Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Apple Inc.

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B-class checklist

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Articles about trivial features

I've just discovered a bunch of articles entirely dedicated to features found on Apple devices. If it's something like AirDrop or AirPlay, that's totally fine, but ... Control Center (Apple), Crash Detection, Dictionary (software), Family Sharing, Night Shift (software), Notification Center, SpringBoard, System Settings?? Come on, seriously? This is trivial WP:FANCRUFT; none of these articles should exist. The only plausible explanation I can think of for why they were even created in the first place is that the article creators were diehard Apple fans — but this is Wikipedia, not the Apple fan wiki. To quote {{Overly detailed}}, [These articles] contain an excessive amount of intricate detail that may interest only a particular audience. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:59, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

And it appears Windows is suffering the same problem: Action Center, Feedback Hub, Get Help, Magnifier (Windows), Microsoft Messaging, Microsoft Tips, Snipping Tool, Windows Fax and Scan, Windows Mobility Center, Windows spotlight ... these are all WP:FANCRUFT that, like the Apple articles, fail WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree on most, but I'd argue that Crash Detection is notable due to secondary coverage & relatively widespread criticism of its bugs. DFlhb (talk) 06:15, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus I also think it's worth considering merging the articles on iOS versions, and the various iPod touch models, and the iPad models, recombining the base-model iPhones with Pro models (like iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro), and undoing the splits into Intel/Apple silicon articles (see top of this talk page). DFlhb (talk) 10:18, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

I am eager to get behind that, especially merging the base-model iPhones with the Pro models. But such merges will require formal merge requests on each article's talk pages. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:50, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

It makes sense to keep things consistent, and I'd like as much input as possible. Might want to add the merge templates to all, but direct all discussions to a single talk page (iPhone 15 Pro, where a merge was recently informally discussed). It's unusual but I feel it might work. DFlhb (talk) 08:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

That would most certainly result in a WP:TRAINWRECK. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I agree... Calculator (Apple)—seriously? BhamBoi (talk) 00:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Determining the future of B-checklists

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Apple apps in need of articles

• iTunes U
  • An educational app unveiled in 2012 that came preinstalled, but was later discontinued in 2021. ([1][2][3])
• Journal
  • A journaling app set to come out alongside iOS 17.2, and announced with the release of iOS 17. ([4][5])

BhamBoi (talk) 00:32, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

No. Not every Apple app needs an article. We were just discussing this at #Articles about trivial features. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Proposal of new WikiProject: Operating Systems

Hello, I am working on creating a new WikiProject, and I am looking for others to join in the creation of WikiProject Operating systems. If you'd be interested in joining and supporting the project, add your name to the proposal support list here. Thanks! OnlyNano 20:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Comprehenshive list of iOS libraries and frameworks?

Wikipedia could benefit from having a comprehensive list of all the Apple libraries/frameworks/whatever due to the sheer amount of them, and lots of them not being notable to have wikipedia pages such as:

• PencilKit
• ARKit
• PDFKit
• TipKit
• UIKIT
• RealityKit

etc. given the many apple platforms, it would be nice to maybe have a table for compatibility. I do not have a proposal as to what the article name should be. -1ctinus📝🗨 14:35, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe, but I'm not sure if it really passes the notability guidelines, particularly for stand-alone lists. TappyTurtle (talk • contribs) 01:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, I think based on that some notability can be established as a group or for the general concept of the frameworks and I could certainly make a start with the big ones, provide some explanation and even see if I can add a table for compatibility.

That said, most of the information will be based on primary sources and I’d be more comfortable if we can get a little bit of consensus going before I commit time on something like that to lower the risk that it’ll end up being a time sink that ends up being waste of time due to deletion ConcurrentState (talk) 01:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Antitrust article

I think there's more than enough material to start a new Antitrust cases against Apple by the European Union article. Got the idea from seeing Antitrust cases against Google by the European Union. DFlhb (talk) 11:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

There's a Litigation involving Apple Inc. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:57, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I think EU-related antitrust stuff can be placed there under the antitrust section.

Semi-related: I do think it might be useful to have an article along the lines of "Apple's response to DMA" or "Apple's implementations as a result of DMA" or something like that.

That way, we can have one article where we can document all the DMA-related changes and transclude parts as needed in stuff like iOS, iOS 17, App Store (Apple), dev related articles, etc.

Currently, the only place something like this is mentioned is Issues relating to iOS#Progressive web apps not working in the European Union on iOS 17.4 betas, and that doesn't seem a good location because that article normally only handles bugs and issues, not results of policy decisions. ConcurrentState (talk) 21:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

That's intentional behavior on Apple's part, so Batterygate comes to mind. Perhaps Criticism of Apple Inc. should be converted from a redirect. Batterygate, Environmental impact of Apple, Apple supply chain, iOS app approvals, etc. can be linked via {{main}} hatnotes, or just merged. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:08, 5 March 2024 (UTC)