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I know nothing about text entry, but I did grow up in Ann Arbor. As I remember it, Jim changed his name to Iggy Stooge and used that name for at least a year before becoming Iggy Pop, so the entry is misleading on this point.

It's not a huge deal because I doubt anyone looks up the Stooges without already knowing them, but I probably wouldn't have put Heavy Metal under the genre list. I could see the influence but it isn't quite the same. They were pretty much straight forward punk rock.

Straight forward punk rock? This article needs A LOT of help.

I changed the name of the song from "1970" to "1969", because it's correct. also, I don't know the year, but Joan Jett also remade "Now I Wanna Be Your Dog."--Lorraine LeBeau 20:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted it back to "1970" because it looks like my edit was incorrect. --Lorraine LeBeau 20:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the page say Steven McKaye joined after the release of Fun House when he actually plays on it?

Good point. I fixed it. Colinclarksmith (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page is missing a lot of interesting information that would be valuable even to people who aren't already big fans of the band.

Why no mention of Dave Alexander's death and Iggy's "Zander's dead but I didn't like him anyway reaction"?

No mention of how Ron Asheton came up with the name Psychadelic Stooges in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.186.35.11 (talk) 17:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of "Iggy Stooge" on the first Stooges album; this was marketing ploi on the part of Elektra and Danny Fields. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.186.35.11 (talk) 17:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Alexander's death is mentioned in the article - it's at the end of the first paragraph of the "Post-breakup" chapter. As for the other additions, you're welcome to try and integrate them in to the article if you feel they should be in there. The Stooges wiki article was a big mess when I started trying to clean it up, streamline it and give it a more unified feel (a process which still has far to go as the page is still pretty messy), so I tend to err on the side of keeping things lean and relevant in the article. But feel free to consider your own additions - just try and keep the article's overall uniformity and cohesion in mind when doing so. Colinclarksmith (talk) 18:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Underage Groupies?

I've read that Iggy was involved wioth underage groupies. Nukleoptra 18:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All of the Stooges were involved with underage girls at some point. "Please Kill Me" talks of Iggy's relationship with a 14 year old girl named Betsy, as well as Iggy, Ron and Scott's involvement with Sable Starr when she was 13.

use of the name 'Iggy and the Stooges'

when did the use of the name 'Iggy and the Stooges' rather than just 'the stooges' begin? should this be noted. --Neon white 15:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair use rationale for Image:StoogesFunHouse.jpg

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addition to influences section

Since covers of Stooges songs are being listed in this section, the following should probably be included: Joan Jett "I Wanna Be Your Dog" (Up Your Alley) 1988 —Preceding unsigned comment added by ASGPhoenix (talk • contribs) 05:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but I question why my post pointing out the astounding similarities between "Penetration" and the World of Twist's debut single "The Storm" was deleted. Although there is no documented evidence (i.e. mentions in respected musical literature such as the NME or Rolling Stone or band member statements) merely reflects that this is the first time anyone has noticed the blatant theft of the said Stooges tune. The failure of the "deleter" to research the material prior to the said deletion is a perfect example of a fundamental flaw in this website. Anyone who listens to both songs back to back would realise that my point was astute, original and completely valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benanamatic (talk • contribs) 17:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I deleted this line in question and I can speak to my reasons why. I don't doubt the validity of your observation for a second, so you needn't worry about that! Whether or not your observation was valid, the line was removed for a few reasons - most importantly, it qualifies as original research in its lacking a citation, and Wikipedia explicitly rejects all original research per Wikipedia:No_original_research. A secondary consideration is the issue of notability, and while World of Twist apparently warrant their own Wikipedia article, it is doubtful that their song is relevant to the Stooges article based on its own merit. I'll admit that the "Influence" section of the Stooges article is currently a mess and has a lot of expendable and non-noteworthy information in it, and, as a Trivia Section, its general format is discouraged in Wikipedia articles per Wikipedia:Trivia_sections - so I'd really like to get to work on reworking and/or eliminating that section altogether at some point.

Anyhow, all of this is to say that your addition was NOT deleted because it was believed to be invalid; rather, it was removed because 1.) it qualified as original research, 2.) was not considered noteworthy, and 3.) was included in a section that is itself problematic and slated for reworking and/or deletion. Best, Colinclarksmith (talk) 19:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "heavy metal" troll

Someone please assist me, on behalf of Wikiproject Punk Music, in continually reverting the troll who has been periodically recontextualizing The Stooges (the MC5 too) as a heavy metal band. Tim010987 (talk) 23:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's no more (or less) inaccurate than referring to them as a punk band.--Vonbontee (talk) 09:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only in your dreams, Vonbontee. Stick to them to because they're all you have going. Theburning25 (talk) 01:14, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the above comments are untrue. The stooges are most certainly a punk band, since they play punk rock and Iggy pop used to dress in punk-type clothes and cut himself. They are definitely not metal, since they'd be "Iggy pop and the deathangels" then.

"Death of Ron Asheton" addition

Hello all. I went ahead and added a new sub-section in the 'History' section of this article on Ron Asheton's death - it just didn't seem appropriate to add to the "Live again" section, and it is clearly a new chapter in the band's history (if not the final chapter). I hope everyone agrees and approves. Colinclarksmith (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Live Again" and "Reissues" sections merged with "Reunion"

I finally underwent the much-needed streamlining task regarding the information surrounding the band's 2003 reformation in the article. All of the "security-guards-were-pissed-but-the-fans-loved-it" bits and unnecessary info was removed, and information condensed. Ron Asheton's death, in my opinion, closes this chapter of the band's history and allows for a definitive summary of the years from 2003-2009, which I've attempted to construct. Hopefully everyone is with me on this. Colinclarksmith (talk) 16:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Genres, psychedelic rock?

As far as I know, the band shouldn't have psychedelic rock as a genre. If someone can prove me wrong, well, do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.99.31 (talk) 19:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]