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::I thought it was strange that I couldn't find any factual evidence about the person or what information I found simply did not match with what was on the article. The chief reason I used PROD was it seemed like it wouldn't be controversial to delete it as the notification about lacking sources had been present since 2009 and I myself was unable to find any verifiable sources, and the article had been more or less untouched for awhile. I am unlikely to use PROD in the future, I understand your concerns. <b>[[User:BrocadeRiverPoems|<span style="font-family:vivaldi; color:Purple;">Brocade River Poems</span>]]</b> 22:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
::I thought it was strange that I couldn't find any factual evidence about the person or what information I found simply did not match with what was on the article. The chief reason I used PROD was it seemed like it wouldn't be controversial to delete it as the notification about lacking sources had been present since 2009 and I myself was unable to find any verifiable sources, and the article had been more or less untouched for awhile. I am unlikely to use PROD in the future, I understand your concerns. <b>[[User:BrocadeRiverPoems|<span style="font-family:vivaldi; color:Purple;">Brocade River Poems</span>]]</b> 22:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
:Also, regarding the portrait by [[Franz Xaver Winterhalter]], that appears to be an Hr.Jadwiga Branicka z Potockich. Siostra Hr. Pelagii Potockiej. Portret autorstwa Franca Xawera Winterhaltera(1805-1873) per [https://slowopolskie.online/hrabianka-pelagia-potocka-1831-1911-szosta-wsrod-pochowanych-w-krypcie-kosciola-sw-doroty-w-slawucie/ this] and [https://arthive.com/franzxaverwinterhalter/works/542166~Jadwiga_of_Potocki_Countess_of_Branicka this]. It also aligns with [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Franz_Xaver_Winterhalter_and_the_Courts/SK9xQgAACAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Jadwiga this] source that says he painted Jadwiga Branicka née Potocka. <b>[[User:BrocadeRiverPoems|<span style="font-family:vivaldi; color:Purple;">Brocade River Poems</span>]]</b> 22:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
:Also, regarding the portrait by [[Franz Xaver Winterhalter]], that appears to be an Hr.Jadwiga Branicka z Potockich. Siostra Hr. Pelagii Potockiej. Portret autorstwa Franca Xawera Winterhaltera(1805-1873) per [https://slowopolskie.online/hrabianka-pelagia-potocka-1831-1911-szosta-wsrod-pochowanych-w-krypcie-kosciola-sw-doroty-w-slawucie/ this] and [https://arthive.com/franzxaverwinterhalter/works/542166~Jadwiga_of_Potocki_Countess_of_Branicka this]. It also aligns with [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Franz_Xaver_Winterhalter_and_the_Courts/SK9xQgAACAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Jadwiga this] source that says he painted Jadwiga Branicka née Potocka. <b>[[User:BrocadeRiverPoems|<span style="font-family:vivaldi; color:Purple;">Brocade River Poems</span>]]</b> 22:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)


==Utterly, uttlerly horrid==

Yes, that's right. You and all your little wiki mates are UTTERLY HORRID. Do NOT remove this message. [[User:Delaney Wolf|Delaney Wolf]] ([[User talk:Delaney Wolf|talk]]) 16:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you! Brocade River Poems 06:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, welcome! I see you already found WP:WikiProject China—it's always wonderful to see a new editor in this space. Cheers! Remsense 20:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Brocade River Poems 20:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was browsing cat:allprod and saw this. It’s rare that I approve of a PROD as strongly as this one (in fact I think the procedure should be banned for abuse as CSD and en bloc AfD suffice), but this page is useless.

In fact, it looks more like a quasi-hoax to me due to the multiple factual inconsistencies. Obviously there have been people that name (like the 19th century portrait sitter depicted there; by the way, Franz Xaver Winterhalter, the artist, died in 1867 IIRC 1873), but the article is pure fiction. Nice work spotting it.

Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 22:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But also, as you’re a relatively new editor, please please please be circumspect about using PROD. It’s not a good way to deal with many of the pages that end up there and we have too many experienced editors already who like to bend the rules. Again, thank you. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 22:25, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was strange that I couldn't find any factual evidence about the person or what information I found simply did not match with what was on the article. The chief reason I used PROD was it seemed like it wouldn't be controversial to delete it as the notification about lacking sources had been present since 2009 and I myself was unable to find any verifiable sources, and the article had been more or less untouched for awhile. I am unlikely to use PROD in the future, I understand your concerns. Brocade River Poems 22:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, regarding the portrait by Franz Xaver Winterhalter, that appears to be an Hr.Jadwiga Branicka z Potockich. Siostra Hr. Pelagii Potockiej. Portret autorstwa Franca Xawera Winterhaltera(1805-1873) per this and this. It also aligns with this source that says he painted Jadwiga Branicka née Potocka. Brocade River Poems 22:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Utterly, uttlerly horrid

Yes, that's right. You and all your little wiki mates are UTTERLY HORRID. Do NOT remove this message. Delaney Wolf (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]