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Questions about the diet

A friend started Gundry's diet, so I researched it a bit and have some issues. 1. It's difficult to find any neutral or critical reviews, even though there are two and they are from famous publishers. The Atlantic ^[1] and the Independent ^[2]. 2. Although he only started publishing academic papers on the topic, they are very numerous, mostly published by an organization of which he used to be a board member, are only cited by another paper he has published, and of which he is the sole author (except sometimes Epstein) with no institutional affiliation or sponsorship. ^[3] 3. With the exceptions of Atlantic and Independent (above), there are no major media publishers which have reviewed his diet at all, which is surprising given all the positive testimonials. Media that have done reviews or interviews are effusive and appear to be paid for. ^[4] Therefore, because these issues are very basic, and together provide a clear picture of the actual nature of Gundry's recent public activity: There should be an explicit statement in this article that concerns have been raised about the validity and truth of Gundry's recommendation by reputable authors at the Independent and the Atlantic. Another sentence would summarize the issues raised by each. Personally, I am weary of the influence that commercial rhetoric has on science, and I think this article is biased by almost completely ignoring the problems with Gundry's recent work. Zoticogrillo (talk) 02:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't disagree, but this sounds a bit like WP:SYN - e.g. Wikipedians reviewing the publish research and saying "we think it seems fishy." It's not really our place to say. - Scarpy (talk) 22:35, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Very good point. I'd have to concisely summarize the conclusion of the Atlantic article without crowding out other relevant facts. However, the article as it stands has bias and is perhaps self promotional. I'll give drafting it a shot and post proposed text here. Zoticogrillo (talk) 22:17, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/04/the-next-gluten/523686/

[2] ttps://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/best-bread-for-you-to-eat-only-grain-gluten-lectin-free-cardiologist-healthy-diet-steven-gundry-a7736161.html

[3] ttps://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_ylo=2013&q=steven+gundry&btnG=

[4] ttps://www.google.com/search?q=Steven+Gundry&oq=Steven+Gundry&gs_l=psy-ab.3...0.0.0.9329105.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.-NZ30U_2Akc

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 Personally, I am weary of the influence that commercial rhetoric has on science, and I think this article is biased by almost completely ignoring the problems with Gundry's recent work. [[User:Zoticogrillo|Zoticogrillo]] ([[User talk:Zoticogrillo|talk]]) 02:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 : I don't disagree, but this sounds a bit like [[WP:SYN]] - e.g. Wikipedians reviewing the publish research and saying "we think it seems fishy." It's not really our place to say. - [[User:Scarpy|Scarpy]] ([[User talk:Scarpy|talk]]) 22:35, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
+::Very good point. I'd have to concisely summarize the conclusion of the Atlantic article without crowding out other relevant facts. However, the article as it stands has bias and is perhaps self promotional. I'll give drafting it a shot and post proposed text here. [[User:Zoticogrillo|Zoticogrillo]] ([[User talk:Zoticogrillo|talk]]) 22:17, 23 October 2017 (UTC)