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Epic Systems Corporation was (apparently) featured in an article on TheDailyWTF.com, a web site about poor programming practices: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS.aspx

Notable-- everyone in Madison, WI has heard of this company. I think it has over 1000 employees. PWnsivander the Great 19:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While the notability page for companies needs some cleanup itself, perhaps the Epic article can use some outside references. Has anyone found a reputable source to confirm the awards Epic displays on its website? A lot of the links seem to be broken, and some of the pages name the hospitals involved but don't mention Epic directly. Wikky Horse 06:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This confirms the awards from KLAS. --Afed 14:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel it would be appropriate for me to add content, since I work there. But suffice to say this page is accurate, and the awards listed on the web site are accurate.

Here are some pages that may be useful for a neutral party interested in improving the page:

http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=3621

http://www.wkowtv.com/News/index.php?ID=9913

http://ckp.kp.org/newsroom/national/archive/nat_030204_epic.html (A news release from Kaiser Permanente)

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/0524/120_print.html (The last paragraph of this Forbe's article is about Epic)

A search for Epic + Kaiser will turn up more gossip than you likely care to wade through. Also, the TheDailyWTF.com article is factually inaccurate, assuming it was meant to be about Epic.

--JFrancis

I don't know which fact in the DailyWTF article you are disputing, but it certainly doesn't contradict anything I ever saw in my 2+ years at Epic, or anything that one of my current co-workers saw in his 2+ years at Epic. If the article wasn't about Epic, then some OTHER company crams all of its server code into a ^ROUTINES global, and puts new hires through 3+ months of training. Every programmer there who cares at all about their future careers leaves as soon as the bloom falls off the rose. (The ones who remain longer are often tied down by their work-visa requirements.) Put simply, being a MUMPS programmer is a dead-end career, and being a VB6 programmer is only marginally better.

Uh, ^ROUTINE is used by anyone using Cache'... I think whoever made that comment is also the author of the DailyWTF article, and has some sort of personal vendetta. MUMPS is just as silly as COBOL but both are still used in a lot of heavy-duty software, for banks and such. VB6 is a modern and extremely popular language even if it sucks, I don't see how that's a dead end career. Google most popular programming languages... I bet VB is in the top 10. So yeah, basically a pretty poor article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.150.250.220 (talk) 02:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely notable, though. Epic is one of the largest employers in the state of Wisconsin, as measured by number of suckers--er, employees.

Logfromblammo (talk) 19:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

^ROUTINE is an Intersystems Caché convention. There are a great deal of companies that are not Epic and store their code in a ^ROUTINE global. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.180.188.67 (talk) 05:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't offer any info that can be cited, but Epic systems is very well know in the medical informatics business field. I have met people around the country who know of the company. Plus, I think a company with 2,500 employees is inherently notable. JeffreyN 19:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would say to keep this article. I'm familiar with the software and they definitely are an industry leader in Healhcare software. Just because they produce corporate software and not personal (where more people would have heard of them) shouldn't be held against them. Gopher backer 03:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I worked at Epic for 5 years, and although MUMPS might not be marketable, the GUI development skills are usable/marketable anywhere, and the large scale and high percentage of staff as programmers will give anyone great experience in software development. The only negative comments I have heard was from people who were let go because they couldn't "cut it". Michael.Urban (talk) 16:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Epic has locations in Den Bosch, Netherlands as well

Article says that all 3000 Epic employees are based in Madison. However, there are new offices in Den Bosch, Netherlands. SeaBonnette (talk) 13:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]