User talk:BL Lacertae

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Western Sahara stubs, category

===>Thanks and sorry Thanks for fixing the mistakes that I made on that Project page, and sorry if I jumped the gun about making the stub category. Please let me know if I can fix this. Justin (koavf) 01:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Donabate Portrane Community Centre

Could you explain why in this edit you added the tag {{US-struct-stub}} to indicate this is an American building. I suspect, that it's in Donabate, Ireland based on the name. Also, if doing such an edit, I would suggest mentioning something in the edit summary, as it's not immediately noticed. I've never heard of this place, so I could be wrong. If you do know the locaiton of the place, please add that to the article. Thanks. --Rob 05:45, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

The Quillian Games stub tag

Thank you for changing it to the book tag. I was just in the process of looking up how to do so.

Link9er 15:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Maoririder

Hello. Could you drop me a link about how Maoririder got banned? I've read the AC case but it looks like they decided only to assign him a mentor. Conscious 16:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I see. I think I'll go and warn Aecis about this (he's going to speedy all Jingofetts's contributions, and soon he'll be able to do it). Thanks. Conscious 07:19, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

O.H.M.S.

Hi! I noticed you added a British Government Stub to the O.H.M.S. page that I created. I'm not sure that this is entirely appropriate, as the endorsement is used by many other countries (eg Australia, Canada etc). jmd 23:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

I don't have a fancy layout like other new admins, but I just want to thank you for your support at my RfA. It passed 48/3/1, so I have officially been promoted. I hope I won't let you down. If I'm not doing something properly, please tell me. Aecis ^{Mr. Mojo risin'} 21:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

AfD- Theron Pummer

I'm a bit of a new user, and since you've got a bit more experience, I'm going to generally defer to you on this AfD thing. I have a particular interest in the kind of philosophy that the subject of this article wrote about, encountered his journal publication in an academic context, and reflected that since the publication was considered important enough to consider at an undergraduate symposium, he might be included in WP. I added this article on the subject with the hopes that someone more familiar with the ideas of the subject would be able to expand the article.

Anyway, I'm not sure if, all that said, the article STILL isn't worthy under deletion policies. I realize that undergraduate research/thought, even when it's pretty worthy, is still difficult to consider "notable" in all but exceptional circumstances. Let me know what you think. KrazyCaley 02:50, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Metropolian Katowice

Mam pytanie: czy znasz może język polski? --LUCPOL 22:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

huh? i dont speak polish if thats what youre asking! BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 22:28, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

heh? i dont speak polish :( --LUCPOL 00:18, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Physicalism/Larry's text

Out of plain curiosity; you nominated this page for deletion, but you stated yourself that a {{move to Wikisource}} is probably the best option. Why didn't you do that instead?SoothingR 10:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Alright then, no harm done..but let's keep this MFD running though. It looks like other people think that a deletion is appropiate.SoothingR 09:32, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

stub types for deletion

I replied to your comment.--Urthogie 16:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Good point. Replied with a compromise.--Urthogie 17:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

geo-stub

Hi, I had removed the israel-geo-stub from various Israel geography articles since some users have decided that it is POV. The new icon for this stub does not include the 'disputed territories' of the Gaza Strip or West Bank / Judea and Samaria, and is somewhat misleading for locations that are/were in these areas. I would prefer if the isr-geo-stub were a full map of Israel, or a simple flag since these are/were Israeli locations (if someone wants to argue that these aren't/weren'tIsraeli territories), but this issue has not been deicded yet. Please see: Template talk:Israel-geo-stub. What do you think? --Shuki 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

UK Location Stubs

In a few places now (Withypool, Two Moors Way, Sampford Peverell) you've either changed a UK-geo-stub to Devon-geo-stub, or removed the UK-geo-stub when both were present. My thinking is that having both stubs is more useful—people might not see that a stub needs improvement if it's just pigeonholed under Devon, whereas they might be looking (more broadly) for UK stubs to fix, for example. I reverted the change to Two Moors Way, but after noticing that this is a consistent change, I wanted to ask you the reasons for you edits. Is there a protocol or style thing about multiple stub categories that I don't understand? Thanks, Ryan McDaniel 16:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Saw your reply, thanks for the clarification. Guess I didn't understand that it automatically cross-linked the stubs. I'm gonna go fix whatever I broke now :-) Ryan McDaniel 00:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Cat:SF films

fixed - you must be using a "non-compliant browser" (you use Safari, IIRC) - it glitched the Hangul characters. Grutness...wha? 22:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Gight

Sorry, I didn't know that was such a hot button issue. Thanks for clearing it up, though. Jtrost (^T | C | _#) 22:37, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

LGBT stub

Hi there! just a heads-up - noticed that you put an lgbt-stub on Gay Press Organization, but it didn't work because it's got to be LGBT-stub, not lgbt-stub. fixed it, so don't worry, just thought i'd let you know so you don't have to go back and change any others. i don't know if it's possible to put in a redirect, cos i'm pretty new, but let me know and i'll do one! cheers -- ConDem 01:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. Did my first bit of stub-sorting today, was actually quite fun! So thanks for the idea. ConDem 18:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the advice! will do in future. -- ConDem 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Frome Valley Walkway

Thanks for your changes to Frome Valley Walkway. It is my first new article and I wasn't sure I'd got the headings right. Duncshine 09:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. Thanks for your response. I did think about the links to local pubs, but decided to include them based on the guidelines that:-

1) The links add meaningful content that is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. (Icons regarding facilities offered, types of drink offered, photographs etc). I'm not sure Wikipedia wants an individual page for every pub in the UK/World, but nonetheless it does add to the information on a given locale or, in this case, River.

2) The site is an open directory. Users can update the information any of the pages.

3) The site is non-commercial. It's my site, started as a hobby way back. The idea is to add information about pubs for everyone (especially travellers and tourists) to use. Pubs are my special interest subject (what does that say about me?). Needless to say there are no fees etc involved.

4) The site is NPOV. Although I encourage users to add whatever information they can, I have a strict editing policy so that 'the best pub in Glasgow' or whatever, gets removed. The idea is to state facts rather than opinions.

5) If I'm honest, I don't have time to add all the information on my site to Wiki, but I do feel the info adds to an understanding of a given locale. Also, when my site is updated, as it frequently is, any links on wiki automatically go to the latest information. By the way, there are plenty of pages within my site that would add NO value to wiki, so clearly there's no reason to link to those (where the information is patchy or out of date).

All that said, I am clearly biased! The world of pubs is clearly where I can add most to wiki, but if experienced users like yourself feel this goes against what wiki is about, you just need to let me know. In that instance I'll try and add info where I can, but avoid the links.

Would very much welcome your guidance on this.

Thanks

Duncshine 10:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi once more. Thanks for a very thorough response. I think with any future entries, I'll make my judgement as to whether any link really does add something to the article. Then, if an editor disagrees with me, we can discuss it. That's what I love about WP, it's truly democratic!

Can I ask a stub question? I've just added a stub on Winterbourne Viaduct, an architecturally significant viaduct/bridge near Bristol. Now, I've put that its a Gloucestershire location stub; but I was wondering what the guidelines are for other stub categories. I'd like people who are knowledgable about viaducts, railway crossings, architecture etc. to be able to expand this, but I'm not sure how many and which stubs I should add? Sorry to be a pain, but once I get the hang of it, I won't bother you so much! Duncshine 09:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi again BL Lacertae. Just to let you know I have arrived at the definitive stub settings for Winterbourne Viaduct. I've gone for UK-struct, bridge-struct, and UK-rail stubs and removed the Gloucestershire-geo stub. No need to reply to me if this seems OK, but do please set me straight if you think I've used the wrong stubs. Thanks again for your patience, and for making me want to get more involved in adding and updating Wiki articles. Duncshine 13:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Libya stubs

Coincidence. I've never been to WP:WSS. But I will gladly join. Send my kisses to the lizard. the.crazy.russian (T) (C) (E) 00:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

22/7

• Stong Keep. It is absurd to say a proof on its own is not an encyclopedia article. What about all of the other pages devoted mainly to mathematical proofs? Will you nominate ALL of them for deletion? What about ALL OF THE ARTICLES IN list of topics related to pi?? Should the ALL get merged into pi? That is absurd! Wikipedia is NOT supposed to be only for beginners. "Night Gyr", may I inquire about your experience with Wikipedia's mathematics articles? "Kiss the Lizard" very clumsily misses the point of this article. 22/7 is of course one of the earliest convergents in the continued fraction expansion of π. By contrast, those decimal expansions (e.g. 3.14159) are rather arbitrary. "kiss the lizard", what is the nature and degree of your experience with Wikipedia mathematics articles? Michael Hardy 01:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Please dont rant on my talk page. you already made your point on thw afd page and thats all you need to do. and might i point out that if you cant even work out which part of a wikipedia signature is the username then perhaps it is you who dont have the wiki experience, not me. i havent edited any mathematics articles here, but that doesnt mean i cant tell the difference between an encyclopedic article and a nonencyclopedic one - or that i am ignorant of mathematics.

Your vote on this article does make it appear that you cannot tell the difference, in this case at least.

But why speak of "ranting"? Michael Hardy 23:38, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

for all you know i may have a phd on the newton-raphson method and its use with continuously differentiable functions.

What I said was that your comments make it clear that you do not understand the article. I stand by that. Michael Hardy 23:38, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

in any case it would be far more useful if you tried defending the article - rather than attacking those who do not see it as worth a place in wikipedia.

I did not attack anyone. I have been defending the article. Successfully, it seems (with four or five votes for either "delete", "merge", or "transfer", and about 35 for "keep"). Michael Hardy 23:38, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• to rant: "to speak or declaim in a violent, loud, or vehement manner". yup - ranting. my vote simply makes it clear that this article is not encyclopedic. it might be useful in one of wikipedias sister projects but it doesnt belong here in that form. and did you or did you not claim that my comments were "very clumsy"? did you or did you not attack my knowledge of the subject area based on my lack of edits to other wikipedia mathematics articles? both ad hominem, personal attacks. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard

I did not claim you lacked knowledge of the subject based on a lack of edits. What makes you think I did? I merely asked what experience you had.

My "very clumsy" remark was about those particular comments of yours.

Although I have never said before that you are not knowledgeable in mathematics (I don't know what makes you think I said that) I will now say something on that: I think if you knew much about the subject, you would not be saying that "if there was a similar mathematical proof presented that any x was greater than any y it would not be encyclopedic either" --- as if such a thing would necessarily be comparable.

I haven't launched any ad hominem attacks. An ad hominem attack looks like this: "Ronald Reagan is a Republican, therefore his argument makes no sense." I never said that any particular fact about you implies your arguments make no sense.

And why would you consider it a personal attack if I say only that a particular thing you wrote was clumsy? That's about one thing that you wrote, not about you as a person. Michael Hardy 23:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I merely asked what experience you had. And the point of that question, if not to suggest to readers that i did not know about the subject, was what, precisely? Couple that with the suggestion that my comment was clumsy, and there is the clear intention of showing that my knowledge of the subject is inferior to yours. is that in any way a defence of the article on its merits? no. it is an attack on my ability to judge the worth of the article. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 00:15, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

The reason I asked the question was a suspicion that you were not familiar with Wikipedia's customs and conventions followed in mathematics articles. Michael Hardy 00:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Elaea

I will be adding Elaea, but you edited my geostub in its tender youth. The Elaea you mention is indeed in Turkey, the one mentioned here is in ancient Aethiopia which most likely corresponds to Eritrea or Sudan, or Somalia, or such. See [1] for 6 Elaeas (or Elaeae?), there are no doubt others preserved in other writings. See also [2] for Strabo's account of the matter. Carlossuarez46 02:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Most unfortunate about the unusable Yemen geo stub, but all the authorities place it on the African side (is there an African geo stub?) Carlossuarez46 03:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:R with possibilities

Hi BL, thank you for your vote, but since the template was proposed for renaming only as opposed to deletion, did you actually mean to write that you like the template's name and would like to keep the name as opposed to anything else? Thanks again. Shawnc 02:11, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

ops thanks. added extra comment to my vote. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 03:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

geo-stub and craters

No problem, and thanks for letting me know. As far as I remember, it was only one article, but the important thing is that it won't happen again. See you around wikipedia. --Xyrael 10:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Geo stubs

Yes I changed stubs in the articles about Kosovo cities. In fact I changed 3 different stubs into one: "Serbia-geo-stub", non-existing "Kosovo-geo-stub" (but it was in the articles) and "Euro-stub", into one singe "Geo-stub". I think that "Geo stub" is the best solution here until the final status of Kosovo is not defined to prevent further disputes about this. You said that "Geo-stub is only used now as a temporary holding template until things are sorted further", so in the case of Kosovo we can use it as a temporary holding template until the final status of Kosovo is known. However, it is only my suggestion since I will not change anything about these stubs in the future. If you want to change "Geo stubs" into something else, please do it, I will not object. PANONIAN (talk) 13:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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See why I changed that into "Geo-stub":

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gora_%28region%29&diff=47648587&oldid=33148701

And he will also change the "Serbia-Montenegro-stub" which you posted into non-existing "Kosovo-stub", thus, the articles then will not have stubs at all. PANONIAN (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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Renamed categories

The categories which you tagged for renaming have been renamed in accordance to your suggestions and the old categories can be deleted. Don't know how to do this, but maybe you do? --KYN 19:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Apologizes to have messed things up. Didn't realize that category naming was serious business. --KYN 19:40, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

EX-Yugoslavian Edit War in Wikipedia

If you want to sort the geo stub about Yugoslavian after the war you must at first read this: Talk:Federal Republic of Yugoslavia--Hipi Zhdripi 19:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

ok ive read it. now ill go back to sorting them according to the finalised discussions on kosovo at WP:WSS. kosovo in general gets serbia-stub and places in kosovo get SerbiaMontenegro-geo-stub. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 02:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Lebanon-geo-stub

Thanks for dealing with the Lebanon geo-stubs! :) Grutness...wha? 07:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Not me - I only tidied up the last few and took it off your splitting list! BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 13:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Auckland meetup

Just to let you know that a meetup is planned in Auckland for the 25th of June (see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland for more details), and that you are cordially invited. GeorgeStepanek\^talk 00:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Cave, Italy

Hey, thank you to collaborate to an Italian commune geo stub. However, I ask you to check other communes entries which has been just expanded to see what would be the standard form of the article (examples: Acquapendente, Molfetta). This is why often you'll see History - Main sights - Transportation sections without any text below... they're an invitation! Further, if you've time, you could add the infobox to articles without or even the footer for the province communes. Data can be copied exactly from the corresponding article from it.wikipedia.org, ismply formatting them for the English version. Ciao!!!

huh? all i did was properly format a stub while i was fixing a better template. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 01:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for destroying the Historical London travel guide before my friends added content, I guess the era of (1) discussing before acting and (2) not worrying about stubs before they get content are over. Both of these used to be Wikipedia policy, but I haven't been paying close attention in recent years to how Wikipedia has changed. Greg 06:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

it didnt seem like a very encyclopedic thing (or likely to become one). the article already had a merge notice on it and there was no dicussion saying it shouldnt be merged. as it was there was so little there anyway that anyone reading the article would have thought "is that it?" it made far more sense for it to be part of the history of london article as the merger notice proposed. so there was an opportunity for discussing before acting but noone seemed keen to save it, and even a stub has to have some content - this had none. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 12:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I've replied to your message about this article on talk page - and left a note at Talk:History of London, too. I agree - as it stands, this article should be a redirect, although it's possible that something more substantial may end up there in the future. Grutness...wha? 12:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Excellent user name

Really brought a smile to my face. Thanks. Runcorn 18:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)