Talk:Vega (Street Fighter)
Name
Shouldn't the characters' -real- names be used for the most part, and the alternate "let's not get sued by Mike Tyson" names be the ones listed as an aside? This guy is Balrog. The guy in red is Vega. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.106.93.177 (talk • contribs)
- No. This is an English Wikipedia, and English names are used. The English name of the matador is Vega, period. Danny Lilithborne 21:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- I highly disagree. Regardless of it being an English Encyclopedia or not, the goal is for accurate information. The name of this character is Balrog. It has been for years. Most people outside the U.S. know him as such. The original name should always be used in factual articles. Coolgamer 18:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Uh, no. Balrog is his JAPANESE name. It's Vega everywhere else. Danny Lilithborne 03:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- And who created the game? Capcom of Japan had nothing to do with the name change. Coolgamer 17:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Can you prove that? It was fear of a lawsuit that prompted the name swapping. 1. Can you give a source that says CoJ had nothing to do with it and 2. can you show how that's relevant to an English Wikipedia? Danny Lilithborne 17:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Instead of drawing this out, I opened a Mediaton Cabal case for this, so we can get a neutral party to comment. Danny Lilithborne 23:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- And who created the game? Capcom of Japan had nothing to do with the name change. Coolgamer 17:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Uh, no. Balrog is his JAPANESE name. It's Vega everywhere else. Danny Lilithborne 03:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- First of all. This is the ENGLISH Wikipedia, NOT the Japanophile Wikipedia. When people look for Vega (Street Fighter), they're gonna expect the "Spanish Ninja", not the "Shadoloo dictator". And secondly, YES, Capcom of Japan IS involved with the name changes, considering it was them that to recode the game for the American/Worldwide markets to integrate the name changes. Jonny2x4 23:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thinking like that, the hadouken article should be titled "Ball of fire", because that's what it was called in the American version of the first game. Or, in the similar manner, name the Tekkaman Blade article "Teknoman", because that's how the American edited version is titled. Really, the world doesn't begin and end in America. M3n747 (talk) 12:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- (Indent reset) Actually, it was called "Hurricane Punch" in the very first Capcom USA movelists, but is listed as "Hadouken" in all movelists now. And generally, it is the most commonly known name to the language audience that is used, or, when that can't be ascertained, the first name used. It's a fact that in both the USA and World versions, the matador character is known as "Vega", so that takes care of the "commonly known" problem. The Japanese Wikipedia would call him "Balrog" (or more accurately バルログ) because, simply, that's what most Japanese speakers would know him as. JuJube (talk) 13:09, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm usually about as much of a hardcore purist when it comes to referring to characters by their original name, however this would be an exception. While the character was originally named Balrog, he has been known as Vega in the US for years. Since this Wiki entry is for the US audience, searching for Street Fighter's Vega should point to the matador. As long as the article mentions that his original name was Balrog (which it does), I'm content. A good compromise would be a link at the top of the article pointing to Vega/M. Bison, though I don't think it's all that necessary. Krendall (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, except this Wikipedia isn't for the US audience as much as for the English-speaking audience, where he's known in more places (universally, in fact) as Vega. JuJube (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- "And secondly, YES, Capcom of Japan IS involved with the name changes, considering it was them that to recode the game for the American/Worldwide markets to integrate the name changes"
- That's strange... that means Capcom of Japan were the ones who translated shoryuken into "sheng long".84.90.24.156 (talk) 19:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- No it doesn't. CoJ made the name changes, but CoA did the translation. JuJube (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Image Change
Someone move the comic image. Vega is a videogame character and his image should be from one of the games. No need for fan art on this page. Mr.bonus 19:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Trivia (removed from the article)
- His Japanese name "Balrog" is meant to be ironic, seeing as the Balrog is a mythical hideous creature, contrary to Vega's immaculate beauty. "Vega" is the name of a star in the Lyra constellation. Vega is also a Spanish word, meaning "small valley"; it's also a common Spanish last name, which helped fit Vega's Spanish ancestry and matador background in the storyline, and an uncommon female first name.
- When Vega performs a custom combo, the shadows that trail him are not masked.
- It is hinted that Vega may engage in hematophagy; he had a strong fascination with his victims' blood whether or not he actually partakes of it.
- Vega appeared as an unplayable boss character in the Capcom/Psikyo shooter Cannon Spike in 2000, as part of an elite group of terrorists in the future. Here he is known as Fallen Balrog (even in the North American release), has two claws, no mask, and a sickly palor, resembling the undead monsters present in that stage of the game.
- In Capcom vs. SNK 2, during Vega's fight intro he will throw a rose to characters he respects (M. Bison) or finds attractive (all the female fighters). He will turn away and shake his head at characters he finds unattractive (Blanka, Yamazaki).
- Vega was given the surname Fabio Lacerda (ファビオ・ラ・セルダ, Fabio ra seruda) in the anime series Street Fighter II V, but it's not officially canonized by Capcom.
- In his original Street Fighter II appearance, the CPU-controlled Vega had a special attack where he could jump onto the cage wall in the background of his stage, climb it for a few seconds, and then leap, dropping down onto the player from the top of the screen. This gave Vega a rather unique advantage as he was the only opponent that could directly interact with the background of his stage. Because he was not a playable character in the original incarnations of Street Fighter II until Champion Edition, this technique could not be replicated by the player unless the battle occurred in his stage. In Street Fighter Alpha 3, when on Vega's stage, Vega has a Super Combo that recreates this ability for a short time (even though the player cannot control him until he leaps off to attack).
- In Street Fighter II: The World Warrior, the flag of Spain is the francoist one, with the black eagle symbol on it. On Champion Edition, appears the constitutional one, with the royal label. On further editions, it appears without any symbol, only the red and yellow flag. --David Pro 22:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- So, why was the trivia section removed? None of this info is incorrect (though the name inspriation is pure speculation). Krendall (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has a thing against Trivia sections...their best usage is to rework as much info as possible into the bulk of the article to get around any issues.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- True, but the guide that talks against trivia sections also says that they shouldn't just be erased, just try to be implemented into the rest of the article. -Krendall (talk) 15:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has a thing against Trivia sections...their best usage is to rework as much info as possible into the bulk of the article to get around any issues.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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Vega and homosexuality
Due to Vega's appearance and several sources, Vega has to be gay because it was once written hat he has a sexual feeling for Zangief. 83.64.76.55 (talk) 22:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- No he doesn't; actually, he thinks he's ugly (cf. Capcom vs. SNK 2 intro). Vega is not gay, he's a narcissist Japanese stereotype (ie. Benimaru, who you probably think is gay also). JuJube (talk) 04:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Unless you know Vega personally, I don't see how you can know he is not gay? likewise, you can't label him gay without clear proof. 79.74.105.111 (talk) 02:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
In his SFA3 ending, he states that he admires Cammy because she is 'strong and beautiful'. The only other mediums he seems to have any interest in other characters are the anime film and series where he seems to have a thing for Chun-Li (stalks her in the series, refers to her as a 'cute little bunny' in the film). There doesn't seem to be any indication of being gay anywhere, but he's often represented as being interested in beautiful women. The only thing I recall is Zangief's Super Turbo ending where Gief is posing in front of a mirror with a picture of Vega hanging next to it, and that says more about Gief's sexuality than Vega's.