bit too much like an intervention session against wikiholism, with occasional successes/failed RfA's/whatever), but I suppose I have a question to ask if I ever want to. :P :) *shrug* ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 13:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Seems that way. Let me know if it comes up, I'd be interested in the answer. Best, UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:02, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Peter Devreotes Page Help

Hi, Ultraexactzz,

Back in February, you helped me out regarding an article I was trying to create on Dr. Peter Devreotes. I was unable to create it due to my conflict of interest. In our last communication, you generously offered to help write a neutral article if I was able to find sources showing notability.

I am hoping these sources I found may lead to the start of Dr. Devreotes' inclusion into the Wikipedia community.

1.) http://www.vidyya.com/vol4/v4i154_2.htm

2.) http://www.pnas.org/content/106/5/1297.full

3.) http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/cutting-protein-tail-of-tumour-suppressor-can-help-fight-cancer_100136861.html

4.) http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081231005413.htm

5.) http://www.drugdiscoveryonline.com/doc.mvc/Color-coded-technique-will-speed-identificati-0001

6.) http://www.pnas.org/content/107/46/19613.full

Please let me know if I am on the right track. Any other advice and feedback would be much appreciated!

Much thanks,(again)

Jkim403 (talk) 18:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)Jinna

Much thanks for your response!

Hi, Ultraexactz!

Thank you for your prompt response and for giving me hope on the possibility of creating an article about Dr. Devreotes!

Much appreciation for your guidance and patience!

I continue to look forward to your feedback! Fingers crossed the sources I provided will suffice. Thanks, again!

Jkim403 (talk) 13:33, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Jinna403

No problem. I'm going to respond on your talk page. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:05, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.

		The Guidance Barnstar
		You have provided what is in my opinion exeplary assistance and guidance in the arena we know as Wikipedia, I for one appreciate it. Newmanoconnor (talk) 19:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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Found new sources on Dr. Peter Devreotes

Hi, again, UltraExactzz!

Could you take a look at the new sources I found on Dr. D. and let me know if these better highlight him and his credentials?

1.) http://webapps.jhu.edu/namedprofessorships/professorshipdetail.cfm?professorshipID=269

2.) http://inbt.jhu.edu/blog/2009/07/22/devreotes-receives-hay-professorship-in-embryology/

3.) http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2005/05_03_05.html

4.) http://www.jhunewsletter.com/2.8148/professors-elected-to-national-academies-1.1137294#.T5_sddlnXV4

5.) http://www.pnas.org/content/107/46/19613.short?rss=1

6.) http://72.12.54.11/articles/secrets-of-directional-cell-movement

7.) http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/institute_basic_biomedical_sciences/news_events/articles_and_stories/cancer_disease/200509_hunt_for_cell_compass.html

8.) http://www.biologynews.net/archives/2005/04/06/pair_of_cancer_genes_found_to_drive_both_cell_migration_and_division.html 9.) http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/press/2000/MAY/000531.HTM

I am determined to stay the course with this project - much thanks for your advice the last go round! Keeping my fingers crossed this time around will fulfill the parameters for inclusion!

With much appreciation for your patience and helpful advice!

Jkim403 (talk) 15:53, 8 May 2012 (UTC)Jinna

No problem, I'll have a look in the next few days, when I can sit down and go through everything in one go. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 12:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Big Thanks!

Thank you for your continued assistance and guidance! I look forward to your input.

Cheers, Jkim403 (talk) 19:25, 10 May 2012 (UTC)Jinna

New CfD

Since you participated in earlier CfDs about related categories, I want to make sure you know about Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 May 12#Category:Church buildings in the United States by state. --Orlady (talk) 22:46, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Gurpreet Singh

Hi, can you please semi-protect this article for some time as an IP is restoring it against the AFD consensus. Thanks in advance. EngineerFromVega^★ 12:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 12:21, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Rakim Sanders

Hello! Rupert's Scribe here. In response to your question on the Sanders submission-- well, it's a long story but here it goes-- I did not make any changes to the article since I first submitted it. The submission was first reviewed by Sarah Stierch and was declined for the reasons you already stated. I wrote on Sarah's page explaining why specifially Sanders was significant (in my eyes) and why I chose to source the page in the manner that I did. Sarah first changed the argument from Sanders' notablity to that of the reliability of sources and then later to one over Indiana's significance as a amateur sports center(I have no idea how that came into it). A long disagreement ensued. With the facts heavily stacked against her, Sarah admitted that "I have no doubt that Sanders is notable" but stubbornly refused to publish the page, additionally stating that the discussion was a case of Wp:Crystal Ball (note that no predicitions are made on the page itself. Eventually, Sarah removed the argument from her talk page, claiming that it involved too much drama (that she had created, I would argue). You can view the entire discusion here She eventually advised me to re-submit the article, stating "perhaps another AfC volunteer will find it notable enough for inclusion." The reason why I think Sanders is notable is because he a. has participated in a major international amateur or professional competition and b.Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team. Sanders has been featured on cites from NBA.com to ESPN.com. The sources I used are generally not columns or opinion articles (I perfer to avoid biased sources when possible). I do think that Sanders is notable and hope you agree! Thanks so much for the concern. If you have any further questions or concerns, I am happy to discuss. Rupert'sscribe (talk) 15:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I understand why you feel that Sanders isn't notable, but I do disagree. He was highly successful in college, even though he didn't win many awards. I don't see why awards are the only criteria. Keith Wright, whose page I've edited, won Ivy League Player of the Year, but is far less notable than Sanders. Also, just because a player doesn't win an award doesn't mean that they aren't notable. Jeremy Lin was given a Wikipedia page long before his tenure with the Knicks, and he never one a major college award.Should Lin's page never have been published? He also went undrafted, so according to your standards he never should have had a wikipedia article until he played for the Knicks. Also, Sanders was named to the first team at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament. Other players who have been there include: Keith Wright, Jeremy Lin, Wesley Matthews, Carl Landry, JJ Barea, Steve Novak, Aaron Miles, James Jones, Matt Barnes, John Salmons, Jannero Pargo, and many others. For a full list of players who went to the Invitational and then the NBA, go to this address:http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/nbaPlayers.php. This list only goes as far back as 2002, so it does not include players such as Hall of Famer Rick Barry, who also played in the tournament. Inclusion in the tournament means that the player is one of the best seniors in the country, and is considered a legitimate NBA prospect. And again, Sanders was one of the FIVE BEST PLAYERS at the tournament. Surely that makes his notable? He has also been featured on the ESPN Top 10 plays twice. I am searching for the sources, although I can't find them at the moment. As to the argument over Indiana, I never said that it wasn't a major place for amateur sports. I simply said that it wasn't the best, which is completely true. The reason for my anger was frustration over dealing with the editor. She called my sources biased, but used a tourism company to back up her claims about Indiana, which is literally the definition of bias. I would like to suggest two possible resolutions to this conflict: 1. Keep the article in the articles for creation space until after the draft. If Sanders is drafted or signed by a team, the article will be published. 2. Publish it now, but work to make it better. I will readily admit that there are some problems with the article. Not everything is cited properly, and there is no picture of Sanders, although many exist. I could use some help with this, as I am new to Wikipedia, and this is only the second time that I have tried to publish an article. Thanks very much for all the help. it is great to know that Wikipedia has editors who are willing to take the time to talk to users about articles instead of just rejecting the articles for unclear reasons. Thanks again Rupert'sscribe (talk) 23:52, 17 May 2012 (UTC).

One other thing. I also added an additional news source which focuses on Sanders. Sanders is discussed at length not only as a player but also as a person. Also, it may not be relevant, but I would like to add that Sanders recently signed an agent. Thanks again for your concern and your comprehensive review of the sources for the page. I hope that these changes will convince you that Sanders is notable. If you have any more questions or concerns, I am happy to continue to disuss.Rupert'sscribe (talk) 13:38, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I take it that you are going to reject the submission, true? I am disapointed by this conclusion. It feels a little bit like your argument is "well, Sarah rejected it so I'm gonna reject it." I think Sanders is a brilliant player. That is not what makes him notable, though. What makes him notable is that he was a star player in college and is headed to the professionals. (BTW, did you even bother to look at the additional source/quote?) Sanders has recieved his share of media coverage. And yes, I recognize no two players are alike, but, you need to recongnize that past cases are perpetually used in making Wikipedia decisions. Seven of Kentucky's players from this past season have Wikipedia pages. Yes, their team was successful, but the individual players are in the same boat with Sanders as potential NBA prospects. Take a look at Darius Miller's Wikipedia page! Miller's page has six sources and none of them directly adress him other than his stats (is NBADraft.net more reputable than the webpage of a connecticut newspaper?) and his draft prospects. Miller and Sanders are highly comperable and the Sanders page is far more well sourced. If you are going to tell me that Miller deserves a page more than Sanders because he attended a college that gets more media coverage, that does not make sense to me because the individual players are equally notable and have earned an equal amount of coverage. I implore to consider all the facts and think reasonably. Sanders IS notable. The very fact that some of the sources are not "ideal" does not mean the subjects is not worthy of a page. Yes, I could wait and see, but there is indisputible evidence (well as idisputible as evidence for something this subjective can be) that Sanders has earned a page. I respect your willingness to look into the subject, but you have to look at it from a nuetral point of view. If Sarah had not rejected it would you? Please take all these factors into acount in making your final decision.Rupert'sscribe (talk) 14:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

It is irrevlevant what team Miller played for. You said so yourself; it only matters about what the individual has done, and whether or not he has recieved attention not related to the team. Miller and Sandrs have recieved the same amount of attention, unrelated to their team. Thanks again for helping me. I apologize if I seemed uncivil. Rupert'sscribe (talk) 15:51, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Continued communication about Broadvision Perspectives India

Hi. According to the feedback you gave with respect to the Broadvision Perspectives India article, I have re-written the article, cutting down on ambiguous words and have also cited sources. Some parts of it have been picked from the website, but they are a few lines at most and have been cited accordingly. Could you please have a look at the rewritten draft on my talk page. And tell me if changes are required or is it good enough to be posted. It would truly be helpful since this is a very good company in India that has no information available about it online. Thanks Summersintern (talk) 11:50, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi. So I have made changes in the write up again. Please do see. Have toned it down much more to be as factual as possible and not be promotional. Thank you so much for the really nice feedback. Please do take a look again at my talk page and edited article.Summersintern (talk) 06:54, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to know if there is something that should be done for the article to go public? By that i mean that when i type the name in the google search bar, it should show me this article. this is currently not happening. So was just wondering if there is some step that i missed out on? Thanks Summersintern (talk) 08:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the inputs again. the 'about the founder is just stating about where he has worked. How do i reduce that? But will definitely re-work it as i keep getting more sources. Summersintern (talk) 05:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I have moved the page to 'Broadvision Perspectives' as you suggested. Also though I understands the rationale behind the edit you made about the founder, I think a founders background helps add credibility to the startup. That was why i'd added that section. The places he has worked at are very reputed firms and would (might sound old fashioned) but let the company get more gravity. I'm leaving it as it is for now. Might add the section a litle late because I honestly am still confused about this particular edition. Thanks again though. Love the patience you have had in helping me.Summersintern (talk) 04:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

This is what I have added after editing the piece, keeping in mind just his work. Also found references for the other companies he is part of. Here goes 'Sriram Chandrasekaran is the Chief Executive Officer and one of the founders of Broadvision Perspectives. Sriram graduated from BITS Pilani and did his MBA from Indian Institute of Management, Lucknow. He started his career with HCL Hewlett Packard and then became a part of the Tata Administrative Services (TAS) of the Tata Group, where he rotated within the Group and worked with the Taj Group of Hotels, Tata Sons and Tata Motors. He then joined Microsoft Corporation before setting up Broadvision Perspectives.Sriram is also the founder of Studio56 and serves as an Independent Director on the Board of Inwinex Pharmaceuticals Limited, a BSE listed Food Products Company based in Hyderabad.' For the last sentence I have cited references. Is this okay? The reason for putting this up is that these are very prestigious companies, also he did employer branding starting with Tata Group. It was done internally for the group. thats when he decided to start his own company. Summersintern (talk) 12:41, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

The article will definitely be improved and the search for sources continues. hopefully it should be as credible as wiki wants it to be. You've been a great help. Summersintern (talk) 04:04, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Gurpreet Singh (Actor)

Gurpreet Singh (Actor) is now created by gurpreetsinghactor (talk · contribs). I still find him a borderline notable and the references are not adherent to WP:RS. Do you think we should take it to AFD? There is also a concern of WP:COI, but I don't want to bite a user. EngineerFromVega^★ 06:50, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Arnaud "The Game" Lepont

could you delete it for me?? a seperate and better page Arnaud Lepont already exists for that article and its just a waste of space on Wiki at this point. cheers Sepulwiki

afd closures

[1] The script places the afd closure notice on the talk page of the redirect. hence it was missing. Good to see that people like you, keep a tab on these :) --DBigXray 19:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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Demothewaldo

Your message is still to the point, though ... they can always open a new request. Daniel Case (talk) 15:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)