Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Post-literate society

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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 01:54, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Post-literate society

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This is a concept coined by Chris Hedges in one of his books. It's not a thing. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 13:40, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment McLuhan was writing about it in 1962 (the article says so, and I've just checked – he did) when Hedges was only six years old. And if you mean Hedges' Empire of Illusion, someone here was trying to get this article deleted as a neologism before that had even been published: WP:Articles for deletion/Postliterate society. I think a revamped nomination would be in order. And, by the way, we do have articles about concepts, see Category:Concepts and I'm not sure any of them are "things". Thincat (talk) 21:29, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If the term was mentioned in The Gutenberg Galaxy and is important to that work, then it can be covered in the The Gutenberg Galaxy article. Currently, that article makes no mention of 'Post-literate society', which raises questions as to the importance of the concept to that work. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 21:43, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's not mentioned on page 69 anyway so if you follow McLuhan you'll maybe think that's all that matters.[1]

Keep. There is coverage of this concept outside of Hedges' books. Palladium Magazine has an article about it titled "America’s New Post-Literate Epistemology" here; the Prindle Post has an article titled "What Does a Post-Literate World Look Like?" here; author Michael Ridley explores the concept in one of his books, as covered by the American Library Association here; the Schools Catalogue Information Service has an article titled "Libraries for a post-literate society" here; and there are a number of op-eds concerning the topic (examples here; here; and here). --Kbabej (talk) 14:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Thank you, Kbabej, for going to all this trouble. The nomination didn't seem to me to be raising issues of notability so I hadn't tried to counter such suggestions. I wondered if the nominator was making some kind of abstruse joke based on the idea that a post-literate culture has now swamped Wikipedia. Perversely, the issue raised seems to be that the topic is not original research because Hedges wrote about it earlier. AFD has degenerated into such a sorry state. People come making arbitrary remarks in the expectation that others will turn up and vote delete. Thincat (talk) 09:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.