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Please see WP:ANI#Chris troutman (permalink). Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:39, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- @The ed17: In light of the comments made there, I accept admonishment. It would seem it is I that need to reconsider involvement in Wikipedia. Chris Troutman (talk) 12:24, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- You do good work around here and I consider you an important voice. Yes, you were a jerk, but you're still a net positive to the project by a long stretch. I think it would be a good thing if you apologized to some of the folks you were a jerk to (like Tony), but I don't think anybody thinks that Wikipedia is better off without Chris troutman. A Traintalk 15:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- @A Train: I appreciate your attempt at kindness, but the fact that you think I am a jerk and that I should apologize is evidence of a serious disconnect. That you
"don't think anybody thinks that Wikipedia is better off without Chris troutman"
is naive. Again, it means a lot that you advocated for me in that thread but a near-unanimous 23-editor denunciation of my conduct is a problem for me. Contributing to Wikipedia only makes sense if you get something out of it and I'm finding my efforts to make Wikipedia better cause more friction than desired. Finally, my involvement fails people like you and others who want to see better of me. I'd rather pare back my involvement than make my very few supporters regret ever sticking up for me. I have editing goals on Wikipedia and those don't include getting into arguments with editors whom I hold in contempt. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- @A Train: I appreciate your attempt at kindness, but the fact that you think I am a jerk and that I should apologize is evidence of a serious disconnect. That you
- My two cents -- having known you in person, I've been surprised at some of the nasty things you've said on Wikipedia. I'm not sure why you're like this here when I never saw it from you in person (where at most there was some occasional prickliness). I can't imagine you'd treat other editors like this in real life, so perhaps you should bring your RL mindset online as well. Hoping you can take this all to heart and move forward in a constructive manner. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Calliopejen1: I'm really at a loss for words. I've been rolling this over in my mind for the last couple days and I'm still hurt that you of all people would show up to deliver this message. I'll assume you made your comments trying to be constructive, but I find them anything but. Please do not offer your two cents to me ever again. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:45, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- You do good work around here and I consider you an important voice. Yes, you were a jerk, but you're still a net positive to the project by a long stretch. I think it would be a good thing if you apologized to some of the folks you were a jerk to (like Tony), but I don't think anybody thinks that Wikipedia is better off without Chris troutman. A Traintalk 15:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Thanks. You could have ignored my overlong complaint ("rant" as you put it), but you didn't. I appreciate that, especially since you may have been exasperated by people questioning your good-faith efforts, especially given your extensive experience. That was very nice of you, I appreciate it. ZeroXero (talk) 21:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC) |
Administrators' newsletter – November 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2017).
Administrator changes
Longhair • Megalibrarygirl • TonyBallioni • Vanamonde93
Allen3 • Eluchil404 • Arthur Rubin • Bencherlite
Technical news
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team is creating an "Interaction Timeline" tool that intends to assist administrators in resolving user conduct disputes. Feedback on the concept may be posted on the talk page.
- A new function is now available to edit filter managers that will make it easier to look for multiple strings containing spoofed text.
Arbitration
- Eligible editors will be invited to submit candidate statements for the 2017 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 12 until November 21. Voting will begin on November 27 and last until December 10.
- Following a request for comment, Ritchie333, Yunshui and Ymblanter will serve as the Electoral Commission for the 2017 ArbCom Elections.
Obituaries
- The Wikipedia community has recently learned that Allen3 (William Allen Peckham) passed away on December 30, 2016, the same day as JohnCD. Allen began editing in 2005 and became an administrator that same year.
This Month in Education: October 2017
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WikiCup 2017 November newsletter: Final results
The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:
- First Place -
Adityavagarwal (submissions) - Second Place -
Vanamonde (submissions) - Third Place -
Cas Liber (submissions)
In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:
- Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
- Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
- Featured List –
Bloom6132 (submissions) and 
1989 (submissions) both produced 2 FLs in R2 - Featured Pictures –
SounderBruce (submissions) improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year. - Featured Topic –
MPJ-DK (submissions) has the only FT of the Cup in R3. - Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
- Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
- In The News – MBlaze Lightning (submissions) had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
- Good Article Review – Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (submissions) completed 31 GARs in R1.
Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.
Regarding the prize vouchers - @Adityavagarwal, Vanamonde93, Casliber, Bloom6132, 1989, and SounderBruce: please send Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) an email from the email address to which you would like your Amazon voucher sent. Please include your preference of global Amazon marketplace as well. We hope to have the electronic gift cards processed and sent within a week.
We will open up a discussion for comments on process and scoring in a few days. The 2018 WikiCup is just around the corner! Many thanks from all the judges. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), and Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Request for edit help
Hello Chris Troutman - I'm an employee of the International Institute of Strategic Studies. We are searching for editors to review our proposed changes to the IISS page, which address the fact the page is insubstantial and contains slight inaccuracies. I see you have edited the page of another foreign policy think tank in recent months (Chatham House) - would you be interested in looking over our page? Thanks for taking the time to read my message. Craig. BurnettIISS (talk) 16:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Regrets
I am sorry that I couldn't make it to the edit-a-thon. I had an appointment downtown. If you hear of any future events like this, please let me know. More lead time will allow me to adjust my schedule. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 19:11, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Turkey
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Turkey. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Request other users to weigh in at Talk:Abortion
Hi, would you be willing to weigh-in at a discussion that I am pursuing over at talk:Abortion? Note that I have been called "Berkeley" because of my other IP address. Thanks, -208.71.156.130 (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- This is my other IP address. -208.76.28.70 (talk) 23:48, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, but no. I don't mind helping out with a dead link. I absolutely will not get into a discussion on the content of the article about abortion. Some editors love wading into that battle with righteous indignation; I don't. I know next to nothing about the subject and I am generally curtailing my meta-editing (the talk pages, RfC's, and other back-office stuff) after my recent admonishment. You couldn't pay me enough to get into that mess. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Request on 18:08:47, 15 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Masha.p
Hello Chris,
My Wikipedia article on Digital Rocks Physics got rejected about a month ago citing notability and verifiability of references. Thanks for your email, and the time spent to review and reach out, and I apologize for a slight delay. I added more references, including a textbook. Most of the references are review articles in notable scientific journals, and in themselves have 200+ references within (all verifiable, they have DOIs pointing to the scientific journals in question). This is a research field that is 30+ years old. I would think this is enough to prove the topic is worth having a Wiki entry, and if it is not, that I am missing something fundamental and need more help. Many thanks for your time!
Masha.p (talk) 18:08, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Masha.p: Sorry, but I've since quit reviewing drafts. I can see you added a good number of academic drafts and it might be a good idea to resubmit your draft. I would caution you to remove all those external links in the various sections per WP:ELNO. We allow external links in only a few cases; Wikipedia is not meant to be a link farm to other websites. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:21, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
WikiCup 2018
So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
OUTCOMES
Please continue the conversation at OUTCOMES. JMWt (talk) 13:05, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- @JMWt: No. It's not worth it any longer. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Continent
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Continent. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
If it makes you feel any better, I think you are right, as policy says, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." At the very worst case, it takes two minutes to strip down a notable but promotional topic to a one-sentence stub and leave a note saying so on the talk page. I was contemplating closing that AfD as "Speedy keep" but I think just stating my view in it will do for now. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:34, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- I also agree with you about this book, and actually added references to three reviews to the article. But I deeply disagree with the extreme combativeness that you are exhibiting on DGG's talk page. You are out of line there. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:13, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Ned Kelly
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Deletion
I'd like to ask why you deleted sections from WEMB.