Talk:Gloria Swanson

birthdate

Websites seem to disagree about whether Swanson was born in 1897 or 1899. More have 1899 as the year of birth. Since her official website says 1899, I've fixed the birth date in the article. -- Minesweeper 00:46 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

She says 1899 in her autobiography, and it's the date on her tombstone [1]. People on here seem to believe the 1897 date simply because it says so on IMDB, but as a regular user of (and contributor to) that site for the past 4 years I can honestly say that it's far from perfect and certainly not as reliable as people seem to think. Crisso 14:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Could there be a mention of the problem with the dates on the article so there is no confusion as to why WP chose that (the right) date. Lincher 17:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Both her death certificate and her gravestone have 1899. Shouldn't that be proof enough to change the date to 1899? Hotwine8 15:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why it shouldn't. I see no reliable source cited that confirms 1897. Crisso 16:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

So it should say 1899, but it was changed somehow back to 1897. See death zertifikate and grave. Also inserted a remark to look first on this discussion page. 58.10.102.228 (talk) 07:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

In citing the year of Gloria's birth date on her death certificate, it is almost certain the NY Dept. of Health just asked her widower, William Dufty,

when she was born, and he just told them what she had told him. But there is absolutely no question that she was born in 1897. It was a very, very common practice for women at that time, and even past that time, to shave off a little time. Jayne Mansfield, who actually never lived to be old, was able to pull a fast one when issued a passport, which, she told friends, made her feel younger. The best example is "Valley of the Dolls" author Jacqueline Susann, who cornered Secretary of State Henry Kissinger at a party and coaxed him to change her birthday on her passport; he said there was nothing he could do. Still, the urn containing her ashes bears her birth year as 1921, as her widower Irving Mansfield said in his book, "the year she chose for herself." She was born in 1918. Accommodating his wife, Mansfield knew that even dead, Jackie would feel younger! It sounds crazy, but it's a diva thing. Of course now, it would be impossible for high-profile women to fudge about their age. (Men are not under any such pressure, lucky us!) Professor Von Pie 09:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

She was NOT born in 1897. All the records on ancestry.com list her as being born in 1899. She was born in 1899, because I found her on a 1913 passenger list from Ancestry.com along with her mother Addie Swanson, and they did live in Puerto Rico which this records states. A 14 year old girl has no reason to lie about her age. All of her passports state 1899 as her birth year also.

You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Gloria Swanson Name: Gloria Swanson Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1913 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Age: 14 Gender: Female Port of Departure: San Juan, Puerto Rico Ship Name: Philadelphia Search Ship Database: Search the Philadelphia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York, New York Line: 22 Microfilm Serial: T715 Stutzey (talk) 23:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)stutzey

All the above are fair arguments. In all probability the year of birth was 1899, but just b/c that year appears on her gravestone is not a guarantee, it should be borne in mind. Gravestones are not always reliable (vis-a-vis Bing Crosby and Audrey Meadows both of whose gravestones bore inaccurate years of birth (Crosby was actually born in 1903 and Meadows in 1922). Also Swanson's death certificate cited above, although it gives 1899 as year of birth also states that "approximate age" at death was 85, which would mean a year of birth of 1898! Anyway just wanted to vent a little. [email protected] (talk) 00:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors hey of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Category: Scientologist?

Just how dedicated was she as a scientologist? I walked into a scientology center in 1971, bought one book, and have been on their mailing list for the past 34 years. I ammmuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum most definitely not a scientologist, thought their standard procedure is to list people like me as believers. I'd like to see a little proof that she was truly dedicated to scientology. Please note that I have omitted my name stamp while discussing scientology; this is on purpose!hot stuff!!!!!!!!!!

Pioneer Vegetarian?

Gloria Swanson was very important in the history of vegetarianism and the organic food movement. This should be added to the article. I'll try to find some references... JesseW 20:11, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Bitchy vs. unpleasant

I read she could be a bitch; why use "unpleasant", it is too vague an adjective. 216.194.0.8 04:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't there a woman on Strictly Come Dancing called Gloria Swanson?

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Dune?

Many online articles claim that an early attempt to bring Frank Herbert's Dune to film by Alejandro Jodorowsky involved Gloria Swanson. (I figure that she would have been cast as the Bene Gesserit Mother.) Can anyone confirm this?

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Hays Code

(referring to the first paragraph of the article)

How could a 1928 film challenge the Hays Code if the code was (according to wikipedia) only introduced in 1930?

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