User talk:Ar2332

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Wikiproject Judaism

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A page you started (Birds Mosaic (Caesarea)) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Birds Mosaic (Caesarea), Ar2332!

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(My reply: Thanks! All I did was translate the Hebrew page.)

Questions for you on "Hasmonean royal winter palaces"

"This is the most important archaeological site to have survived from that period in Jewish history."

I assume this means from the period of King Herod (needs to be clear on this).
The identification of this site as "most important archeological site" has no context. This should either be sourced or reworded -- is it the biggest/most expansive area found to date? Etc. Needs clarification.

"After excavation of the palace, it was covered over." Covered over with what? A tarp? A museum? Sand? --Agamemnus (talk) 18:16, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I edited accordingly. As for the unsourced claim of importance, it was added by user User:Gilabrand - ask them for a source. Ar2332 (talk) 22:35, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merger of two articles treating on the exact same place

@Ar2332: Actually, the merger that we requested for Beit Zakariah and Az-Zakariyya is a different merger than the one that you thought about. We are not talking about the old merger, which indeed are two different articles. If you browse further down this Talk-Page on Az-Zakariyya you'll see that we are referring to a different merger, one that involves two articles about the exact same place.Davidbena (talk) 00:21, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Hannopil

Hi, I'm Boleyn. Ar2332, thanks for creating Hannopil!

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Esau

I reverted a recent edit of yours to Esau:

Since Esau's descendants (the nation of Edom) were in rabbinic literature identified with Rome, this tradition may reflect the idea that the intellectual accomplishments (the "head") of Greece and Rome could be incorporated into Judaism, but not their allegedly immoral and promiscuous cultures (the "body").

because it looks to me like WP: Original research. That's because it does not cite any sources. I am in no position to question the accuracy of your statement, but it does require citation of a WP:Reliable source.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

July 2018

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Thanks, I'll try to do that next time. Ar2332 (talk) 06:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Toulouse railway network moved to draftspace

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Copied text at Shimon bar Yochai

Hi, It is permitted to copy text from public domain sources like the Jewish Encyclopedia, but you must label it with that source. You can't just copy text and sources from an intermediate source without identifying the intermediate source. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Please adhere to this principle, as readers need to be able to trace the text in our article back to a reliable source that confirms it. Zero^talk 12:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just added the JewishEncyclopedia template at the bottom, I assumed it was already there, sorry. Ar2332 (talk) 12:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Dikdukei Soferim

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Your edits on "Missing years (Jewish calendar)"

Ar2332, I left you a message on the Talk-Page of Missing years (Jewish calendar), but because I wasn't sure that you had seen it, I decided to write you here. You may wish to see the comment here. Shalom.Davidbena (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the new section in the article "Jubilee (biblical)"

Special:Contributions/Ar2332, I have just now added a new section in the article Jubilee (biblical), which you can see under the sub-section: "The Jubilee in Jewish tradition" (see here). If you could please go over it and make any corrections, improvements, etc., as you may see necessary or fitting, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, my friend.Davidbena (talk) 03:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Elisha ben Abuyah

I don't think you understand the problem. The article quotes from the English-language Jewish Encyclopedia. There is no reason on earth to change it, unless you found that it was misquoted. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 11:48, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Jewish Encyclopedia (JE) is one source, but Sefaria's translation (published elsewhere as Steinsaltz/Koren) is another source. I don't either one has a presumption of being more accurate than the other (and many other translations exist which translate similar to Sefaria not JE, lending credence to Sefaria's translation). And a glance at the original Hebrew, or even a comparison of the JE translation to the Sefaria translation, makes clear that JE is not a translation but a paraphrase. I'm sure JE had its reasons to paraphrase (for example, to save paper), but I don't see how they apply in the context of Wikipedia. If you prefer JE's phrase "destroyed the plants" to "chopped down the saplings", I can accept that. But the ellipses are necessary for it to be an accurate translation. Ar2332 (talk) 12:09, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm specifically referring to the paragraph in the section titled "The Four Who Entered The Paredes" that starts with "Ginzberg comments that". Beginning in the second sentence of that paragraph, where it says the Jerusalem Talmud "makes no mention", every word from "makes no mention" through the end of the paragraph is a quote from the Jewish Encyclopedia article about Elisha. There is no reason why you should change it, even if you think Ginsberg was wrong or that his translation stinks. We don't change quotations of other people's words. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 12:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Copying licensed material requires attribution

In the future, please add attribution when copying from public domain source. I have done so for the above article, using the Template:Jewish Encyclopedia. Please do this in the future so that our readers will be aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself, and that it's okay to copy verbatim. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:23, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you for starting the article "Kfar Aziz"

Special:Contributions/Ar2332, I wanted to thank you, personally, for starting the article, Kfar Aziz.Davidbena (talk) 03:44, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Using primary sources

Hi, please see WP:PRIMARY. Inscriptions, commentaries etc are often regarded as primary sources. What you added doesn't say anything about Himyar , Saba' or their God plus it doesn't provide analogy of the term. See WP:OR and WP:SYNTH also per WP:BRD you should go to the discussion page after getting reverted and not revert again, thanks--SharabSalam (talk) 10:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel bar Isaac moved to draftspace

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Kareth

My "short description", which you reverted as inaccurate, is the first sentence in the first section (Kareth#Hebrew Bible) of the article. Editor2020 (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That sentence is bringing various speculations as to the meaning - "may mean killing or excluding from the people" - not an agreed-upon meaning. Also, "killing" is a bad word because one could understand it to mean a death penalty, when the reference instead says "premature death", presumably referring to a predicted Divinely inflicted punishment. For these reasons it is inaccurate, and thus it's better to go with the first sentence of the entire article, which is a straightforward and uncontroversial translation of the word. Ar2332 (talk) 17:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep-On Fulfilling Your Dream

Your dream brought you here, and that is very good! Your work here is greatly needed and helpful to us all! Yeshar koach!Davidbena (talk) 11:22, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :) Actually the dream was very recent, long after I started editing frequently. It was because editing was already on my mind :) Ar2332 (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Despite your dream, I assure you that Wikipedia was up and running online way back in 2005. If you don't believe, you can always see my contribs from back then. About this, the Gemara says: אין חלום ללא דברים בטלים. Keep up the good work. I found you because of your work in creating the article Moisè_Tedeschi which is somebody that I thought that nobody other than myself had ever heard of. --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 19:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I was introduced to Hoil Moshe through alhatorah.org. Ar2332 (talk) 19:47, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Simeon ben Jehozadak moved to draftspace

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mata Mehasya

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Mata Mehasya for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source, probably infringing copyright.

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Ways to improve Mata Mehasya

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A brownie for you!

Thanks for editing Adda bar Ahavah! Poydoo (talk) 13:36, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spellings

Hi, User:Ar2332. I wanted to ask you why, in your opinion, is it so important for you to change the spellings in articles such as in this edit here, and in this edit here? I am sure that you are aware that today, in most scholarly articles, and, especially, in encyclopedias, they make use of this new spelling system where Semitic names and words are transliterated with diacritical points. It was developed by the Deutsche Morgenländische Gesellschaft (German Oriental Society), and its use is vital in Semitic languages where sounds are different to those in English. For example, "ch" in "Bach" is different than "ch" in "chair." Neither sound is the same sound as the lightly aspirated ḥet (ח‎) phoneme in Hebrew. In this system of transliteration it is more precise; where they make use of š for ש, and ḥ for ח, and ṭ for ט, and ṣ for צ, and which same letters have their equivalents in other Semitic languages. There is nothing wrong with using the "ḥ" in some cases here on Wikipedia, just as we find its use in the Soncino edition of the Hebrew-English edition of the Babylonian Talmud, translated by Dr. H. Freedman under the editorship of Dr. I. Epstein, and just as it is used extensively in Encyclopaedia Judaica. Just to show you a few examples, you may wish to see Tractate Shabbath (in the Soncino edition), where "R. Ḥisda" is written with "Ḥ" (100b), just as we find there "Naḥman" (not "Nachman"), and R. Ḥiyya (98a) and R. Joḥanan (100a), and R. Aḥa (instead of R. "Acha"), as well as many, many more names spelt in this way. It would be too time-consuming to show you how the Encyclopaedia Judaica (published by Keter Publishing House, Jerusalem 1971) also makes use of this spelling system (e.g. "Minḥat kena'ot"), on p. 146 in vol. 2, under the entry Abraham ben Isaac of Montpellier, or ḥaṭṭaʾt, the transliteration of the Hebrew word חטאת (= "sin-offering") (see p. 766 in vol. 2, s.v. Altar). Hag sameah!Davidbena (talk) 12:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the pointed version is better at avoiding ambiguity. However, I think that the non-pointed version is better in some ways: 1) more familiar and more easily pronounced by readers, 2) part of the standard keyboard and thus available for users to type and search 3) already used in article titles 4) I think non-pointed is used in most works of the computer age, both web pages and printed books (both religious-oriented books and IIRC most academic-oriented books, though this last bit requires more checking). So those were my reasons. However, as I think about it more, I think we need to bring this up for a discussion in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism (if it hasn't been discussed already) and make the result of the discussion (whatever it is) visible in the manual of style for future reference. In the meantime, I will try to stop making edits that change pointed to non-pointed. Ar2332 (talk) 16:59, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are right when it comes to article titles, but that wasn't my argument. We can leave the regular spellings in the titles, but in the body of article where we do find its transliteration by making use of the academic spelling system, now used in most peer-group academic journals whenever referring to transliterated Hebrew or Arabic words, it really shouldn't bother anybody. In fact, in those journals, it is more common to see its use than not. Yes, perhaps we can bring it up in discussions in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism and make the result of the discussion visible in the manual of style. For your information, it is already mentioned in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Hebrew), although since this system of transliteration is used extensively in a technical sense, there is room in my opinion for its expansion in that general overview and guideline.Davidbena (talk) 17:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Rabin (amora).

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The lede needs to be clear about what made him notable, and not just another rabbi.

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I edited the page (with a direct translation from the existing Hebrew page) to make this a bit clearer. Ar2332 (talk) 16:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Eliyahu Menachem of London

You started this, but you didn't add any references. And please be sure to add a note giving the heWP article you (probably) translated it from . DGG ( talk ) 21:00, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Shofar

Your major addition to Shofar contains much information that is already mentioned in the Different customs section of that article. Debresser (talk) 00:46, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You mean Shofar blowing. The material was copied from Shofar and deleted there. Yes I plan to deduplicate when I next have a chance to edit. Ar2332 (talk) 07:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Report moved

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Mar son of Ravina moved to draftspace

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New page creations

Hi I’m just reviewing some new pages you’ve recently created or recreated from redirects on Jewish topics. I’ve tagged a couple because they don’t have any sources at all. If they don’t get sources within a reasonable time they’ll be deleted or redirected eventually. There’s a couple of others that have a single reference to an old Encyclopedia- that’s ok to start off but really they need more references where these can be found. All the best Mccapra (talk) 08:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, thanks. I just added the encyclopedia reference for Makhshirin. I will look for references for Keritot. For the others, the encyclopedia is honestly a very good source for this topic (a topic which changes very little with time), but hopefully I can find additional sources. Ar2332 (talk) 18:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

April 2020

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Rav Rabbah

Did you see this edit? According to the source you provided, there were multiple geonim named Rav Rabbah. It would probably be better to add content about them to Geonim. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 05:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't, sorry. Maybe the best approach is to redirect Rav Rabbah to Geonim? Ar2332 (talk) 05:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the status quo (with hatnote) is the best solution, at least for as long as we don't actually have a mention of the Rabonim Rabbah at Geonim, but at this point another editor has started a discussion at RfD so we should go discuss it there. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 22:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Superstition in Judaism?

Hi Ar2332, is there anything you can please do to clean up all the blatant inaccuracies in this abomination: Superstition in Judaism. Thanks so much, IZAK (talk) 23:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I haven't seen this article before, I'll try to fix it up. BTW are there any other articles you think need attention? Ar2332 (talk) 17:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I think I'm done. That was crazy, the sheer quantity of claims with irrelevant sources given as references. Ar2332 (talk) 19:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- @Ar2332: Thanks. Don't give up so easily, it is clearly in violation of lots of WP:NOT, and can easily be re-written without all the sheer nonsense. IZAK (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Great job on all your amazing work! IZAK (talk) 02:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@IZAK: It was terrible before and now it is atrocious. I could put "citation needed" or "fails verification" on most sentences. How on earth can this anecdote be called a reliable source? Why not get a proper source, such as Joshua Trachtenberg's highly cited book "Jewish Magic and Superstition" and write a proper article? Zero^talk 05:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Zero0000: Not sure what the problem is. I prefer quotations from the Talmud and from classical Judaism. By the way, "magic" and "superstition" have nothing to do with each other IMHO. IZAK (talk) 18:33, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@IZAK: Articles should be based on reliable secondary sources, not on quotations from primary sources. As for magic versus superstition, neither have precise definitions but they can't be properly separated. Some restrict "magic" to invocation of supernatural beings (angels, demons, etc), but belief in the power of such invocations is superstition. Others expand the meaning of "magic" to include things like amulets, but again belief in the power of amulets is a common superstition. One of the problems with the article is over-emphasis on injunctions against superstition at the expense of a discussion of superstitious beliefs among the general Jewish population. Zero^talk 03:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heresy in Orthodox Judaism

Hi Ar2332, thanks you for all your great help. Would you care to improve the Heresy in Orthodox Judaism article, it needs fixing up. Please bear in mind that we already have an article named Heresy in Judaism, and also to include the subjects included in Category:Heresy in Judaism and Category:Heresy in Orthodox Judaism. Thank you so much! IZAK (talk) 21:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Hi again Ar2332, well look what someone did, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heresy in Orthodox Judaism. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 23:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Exodus

Hi again, any chance you would want to take on The Exodus article by fixing it up from a Jewish scholarly perspective, especially correcting the sheer nonsense in The Exodus#Origins and historicity section? Thanks again, IZAK (talk) 01:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put it on my todo list, but this is a bigger task and may have to wait. Ar2332 (talk) 20:29, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hasid

Hi, here's another one that needs fixing up: Hasid. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 23:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No, I can't read about half the words, sorry. Ar2332 (talk) 03:45, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for trying. IZAK (talk) 22:37, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Are you still working on this article? Because I noticed that in this edit you removed material that I think should stay. For example, female masturbation is mentioned not just by a "few" rabbis, but by many, and not just "frowned upon" but also explicitly forbidden. I completely miss the part where it say that homosexual relations are the same. And the worst thing, from an encyclopedical point of view, is the lack of sources, which makes all the statements prone to deletion. Talk about levatole. Debresser (talk) 11:17, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am done working on that section of the article. My intention was to put as much as possible of the content on the "main" article, while leaving a summary here. In the process of doing that I deleted most of the sources, but in response to your comment, I just added some sources back to support the text that remains. As for lesbianism, I am not an expert on the subject, so I tried to be conservative and leave the claims that were already in the text, specifically that it is frowned upon but not forbidden. If you have more knowledge on the subject, please edit accordingly, both on this article and on the linked main page. Ar2332 (talk) 18:23, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding some sources. Yes, I'll change the sentence about female masturbation. IMHO the new text is not in accordance with the previous text. Debresser (talk) 22:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are doing good work on these articles. Thanks. Debresser (talk) 14:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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List of rabbinical schools

Hi Ar2332 - it's done :) please review... Fintor (talk) 19:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, very thorough - definitely a lot of institutions that I have never heard of or would have thought to mention, and a sensible categorization. Thank you! Ar2332 (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks - as you can see I have not had much time to edit recently, but this is a quick thing :) Ar2332 (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I just saw this. The debate was archived shortly after you sent your message. Where can I reply? Ar2332 (talk) 07:38, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, I made a note. I'll try to remember this for next time but don't promise. It's an easy rule to forget - copying between pages does not "feel" different than moving within a page. Ar2332 (talk) 12:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. I've had to learn a lot in order to do it. By the way, sorry I forgot to label my last edit which deleted a lot of text, the text was redundant. Ar2332 (talk) 07:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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